From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Aug  3 07:40:42 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] iCloud pricing
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/faster-forward/post/apple-icloud-pricing-revealed-in-developer-beta/2011/08/02/gIQAfLgSpI_blog.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

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From coachrobbo at mac.com  Wed Aug  3 17:49:40 2011
From: coachrobbo at mac.com (Simon Robinson)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:49:40 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Apple and schools
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We have a test device running iOS5 beta release and it has improved proxy support by getting all apps to pop up asking for credentials (rather than just timing out) on launch.
Unfortunately you have to enter the credentials every time you launch the app. Painful.
So it's not perfect but may be a step in the right direction.

Simon

On 30/07/2011, at 10:56 AM, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> When you get it all working I'll buy you lunch at the Muffo.
> The article was a bit technical for me! :)
> Still get the impression it only manages stuff like restrictions and accounts.
> What I think we really need is Deploy Studio for iPad!?
> 
> --- On Sat, 30/7/11, Warren McCullough <warren at wazmac.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Warren McCullough <warren at wazmac.com>
> Subject: Re: [Maced] Apple and schools
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Received: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 10:37 AM
> 
> Like Brett, I haven't spent much time on this yet, but this is worth a read to understand how Lion server may be able to manage MacOSX and iOS on multiple devices?.
> 
> http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=lion-server-review
> 
> (Scroll down to the section 'One Profile to Rule them All')
> 
> Warren
> 
> 
> 
> On 30/07/2011, at 10:18 AM, BrettMoller wrote:
> 
>> Have you looked into the lion server abilities and profile manager?  To be honest I have just started playing with it and don't know much, but there maybe things there that may solve some of your issues.
>> 
>> Brett
>> 
>> On 30/07/2011, at 9:23 AM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> Most of us on this list I think would agree that Apple make the best tools for empowering students. Their intuitive server software allows schools to create and and easily manage awesome Home Directory and Wiki environments. Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear.
>>> 
>>> Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics.
>>> To clarify:
>>> iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful.
>>> When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small groups to use and a battery that would last out the school day.
>>> That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!)
>>> Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it.
>>> But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one.
>>> And multiple user iTune account support would be nice.
>>> Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility.
>>> Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working.
>>> I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm wrong and let me know how to solve the problems.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Aug  3 20:03:34 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 03:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] Apple and schools
In-Reply-To: <987AE6D2-07EB-46C8-A5B7-BFD8D80E531D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1312365814.85051.YahooMailClassic@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Simon - keep us posted.

--- On Wed, 3/8/11, Simon Robinson <coachrobbo at mac.com> wrote:

From: Simon Robinson <coachrobbo at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Maced] Apple and schools
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Received: Wednesday, 3 August, 2011, 5:49 PM

We have a test device running iOS5 beta release and it has improved proxy support by getting all apps to pop up asking for credentials (rather than just timing out) on launch.Unfortunately you have to enter the credentials every time you launch the app. Painful.So it's not perfect but may be a step in the right direction.
Simon
On 30/07/2011, at 10:56 AM, Dave Hounsell wrote:
When you get it all working I'll buy you lunch at the Muffo.The article was a bit technical for me! :)Still get the impression it only manages stuff like restrictions and accounts.What I think we really need is Deploy Studio for iPad!?

--- On Sat, 30/7/11, Warren McCullough <warren at wazmac.com> wrote:

From: Warren McCullough <warren at wazmac.com>
Subject: Re: [Maced] Apple and schools
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Received: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 10:37 AM

Like Brett, I haven't spent much time on this yet, but this is worth a read to understand how Lion server may be able to manage MacOSX and iOS on multiple
 devices?.
http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=lion-server-review
(Scroll down to the section 'One Profile to Rule them All')
Warren


On 30/07/2011, at 10:18 AM, BrettMoller wrote:
Have you looked into the lion server abilities and profile manager? ?To be honest I have just started playing with it and don't know much, but there maybe things there that may solve some of your issues.
Brett
On 30/07/2011, at 9:23 AM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Most of us on this list I think would agree that Apple make the best tools for empowering students. Their intuitive server software allows schools to create and and easily manage awesome Home Directory and Wiki environments. Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear.
Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics.To clarify:iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful.When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small
 groups to use and a battery
 that would last out the school day.That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!)Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it.But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one.And multiple user iTune account support would be nice.Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility.Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working.I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm
 wrong and let me know how to solve the problems.
Cheers
Dave
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From kymerial at optusnet.com.au  Thu Aug  4 14:07:03 2011
From: kymerial at optusnet.com.au (Richard Evans)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 14:07:03 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Finally
Message-ID: <E209F94A-146F-47C5-9B5D-2A6312E7D23C@optusnet.com.au>

Hi All,
Just like to recount how our IWB projector was fixed.
The incident was first forwarded to Help Desk 7th June, 8 weeks later  
technicians arrive to install.
The first call to help desk was pushed to the next level where I was  
asked to check a few things for testing - carried out these tests and  
the guy informed me that the projector required replacement. The  
incident was then passed to region and was informed they would contact  
me - no response after 2-3 weeks so logged another call to help desk -  
same response - finally Region arrived carried out the same tests I  
was instructed to do - another 2 weeks and no response - further call  
to help desk and the end of term 2 - with a possible date next term or  
during the holidays - but could give no concrete date for holidays -  
Term 3 - week 1 no response - next call to help desk - passed to next  
level - where someone informs me this is old and should have been  
fixed !!!!!!
Another call and finally the delivery - but no it is the new cpc  
server - week 2 projector arrives and installation date is set for 3rd  
August. That's over 8 weeks interruption to children's learning.
Is there another way?
Now I have no complaints about the guy on Help desk - mostly got  
Brendan - who must be tired of calls from me - but thanks. The system  
needs a drastic overhaul.


Richard Evans
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From tori.potts at beyondchalk.com  Thu Aug  4 18:20:24 2011
From: tori.potts at beyondchalk.com (Tori Potts)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:20:24 +0000
Subject: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural NSW
 this August / September
Message-ID: <CA609373.5824%tori.potts@beyondchalk.com>

Beyond Chalk would like to invite all NSW Schools to attend the
 ?Creativity in the Classroom? Roadshow

A FREE Mac focused Professional Development day for Teachers and Support Staff

The Roadshow will be held this August and September across NSW and seats are limited.

August  2011
        17th        Armidale
       19th        Newcastle
        31st         Canberra
September  2011
        7th          Wollongong
        9th           Bathurst
       23rd        Lismore

Registration for the FREE events is via our website www.beyondchalk.com/index/php/category/events

We look forward to seeing you there.

If you have any further questions about the events please feel free to contact me via email support at beyondchalk.com or call 0448 937 497

Thanks Tori

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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Thu Aug  4 21:29:23 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:29:23 +1000
Subject: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural
 NSW this August / September
In-Reply-To: <CA609373.5824%tori.potts@beyondchalk.com>
References: <CA609373.5824%tori.potts@beyondchalk.com>
Message-ID: <a06240800ca6032694928@[10.0.0.3]>

Geez they are really scared by distance. I live a bit east of the 
middle of NSW and the nearest show is just shy of half way to Sydney. 
This ain't Rural NSW. It's 2-3 hours drive inland.
Must be the cost of the fuel.
Cheers
Jock


From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Thu Aug  4 21:31:12 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 21:31:12 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Flickering projector
In-Reply-To: <1312036931.62331.YahooMailClassic@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312036931.62331.YahooMailClassic@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a06240801ca60332474fc@[10.0.0.3]>

Turns out this particular item can't deal with having its power 
adaptor plugged in anywhere within coee of the projector cable.  Good 
one eh?
Jock


From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Fri Aug  5 18:57:10 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:57:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] Flickering projector
In-Reply-To: <a06240801ca60332474fc@[10.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <1312534630.24264.YahooMailClassic@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Jock
Just a thought.I'd be replacing the power adaptor.Not sure if they still use windings, but if so could possibly could be a sign of ?failing winding insulation which could short and cause wider damage.
Cheers
Dave

--- On Thu, 4/8/11, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

From: Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Maced] Flickering projector
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Received: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 9:31 PM

Turns out this particular item can't deal with having its power adaptor plugged in anywhere within coee of the projector cable.? Good one eh?
Jock

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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Fri Aug  5 18:58:04 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 01:58:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural
	NSW this August / September
In-Reply-To: <a06240800ca6032694928@[10.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <1312534684.17871.YahooMailClassic@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Thought the same thing Jock!

--- On Thu, 4/8/11, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

From: Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural NSW this August / September
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Received: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 9:29 PM

Geez they are really scared by distance. I live a bit east of the middle of NSW and the nearest show is just shy of half way to Sydney. This ain't Rural NSW. It's 2-3 hours drive inland.
Must be the cost of the fuel.
Cheers
Jock

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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Sat Aug  6 09:18:28 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:18:28 +1000
Subject: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural
	NSW this August / September
In-Reply-To: <1312534684.17871.YahooMailClassic@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312534684.17871.YahooMailClassic@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <70FF7F8D-BA2C-45AE-B6C3-140C95FD61DD@optusnet.com.au>

Congrats on your award yesterday Dave

John

On 05/08/2011, at 6:58 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> Thought the same thing Jock!
> 
> --- On Thu, 4/8/11, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural NSW this August / September
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Received: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 9:29 PM
> 
> Geez they are really scared by distance. I live a bit east of the middle of NSW and the nearest show is just shy of half way to Sydney. This ain't Rural NSW. It's 2-3 hours drive inland.
> Must be the cost of the fuel.
> Cheers
> Jock
> 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Sat Aug  6 14:18:21 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 21:18:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural
	NSW this August / September
In-Reply-To: <70FF7F8D-BA2C-45AE-B6C3-140C95FD61DD@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1312604301.58160.YahooMailClassic@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

And congratulations to you John.Nice to see some Mac schools getting airplay with Region again!

--- On Sat, 6/8/11, John Akhurst <johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: John Akhurst <johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural NSW this August / September
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Received: Saturday, 6 August, 2011, 9:18 AM

Congrats on your award yesterday Dave
John
On 05/08/2011, at 6:58 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote:
Thought the same thing Jock!

--- On Thu, 4/8/11, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

From: Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Maced] FREE | Creativity in the Classroom Roadshow in Rural NSW this August / September
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Received: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 9:29 PM

Geez they are really scared by distance. I live a bit east of the middle of NSW and the nearest show is just shy of half way to Sydney. This ain't Rural NSW. It's 2-3 hours drive inland.
Must be the cost of the fuel.
Cheers
Jock

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From jmugg at mac1.com.au  Tue Aug  9 12:07:41 2011
From: jmugg at mac1.com.au (James Mugg)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:07:41 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Ignite Engage Inspire, with Marco Torres - MAC1 Event,
	August 30 2011
Message-ID: <3C14B315-9D83-4DAA-901F-62D03D7A2D79@mac1.com.au>

MAC1 is proud to present Marco Torres as he discusses how to ignite, engage and inspire learning

A secondary teacher, award winning media coach and education technology director for San Fernando High School, one of the largest urban schools in Los Angeles, Marco Torres is a strong advocate for multimedia as a medium for students to express their knowledge and ideas.

Be inspired as he discusses how the integration of digital tools most familiar to students can create new learning opportunities and empower students to reach new levels.

Tuesday 30 August 2011 9.00am - 3.30pm at Camberwell Girls Grammar School

Details: http://www.mac1.com.au/emailpages/MacroTorresMelb/AUS_MarcoTorresMelb.html

Registration: http://www.mac1.com.au/pages/events-MarcoTorresMelbindex.php

Best regards, 

James Mugg | Education Account Manager - Victoria | MAC1 Melbourne
E   jmugg at mac1.com.au
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Tue Aug  9 14:13:26 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (rblit at iinet.net.au)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 04:13:26 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Ignite Engage Inspire, with Marco Torres - MAC1 Event,
	August 30 2011
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From matt at skoss.org  Thu Aug 11 08:23:32 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:53:32 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Search function on iPhone
Message-ID: <24444B0B-6A35-4320-AA53-CC10E8E5265B@skoss.org>

For reasons unknown, whenever I search for an app on my iPhone, or any other information, all that is searched on is the Address Book, emails and Notes.

Where do I adjust what is searched upon?

Thanks.

Regards, Matt.

From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Aug 11 08:44:53 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:44:53 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iwb projector
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844B@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

We have an epson EB 460e short throw projector on a smart iwb.
When it turns on the image has a shadow (second lighter blurry image)...makes me sea sick..any ideas out there ?


Glennn Southwell
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Thu Aug 11 08:51:11 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 06:51:11 +0800
Subject: [Maced] MacBook gone??
Message-ID: <6E1EFB0F-74FE-4F49-AF58-C4CA080921C6@iinet.net.au>

I've been in the bush for a month.
The Apple  Store (non-education) does not seem to list a macbook, just the air and the pro.
Has it been discontinued?
It is still on the education store.
blitto
Rod Blitvich 
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From jdb at guru.com.au  Thu Aug 11 08:57:04 2011
From: jdb at guru.com.au (John Barlow)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:57:04 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iwb projector
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844B@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
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On 11/08/2011 8:44 AM, Southwell, Glenn wrote:
> We have an epson EB 460e short throw projector on a smart iwb.
> When it turns on the image has a shadow (second lighter blurry
> image)...makes me sea sick..any ideas out there ?

Try another video cable - I have had "ghosting" of images from inferior 
quality cables.  Just a guess.




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straw bale owner-builder
http://www.guru.com.au/farm/
Officially recognised Transition Town Trainer
http://transition.org.au/



From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 09:49:48 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:49:48 +1000
Subject: [Maced] MacBook gone??
In-Reply-To: <6E1EFB0F-74FE-4F49-AF58-C4CA080921C6@iinet.net.au>
References: <6E1EFB0F-74FE-4F49-AF58-C4CA080921C6@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <2CAFC2CA-A2C3-435E-BE89-4562C486E487@gmail.com>

Hi Rod,

Yes it's still in the ed store. we never used CD's though so I'd be considering the airs. Lighter for kids to carry also.

Cheers from Jenny


On 11/08/2011, at 8:51 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> I've been in the bush for a month.
> The Apple  Store (non-education) does not seem to list a macbook, just the air and the pro.
> Has it been discontinued?
> It is still on the education store.
> blitto
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
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>  http://web.me.com/blitto
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Australia

ICTEV teacher of the year 2011
Slide2learn founding and team member

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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Aug 11 10:25:07 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:25:07 +1000
Subject: [Maced] eT4L server
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844C@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

So i hear we are getting one... what is it for ?
Is the old cpc server supposed to still be working ?
Mine isn't..


Glennn Southwell
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From fatalbert at exemail.com.au  Thu Aug 11 10:47:18 2011
From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:47:18 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iwb projector
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844B@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844B@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <801A3919-06B4-44AF-84D1-6A0AE34B7DEF@exemail.com.au>

Not Sure Glen but 
we had a projector not throwing the image. The solution was to reset the projector with a paper clip.
The reset button was on the top of the machine
On 11/08/2011, at 8:44 AM, Southwell, Glenn wrote:

> We have an epson EB 460e short throw projector on a smart iwb.
> When it turns on the image has a shadow (second lighter blurry image)...makes me sea sick..any ideas out there ?
> 
> 
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From pjhay at pacific.net.au  Thu Aug 11 16:54:47 2011
From: pjhay at pacific.net.au (Pauline Hunt)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:54:47 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Search function on iPhone
In-Reply-To: <24444B0B-6A35-4320-AA53-CC10E8E5265B@skoss.org>
References: <24444B0B-6A35-4320-AA53-CC10E8E5265B@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <E68A1805-C508-4F01-B4E1-72CF0CEF74BA@pacific.net.au>

Hi Matt,

Guess its the same on ipad but in settings > General >  Spotlight search tick all options

Regards
Pauline
On 11/08/2011, at 8:23 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> For reasons unknown, whenever I search for an app on my iPhone, or any other information, all that is searched on is the Address Book, emails and Notes.
> 
> Where do I adjust what is searched upon?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
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From dwren at padua.qld.edu.au  Thu Aug 11 17:06:18 2011
From: dwren at padua.qld.edu.au (David Wren)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:06:18 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Hiding Password upon entry
Message-ID: <2B3E47FE-A689-4551-8607-4BD17E1131E3@padua.qld.edu.au>

Hi Everyone,
A concern has been raised that passwords are compromised as they are entered into the iPad, the character is displayed momentarily before changing to a 'dot'.
The concern is that teachers would need to ensure that the iPad is not connected to a shared display, or students looking too closely when p/w where being entered. 
Can this be turned off?
David Wren
Padua College
Technology Support Yrs 5 to 7






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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Aug 11 20:22:58 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] eT4L server
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844C@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <1313058178.36625.YahooMailClassic@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

My understanding it will make use of virtual server technology to bring in windows server functionality if the school desires it.

--- On Thu, 11/8/11, Southwell, Glenn <GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

From: Southwell, Glenn <GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au>
Subject: [Maced] eT4L server
To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Received: Thursday, 11 August, 2011, 10:25 AM

So i hear we are getting one... what is it for ?
Is the old cpc server supposed to still be working ?
Mine isn't..


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From kanangrabeef at bigpond.com  Thu Aug 11 21:11:54 2011
From: kanangrabeef at bigpond.com (Rob Emerson)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:11:54 +1000
Subject: [Maced] eT4L server
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD0844C@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <CA69F61A.4258%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>

Hi Glenn,
Go to SchoolBiz (InPrincipal) link in My Portal. Our region (Western) has a
detailed explanation in the June 3 issue under "Critical Reading". Was on
LSL at the time. Our big box is collecting dust in a storeroom :)
Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS.


On 8/11/11 10:25 AM, "Southwell, Glenn" <GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au>
wrote:

> So i hear we are getting one... what is it for ?
> Is the old cpc server supposed to still be working ?
> Mine isn't..
> 
> 
> Glennn Southwell
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> Albion Park Rail Public
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From esheerin at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 21:52:38 2011
From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:52:38 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
Message-ID: <00be01cc581d$2d64ac10$882e0430$@gmail.com>

Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
solution?

 

works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem

 

Ellen

 

 

 

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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Fri Aug 12 15:06:31 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:06:31 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc581d$2d64ac10$882e0430$@gmail.com>
References: <00be01cc581d$2d64ac10$882e0430$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FB83173-9ACE-4586-A5B9-AE299D45D6D6@mac.com>

In my experience when this happens, both Flash and Notebook need to be updated. Updating Flash alone did not work.
Mike 



On 11/08/2011, at 9:52 PM, Ellen Sheerin <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a solution?
> 
>  
> 
> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
> 
>  
> 
> Ellen
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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From kanangrabeef at bigpond.com  Fri Aug 12 17:33:18 2011
From: kanangrabeef at bigpond.com (Rob Emerson)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:33:18 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <00be01cc581d$2d64ac10$882e0430$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>

Hi Ellen,
This page at the Smarttech site may help:
http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS


On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
> solution?
> 
>  
> 
> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
> 
>  
> 
> Ellen
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Fri Aug 12 21:39:16 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 21:39:16 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
References: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>

Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update. 
According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience 
tells me) that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 
don't have the problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was 
well out of date by the time I first  used it and is now 2 full 
versions behind. !0.8 is available for download, but I recommend that 
you uninstall everything but the gallery files, awhile SMART does not 
say this on their site I have had 50% failure unless I do this. Some 
nice upgrades.
Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze 
versions have some issues. I
>used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve 
>the calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to 
>read-they have never said that before!!!!!. :=)

Cheers
Jock

>This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>
>
>On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
>>  solution?
>>
>> 
>>
>>  works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>
>> 
>>
>>  Ellen
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
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From fatalbert at exemail.com.au  Fri Aug 12 22:02:27 2011
From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:02:27 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
References: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
	<a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <0BB09AB6-6589-4F71-87F9-E6BB1F3D3109@exemail.com.au>

When I download from the Smart siteit wants a product code. I am a DET user is there a way around this as I have had 4 different machines needing to have Notebook reinstalled and I have to go through the process of getting a product code using a smartboard serial no.

Any ideas?
Thanks Jim
On 12/08/2011, at 9:39 PM, Jock Webb wrote:

> Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update. According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience tells me) that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 don't have the problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was well out of date by the time I first  used it and is now 2 full versions behind. !0.8 is available for download, but I recommend that you uninstall everything but the gallery files, awhile SMART does not say this on their site I have had 50% failure unless I do this. Some nice upgrades.
> Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze versions have some issues. I
>> used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve the calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to read-they have never said that before!!!!!. :=)
> 
> Cheers
> Jock
> 
>> This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>> http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>> Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
>>> solution?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ellen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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> 
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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Thanks Jim 
fatalbert at exemail.com.au




From kanangrabeef at bigpond.com  Sat Aug 13 08:31:03 2011
From: kanangrabeef at bigpond.com (Rob Emerson)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:31:03 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <0BB09AB6-6589-4F71-87F9-E6BB1F3D3109@exemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <CA6BE6C7.4270%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>

Hi Jim,
I have a serial number that I use for DET Smart Notebook installations. Will
send it offlist. I have not used it with versions beyond 10.6 SP3 though.
Cheers, Rob E.
PS: Ellen, I think Jock's suggestion might be a better way to go :)



On 8/12/11 10:02 PM, "Jim Carney" <fatalbert at exemail.com.au> wrote:

> When I download from the Smart siteit wants a product code. I am a DET user is
> there a way around this as I have had 4 different machines needing to have
> Notebook reinstalled and I have to go through the process of getting a product
> code using a smartboard serial no.
> 
> Any ideas?
> Thanks Jim
> On 12/08/2011, at 9:39 PM, Jock Webb wrote:
> 
>> Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update.
>> According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience tells me)
>> that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 don't have the
>> problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was well out of date by the
>> time I first  used it and is now 2 full versions behind. !0.8 is available
>> for download, but I recommend that you uninstall everything but the gallery
>> files, awhile SMART does not say this on their site I have had 50% failure
>> unless I do this. Some nice upgrades.
>> Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze versions
>> have some issues. I
>>> used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve the
>>> calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to read-they have
>>> never said that before!!!!!. :=)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jock
>> 
>>> This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>>> http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>>> Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
>>>> solution?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ellen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> Thanks Jim 
> fatalbert at exemail.com.au
> 
> 
> 
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From esheerin at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 08:34:04 2011
From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:34:04 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
References: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
	<a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <000f01cc593f$f35afd20$da10f760$@gmail.com>

I have a new Mac laptop running Lion and I installed 10.8 from the Smart
site with no problems. It is a uni student who had the issue and they are
all downloading from the smart site so most are getting 10.8 - not through
DET/DEC. Just remember it happening and said I would ask.

I think he may have fixed the problem but will certainly pass on all the
comments. Sounds like a reinstall of smart after updating Flash may solve
the problem but I will tell him to make sure he removes all the old version
of smart first.

thanks to everyone who responded
Ellen


-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
Behalf Of Jock Webb
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 9:39 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue

Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update. 
According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience tells
me) that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 don't have the
problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was well out of date by the
time I first  used it and is now 2 full versions behind. !0.8 is available
for download, but I recommend that you uninstall everything but the gallery
files, awhile SMART does not say this on their site I have had 50% failure
unless I do this. Some nice upgrades.
Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze versions
have some issues. I
>used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve the 
>calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to read-they 
>have never said that before!!!!!. :=)

Cheers
Jock

>This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>
>
>On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was 
>> there a  solution?
>>
>> 
>>
>>  works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>
>> 
>>
>>  Ellen
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Maced mailing list
>>  Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>  http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>
>
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From esheerin at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 08:36:15 2011
From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:36:15 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <0BB09AB6-6589-4F71-87F9-E6BB1F3D3109@exemail.com.au>
References: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>	<a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
	<0BB09AB6-6589-4F71-87F9-E6BB1F3D3109@exemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <001001cc5940$446d8930$cd489b90$@gmail.com>

You only need one smartboard code and can install the resulting  product
code on many machines from what I remember initially as we had smartboards
well before DET/DEC had the program on their site.
that's what's happening at Uni too - one code for all students

Ellen

-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
Behalf Of Jim Carney
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2011 10:02 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue

When I download from the Smart siteit wants a product code. I am a DET user
is there a way around this as I have had 4 different machines needing to
have Notebook reinstalled and I have to go through the process of getting a
product code using a smartboard serial no.

Any ideas?
Thanks Jim
On 12/08/2011, at 9:39 PM, Jock Webb wrote:

> Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update.
According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience tells
me) that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 don't have the
problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was well out of date by the
time I first  used it and is now 2 full versions behind. !0.8 is available
for download, but I recommend that you uninstall everything but the gallery
files, awhile SMART does not say this on their site I have had 50% failure
unless I do this. Some nice upgrades.
> Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze 
> versions have some issues. I
>> used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve 
>> the calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to 
>> read-they have never said that before!!!!!. :=)
> 
> Cheers
> Jock
> 
>> This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>> http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>> Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was 
>>> there a solution?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ellen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

Thanks Jim
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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Sat Aug 13 08:53:24 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:53:24 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad Photos
Message-ID: <9C53B8E9-2908-4FF8-87F4-DFCE23D09BF6@optusnet.com.au>

Hi all

My 3 year old grandson loves my new iPad especially Photobooth. Is there a way to do a bulk delete of the 500+ photos he has taken of the floor, the ceiling, his nose, my shoes, etc. or do I have to delete them one by one?

John

From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 09:11:28 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:11:28 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad Photos
In-Reply-To: <9C53B8E9-2908-4FF8-87F4-DFCE23D09BF6@optusnet.com.au>
References: <9C53B8E9-2908-4FF8-87F4-DFCE23D09BF6@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <60537781-20C2-4421-8F93-867AE85DA4C2@gmail.com>

Hi John,

I import and delete all on my Mac it's quicker than on the iPad.  iPhoto on the iPad needs lots of work it lacks many needed features to be a stand alone app. One of the reasons the iPad won't take over the laptop.

Cheers from Jenny

Sent from my iPad

On 13/08/2011, at 8:53 AM, John Akhurst <johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> My 3 year old grandson loves my new iPad especially Photobooth. Is there a way to do a bulk delete of the 500+ photos he has taken of the floor, the ceiling, his nose, my shoes, etc. or do I have to delete them one by one?
> 
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From esheerin at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 09:26:16 2011
From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:26:16 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <CA6BE6C7.4270%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
References: <0BB09AB6-6589-4F71-87F9-E6BB1F3D3109@exemail.com.au>
	<CA6BE6C7.4270%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <001901cc5947$3e42b150$bac813f0$@gmail.com>

I will talk to my student next week when I see him - have passed on the
suggestions so will see what happens.
thanks to everyone

Ellen

-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
Behalf Of Rob Emerson
Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011 8:31 AM
To: Maced List
Subject: Re: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue

Hi Jim,
I have a serial number that I use for DET Smart Notebook installations. Will
send it offlist. I have not used it with versions beyond 10.6 SP3 though.
Cheers, Rob E.
PS: Ellen, I think Jock's suggestion might be a better way to go :)



On 8/12/11 10:02 PM, "Jim Carney" <fatalbert at exemail.com.au> wrote:

> When I download from the Smart siteit wants a product code. I am a DET 
> user is there a way around this as I have had 4 different machines 
> needing to have Notebook reinstalled and I have to go through the 
> process of getting a product code using a smartboard serial no.
> 
> Any ideas?
> Thanks Jim
> On 12/08/2011, at 9:39 PM, Jock Webb wrote:
> 
>> Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update.
>> According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience 
>> tells me) that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 
>> don't have the problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was 
>> well out of date by the time I first  used it and is now 2 full 
>> versions behind. !0.8 is available for download, but I recommend that 
>> you uninstall everything but the gallery files, awhile SMART does not 
>> say this on their site I have had 50% failure unless I do this. Some nice
upgrades.
>> Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze 
>> versions have some issues. I
>>> used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve 
>>> the calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to 
>>> read-they have never said that before!!!!!. :=)
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jock
>> 
>>> This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>>> http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>>> Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was 
>>>> there a solution?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ellen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> Thanks Jim
> fatalbert at exemail.com.au
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From esheerin at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 09:27:13 2011
From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:27:13 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad Photos
In-Reply-To: <9C53B8E9-2908-4FF8-87F4-DFCE23D09BF6@optusnet.com.au>
References: <9C53B8E9-2908-4FF8-87F4-DFCE23D09BF6@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <001a01cc5947$603c81f0$20b585d0$@gmail.com>

have you tried download to computer - will it ask if you want to delete the
originals?

Ellen

-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
Behalf Of John Akhurst
Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011 8:53 AM
To: MacED technical support for educators; DETOSX Listserve
Subject: [Maced] iPad Photos

Hi all

My 3 year old grandson loves my new iPad especially Photobooth. Is there a
way to do a bulk delete of the 500+ photos he has taken of the floor, the
ceiling, his nose, my shoes, etc. or do I have to delete them one by one?

John
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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Sat Aug 13 09:31:57 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:31:57 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad Photos
In-Reply-To: <001a01cc5947$603c81f0$20b585d0$@gmail.com>
References: <9C53B8E9-2908-4FF8-87F4-DFCE23D09BF6@optusnet.com.au>
	<001a01cc5947$603c81f0$20b585d0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E88B59DE-53C2-452B-81C6-F8344331AB8B@optusnet.com.au>

Thanks Jenny and Ellen for your ideas. Haven't tried downloading the photos from Photobooth onto my mac as yet. Will give it a go.

John

On 13/08/2011, at 9:27 AM, Ellen Sheerin wrote:

> have you tried download to computer - will it ask if you want to delete the
> originals?
> 
> Ellen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
> Behalf Of John Akhurst
> Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2011 8:53 AM
> To: MacED technical support for educators; DETOSX Listserve
> Subject: [Maced] iPad Photos
> 
> Hi all
> 
> My 3 year old grandson loves my new iPad especially Photobooth. Is there a
> way to do a bulk delete of the 500+ photos he has taken of the floor, the
> ceiling, his nose, my shoes, etc. or do I have to delete them one by one?
> 
> John
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From fordfam4 at bigpond.com  Sat Aug 13 16:36:16 2011
From: fordfam4 at bigpond.com (Robyn Ford)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:36:16 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1016.1313188063.181.maced@zeus.as.edu.au>
References: <mailman.1016.1313188063.181.maced@zeus.as.edu.au>
Message-ID: <3F936CAC-FC98-430B-8735-867BB500377D@bigpond.com>

I had the same problem. I emailed Smart and received a product code which they say I may use for 5 years on as many machines as I wish. 

I am a DET user and ALWAYS use the version from the smarttech site - updated 15 computers last week without a problem.

As Jock said - ALWAYS uninstall Notebook and Product drivers first

Cheers, Robyn

From pjgosbee at pacific.net.au  Sat Aug 13 20:55:25 2011
From: pjgosbee at pacific.net.au (Pam Gosbee)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 20:55:25 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook
In-Reply-To: <a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
References: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
	<a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <81465136-BAA2-4F4F-A76F-9F7683930DD7@pacific.net.au>

Downloaded Version10.8 - worked perfectly on my  iMac - did not have to register it - but when downloaded to a Mac Mini connected to a whiteboard - it kept asking for a key to register - tried ones I had but all failed - spent quite a while on phone with smartboard support - they gave me three keys and still would not work - after several hours gave up and put previous version back on - Smart support emailed that this was a good move as after my call they had 4 more people having problems with 10.8. First went over previous version - second time uninstalled everything - but no difference.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Pam Gosbee
Ellison PS




On 12/08/2011, at 9:39 PM, Jock Webb wrote:

> Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update. According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience tells me) that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 don't have the problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was well out of date by the time I first  used it and is now 2 full versions behind. !0.8 is available for download, but I recommend that you uninstall everything but the gallery files, awhile SMART does not say this on their site I have had 50% failure unless I do this. Some nice upgrades.
> Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze versions have some issues. I
>> used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve the calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to read-they have never said that before!!!!!. :=)
> 
> Cheers
> Jock
> 
>> This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>> http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>> Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
>>> solution?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ellen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Sat Aug 13 21:44:29 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:44:29 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook
In-Reply-To: <81465136-BAA2-4F4F-A76F-9F7683930DD7@pacific.net.au>
References: <CA6B145E.426B%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
	<a06240804ca6abfb1166b@[10.0.0.3]>
	<81465136-BAA2-4F4F-A76F-9F7683930DD7@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <a06240801ca6c11f198a3@[10.0.0.3]>

Hi Pam
Yes
I had one succesful install and one that didn't. You must have some 
remaining earlier version files. According to SMART tech support, 
this is caused by corruption of the install key due to the new over 
old install. It like to drove me crazy. UNinstall 10.8 and everything 
else you can find except the gallery files.  You may have to actually 
trash the SMART product drivers folder as the uninstall did not work 
possibly due to version conflict. This cleared the problem up at 
once. There is a lot to like in 10.8.

SMART has not previously recommended uninstalling except for major 
upgrades and they have always put it on the site. I went 10.6 to 10.7 
to 10.8 no drama, but the second install was a fairly early 10.6 to 
10.8. It didn't ask for the code the second time. Saw the same 
problem with a 10.7 to 10.8 on Windows (admittedly Vista) I only 
slightly crossly suggested they put a release note on their site-they 
were quite helpful.
Regards
Jock


From fatalbert at exemail.com.au  Sun Aug 14 08:40:48 2011
From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:40:48 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Smart Notebook and Flash issue
In-Reply-To: <CA6BE6C7.4270%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
References: <CA6BE6C7.4270%kanangrabeef@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <FA1CE515-A11B-4395-B3FB-34793DB25E75@exemail.com.au>

Thanks Rob
that has worked.
Jim
On 13/08/2011, at 8:31 AM, Rob Emerson wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> I have a serial number that I use for DET Smart Notebook installations. Will
> send it offlist. I have not used it with versions beyond 10.6 SP3 though.
> Cheers, Rob E.
> PS: Ellen, I think Jock's suggestion might be a better way to go :)
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/12/11 10:02 PM, "Jim Carney" <fatalbert at exemail.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> When I download from the Smart siteit wants a product code. I am a DET user is
>> there a way around this as I have had 4 different machines needing to have
>> Notebook reinstalled and I have to go through the process of getting a product
>> code using a smartboard serial no.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks Jim
>> On 12/08/2011, at 9:39 PM, Jock Webb wrote:
>> 
>>> Ellen I can send you the replacement plug ins, but better to update.
>>> According to Smarttech Support (and it is true as far as experience tells me)
>>> that later versions of Notebook 10.6 and 10. 7 and 10.8 don't have the
>>> problem. If this is a NSW DEC installation, it was well out of date by the
>>> time I first  used it and is now 2 full versions behind. !0.8 is available
>>> for download, but I recommend that you uninstall everything but the gallery
>>> files, awhile SMART does not say this on their site I have had 50% failure
>>> unless I do this. Some nice upgrades.
>>> Note that DEC does not support 10.7 let alone 10.8 as the windoze versions
>>> have some issues. I
>>>> used 10.7 Mac for a month at it was fine as far as I can tell. LOve the
>>>> calligraphy pen. My kids even said it made my writing easy to read-they have
>>>> never said that before!!!!!. :=)
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jock
>>> 
>>>> This page at the Smarttech site may help:
>>>> http://bit.ly/pL8Jqh
>>>> Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/11/11 9:52 PM, "Ellen Sheerin" <esheerin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Know this was discussed earlier but didn't keep the messages. Was there a
>>>>> solution?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> works perfectly for me but a student is having a problem
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ellen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> Thanks Jim 
>> fatalbert at exemail.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

Thanks Jim 
fatalbert at exemail.com.au




From matt at skoss.org  Sun Aug 14 23:36:21 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:06:21 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Command line code to remotely turn on tracking (for
	lost/stolen laptops once they get on a network)
Message-ID: <F709302A-D2B6-4382-B58D-4A1168A5B3AE@skoss.org>

Does anyone have any coding that we can put on our MacBooks, allowing them to be remotely turned on (like GadgetTrak, etal) should the device go missing?

I can't see the point of buying commercial software across several hundred computers, if some command line wizardry will achieve the same thing?

Regards, Matt Skoss.
0418-624 631

From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Mon Aug 15 13:24:21 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:24:21 +1000
Subject: [Maced] IWB reversal
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08451@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

We have a Smart board that is reversing its position...
different computer it works ok..so obviously some command on the computer
Helpp pleaseeee


Glennn Southwell
              at
        The Rail 
Albion Park Rail Public
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From GEOFFREY.WALES at det.nsw.edu.au  Mon Aug 15 18:30:40 2011
From: GEOFFREY.WALES at det.nsw.edu.au (Wales, Geoffrey)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:30:40 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Cyber Citizenship Contract
Message-ID: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>

My school is looking for an internet usage policy/contract for students.

If anybody has one of these would you mind sharing it?

Thanks,

Geoff Wales
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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Mon Aug 15 19:03:58 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:03:58 +1000
Subject: [Maced] IWB reversal
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08451@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08451@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <a06240800ca6e907b223a@[10.0.0.3]>

Hi Glenn
Check the hardware settings in the Control Panel to make sure that no 
axis settings have been altered.
That will do it, but also I had one do this last week and an 
ill-advised install had been done with resultant version/driver stuff 
ups. Uninstalled/reinstalled Notebook the drivers and the issue went 
away. Mighty surprising when you first see it though.
Best of Luck
Jock


From matt at skoss.org  Mon Aug 15 22:40:23 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 22:10:23 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Where are passwords lurking on iPads ???
Message-ID: <8FDB02E3-08B0-4109-9C06-7F6D29A0EC17@skoss.org>

Having just changed my password for Active Directory at school, I'm now finding myself caught out with several iPads for student use causing my account to be locked out, as they try to hit the wireless network (authenticated on AD) and the proxy server. I'd set up the iPads when we got them late last year, and must have left my proxy authentication in prior to us using an unauthenticated proxy for iPads.

With the help of our Network Manager checking the error logs, we've found the offending iPads (identified by their MAC address, linked to their asset #). I've looked through the Settings, and have dumped all network settings, but still my account is being tripped out .

Am I missing anything really obvious???

Changing one's password, when you have multiple devices is a trap!

Regards, Matt.
0418-624 631




From fatalbert at exemail.com.au  Tue Aug 16 13:23:32 2011
From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:23:32 +1000
Subject: [Maced] BTN on Macs inside NSW DET
Message-ID: <4E11F9D6-429C-4B31-9AB9-441BA2CC909E@exemail.com.au>

Hi all,
I am having difficulty accessing BTN on Macs when inside NSW DET. Is it possible?
Thanks Jim 
fatalbert at exemail.com.au


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From warren at wazmac.com  Tue Aug 16 10:07:14 2011
From: warren at wazmac.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:07:14 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Cyber Citizenship Contract
In-Reply-To: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>
References: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <EE8FEF43-5BA3-41FA-9110-BB156E2AC666@wazmac.com>

If you are in a NSW school, this is probably a good place to start?
https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/policies/general_man/general/accep_use/PD20020046.shtml

Other related info here?
http://www.wazmac.com/latest_news/policy/

Regards,
Warren



On 15/08/2011, at 6:30 PM, Wales, Geoffrey wrote:

> My school is looking for an internet usage policy/contract for students.
> 
> If anybody has one of these would you mind sharing it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Geoff Wales
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From morton.sh at optusnet.com.au  Tue Aug 16 19:20:17 2011
From: morton.sh at optusnet.com.au (Sue Morton)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:20:17 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Convert .vob to .mov or .flv
Message-ID: <81136D76-EAB3-47AF-97EA-7F1D7DA327DF@optusnet.com.au>

Is there any free software to convert a .vob video file into something that can be reduced in size to play on the web or in a SMART notebook. Currently using a mac but willing to have a go tomorrow on a PC.

Thanks in advance

Sue Morton

From markw at preshil.vic.edu.au  Tue Aug 16 19:47:47 2011
From: markw at preshil.vic.edu.au (Mark Walsh)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:47:47 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Convert .vob to .mov or .flv
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try http://videomonkey.org/

Mark


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Subject: [Maced] Convert .vob to .mov or .flv

Is there any free software to convert a .vob video file into something that can be reduced in size to play on the web or in a SMART notebook. Currently using a mac but willing to have a go tomorrow on a PC.

Thanks in advance

Sue Morton
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Tue Aug 16 22:16:46 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:16:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
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This may interest some on this list. :)

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html



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From warren at wazmac.com  Wed Aug 17 06:37:47 2011
From: warren at wazmac.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:37:47 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
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On 16/08/2011, at 10:16 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> This may interest some on this list. :)
> 
> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
> 

Even more interesting was the follow-up article in yesterday's SMH, which quoted an unnamed Department spokesman blaming students for slowing the computers down by installing non-curriculum software?.

"''The laptops are configured to cater for the curriculum, but if students download programs not related to the curriculum, this has the potential to slow their curriculum applications,'' the spokesman said.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/digital-revolution-a-bit-slower-than-expected-20110815-1iuw2.html

The most common complaint I hear from schools is that they CAN'T install additional curriculum software on the computers, because they are too locked-down.

Is this not the case? Are student's able to install other applications? Or is the 'spokesman' clutching at straws?

I think that the bottom line here is that those who are implementing these types of programs are trying to apply an old paradigm to new technologies. Netbooks are intended to be used with Web 2 apps, such as Google Docs, Evernote, etc, not to host "managed images" containing Microsoft Office or the plethora of memory-hungry Adobe apps that have been installed. (I don't think the netbooks meet the basic specs for these apps anyway?)

It is a similar scenario facing those who are exploring the use of iPads in the curriculum - it is a new paradigm. A new way of doing things. 

Unfortunately most of the software tools required to make the most of these new hardware technologies are 'Cloud technologies' , and are not available on many school networks.

It's the result old-fashioned thinking from another era. Classroom opportunities are being stymied by office-bound bureaucrats.

Warren




From GEOFFREY.WALES at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Aug 17 08:45:20 2011
From: GEOFFREY.WALES at det.nsw.edu.au (Wales, Geoffrey)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:45:20 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Cyber Citizenship Contract
In-Reply-To: <EE8FEF43-5BA3-41FA-9110-BB156E2AC666@wazmac.com>
References: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>,
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Thanks  for that. I think they also want a document that children can read and sign.

I did find a few using a Google search.

Geoff Wales
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Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:07 AM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] Cyber Citizenship Contract

If you are in a NSW school, this is probably a good place to start?
https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/policies/general_man/general/accep_use/PD20020046.shtml

Other related info here?
http://www.wazmac.com/latest_news/policy/

Regards,
Warren



On 15/08/2011, at 6:30 PM, Wales, Geoffrey wrote:

> My school is looking for an internet usage policy/contract for students.
>
> If anybody has one of these would you mind sharing it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Wales
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Subject: [Maced] Please remove me from the Maced mailing list
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From ajistewart at gmail.com  Wed Aug 17 09:09:32 2011
From: ajistewart at gmail.com (Andrew Stewart)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:09:32 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Convert .vob to .mov or .flv
In-Reply-To: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061A372D@mailserver2010>
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otherwise you can use Handbrake, that will convert to MP4, then just use Quicktime 7 Pro to convert to MOV

On 16/08/2011, at 7:47 PM, Mark Walsh wrote:

> try http://videomonkey.org/
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] on behalf of Sue Morton [morton.sh at optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 7:20 PM
> To: Mac technical support for educators; DET Apple OSX server support; nswcc at nswceg.org.au
> Subject: [Maced] Convert .vob to .mov or .flv
> 
> Is there any free software to convert a .vob video file into something that can be reduced in size to play on the web or in a SMART notebook. Currently using a mac but willing to have a go tomorrow on a PC.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Sue Morton
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From mlevins at as.edu.au  Wed Aug 17 10:01:52 2011
From: mlevins at as.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:01:52 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Mentors needed - small time allocation. 16ish year olds in
	Australia
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Hello everybody, and apologies for any cross-posting

I have a Maths/Science Extension class at present, and we are working on a project loosely arranged around the concept of the limits of human endurance

There are approx 20 kids doing a range of stuff, from experimental to research based projects

I'm looking for people to help by:

looking at their wiki pages and reading their progress reports (probably twice would be fine)
commenting on the page (anonymous comments are moderated)

They are due to finish these tasks by Sept 16

Some already have friends as mentors (friends of the family or similar) but additional ones would still be welcome (perhaps you have some similarly aged students yourself?)

No experience necessary. I'm aiming for communication skills as well as the Science/Maths

Please message me off list if you're happy to contribute

You'll find the kids' work at:

http://teams.as.edu.au/groups/year10extmathsscience1/wiki/8552a/Term_3_Units.html

At the bottom of the page you'll see a link to the students work areas

Thanks in anticipation


Cheers
Martin

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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Wed Aug 17 18:46:23 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:46:23 +1000
Subject: [Maced] BTN on Macs inside NSW DET
In-Reply-To: <4E11F9D6-429C-4B31-9AB9-441BA2CC909E@exemail.com.au>
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In a word mate NO. I have been down this road and this is what I am 
told by the DEC. BTN on a Mac requires a port which DEC will not 
allow access to on their network. End of story. It is indeed 
aggravating and if anyone knows why I don't.
Sorry to bring bad news
Jock
>Hi all,
>I am having difficulty accessing BTN on Macs when inside NSW DET. Is 
>it possible?
>Thanks Jim
>fatalbert at exemail.com.au
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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Wed Aug 17 18:53:46 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:53:46 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <1313497006.57444.YahooMailNeo@web112615.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>
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Hmm Dave
What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too 
many of the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember 
that our then DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck 
macbooks and refused them . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad 
that Rudd gets the blame for our state's poor decision (or perhaps 
the previous governments hand in the till).
BAH
Jock
>This may interest some on this list. :)
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>
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From bryn.jones99 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 17 19:09:02 2011
From: bryn.jones99 at gmail.com (Bryn Jones)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:09:02 +0800
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <a06240803ca713132d757@[10.0.0.3]>
References: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>
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Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they justify the statevwide licence?

Sent from my iPad

On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> Hmm Dave
> What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many of the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused them . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the till).
> BAH
> Jock
>> This may interest some on this list. :)
> 
>> 
> 
>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Aug 17 19:40:05 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:40:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <A116D164-1822-4430-A71C-54662ADCA516@gmail.com>
References: <D0C73C5D2AA54B43B6B7E853A23198DD84435EE71F@SLUGPEXMC20.central.det.win>
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I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image, despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
There is just so much better?simpler and intuitive?software (read iLife, iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as corporate software consumers!
One size fits all!



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From: Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!


Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they justify the statevwide licence?

Sent from my iPad

On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:


Hmm Dave
>What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5
too many of the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to
remember that our then DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000
buck macbooks and refused them . The netbooks are a joke, but it is
sad that Rudd gets the blame for our state's poor decision (or perhaps
the previous governments hand in the till).
>BAH
>Jock
>This may interest some on this list.
:)
>
>>
>http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>
>
>>
>
>>________________________________
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From jbradley at internode.on.net  Wed Aug 17 20:09:13 2011
From: jbradley at internode.on.net (Jason Bradley)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:39:13 +0930
Subject: [Maced] BTN on Macs inside NSW DET
In-Reply-To: <a06240802ca712f91757a@[10.0.0.3]>
References: <4E11F9D6-429C-4B31-9AB9-441BA2CC909E@exemail.com.au>
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I think we may have found a solution to this. It isnt so much as the ports as the way some apps (flash) refuse to use the authenticating proxy. We have an iphone 3G using ALL apps behind the firewall. Will test iview and let you know how we go.

Cheers

Jason

On 17/08/2011, at 6:16 PM, Jock Webb wrote:

> In a word mate NO. I have been down this road and this is what I am told by the DEC. BTN on a Mac requires a port which DEC will not allow access to on their network. End of story. It is indeed aggravating and if anyone knows why I don't.
> Sorry to bring bad news
> Jock
>> Hi all,
>> I am having difficulty accessing BTN on Macs when inside NSW DET. Is it possible?
>> Thanks Jim
>> fatalbert at exemail.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> **********************************************************************
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> 
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From pjhay at pacific.net.au  Wed Aug 17 20:26:30 2011
From: pjhay at pacific.net.au (Pauline Hunt)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:26:30 +1000
Subject: [Maced] BTN on Macs inside NSW DET
In-Reply-To: <2C5BB7D1-CA64-41D5-A155-DD09B71C00A9@internode.on.net>
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On 17/08/2011, at 8:09 PM, Jason Bradley wrote:

> We have an iphone 3G using ALL apps behind the firewall.

Really Jason,

Tell us more

Regards
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Wed Aug 17 20:37:47 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:37:47 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <1313574005.78661.YahooMailNeo@web112619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA71D71B.5AD9%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

Hi Dave et al

What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on?  ie what did you used to use?

Chris XYZ


On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image,
> despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
> There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife,
> iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
> When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as corporate
> software consumers!
> One size fits all!
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
> 
> Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the Adobe
> stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they justify
> the statevwide licence?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hmm Dave
>> What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many of
>> the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then DET
>> lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused them . The
>> netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our state's
>> poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the till).
>> BAH
>> Jock
>>> This may interest some on this list. :)
>>> 
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-s
>>> lam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Aug 17 20:43:44 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 03:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <CA71D71B.5AD9%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
References: <1313574005.78661.YahooMailNeo@web112619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<CA71D71B.5AD9%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <1313577824.26137.YahooMailNeo@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

In the distant past our school used Photoshop.
That's about it.
IMHO Adobe learning curves are quite steep - more High School suitable.


________________________________
From: Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!


Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops! Hi Dave et al

What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on? ?ie what did you used to use?

Chris XYZ


On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:


I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image, despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
>There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife, iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
>When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as corporate software consumers!
>One size fits all!
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From:Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
>To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>
>Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they justify the statevwide licence?
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hmm Dave
>>What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many of the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused them . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the till).
>>BAH
>>Jock
>>
>>This may interest some on this list. :)
>>>
>>>http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>>
>>>>>>________________________________
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Wed Aug 17 20:58:01 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:58:01 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <1313577824.26137.YahooMailNeo@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA71DBD9.5ADC%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

True. We still use PS. What do you use instead? I actually can?t live
without PS.
XYZ


On 17/08/11 8:43 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> In the distant past our school used Photoshop.
> That's about it.
> IMHO Adobe learning curves are quite steep - more High School suitable.
> 
> 
> From: Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
> 
> Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!  Hi Dave et al
> 
> What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on?  ie what did you used to use?
> 
> Chris XYZ
> 
> 
> On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image,
>> despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
>> There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife,
>> iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
>> When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as corporate
>> software consumers!
>> One size fits all!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
>> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>> 
>> Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the
>> Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they
>> justify the statevwide licence?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmm Dave
>>> What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many of
>>> the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then
>>> DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused them .
>>> The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our
>>> state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the
>>> till).
>>> BAH
>>> Jock
>>>> This may interest some on this list. :)
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-
>>>> slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au  Wed Aug 17 20:59:40 2011
From: paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au (Paul Harmon)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:59:40 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <CA71DBD9.5ADC%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <CA71DC3C.44CA%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>

Hi Chris,
Have a look at Pixelmater.
http://www.pixelmator.com/
Paul


On 17/08/11 8:58 PM, "Chris Skrzeczynski" <cxyz at tpg.com.au> wrote:

> True. We still use PS. What do you use instead? I actually can?t live without
> PS.
> XYZ
> 
> 
> On 17/08/11 8:43 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> In the distant past our school used Photoshop.
>> That's about it.
>> IMHO Adobe learning curves are quite steep - more High School suitable.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>> 
>> Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!  Hi Dave et al
>> 
>> What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on?  ie what did you used to use?
>> 
>> Chris XYZ
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image,
>>> despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
>>> There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife,
>>> iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
>>> When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as corporate
>>> software consumers!
>>> One size fits all!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>>> 
>>> Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the
>>> Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they
>>> justify the statevwide licence?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hmm Dave
>>>> What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many of
>>>> the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then
>>>> DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused them
>>>> . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our
>>>> state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the
>>>> till).
>>>> BAH
>>>> Jock
>>>>> This may interest some on this list. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students
>>>>> -slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>  <http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced>
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Wed Aug 17 21:12:54 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:12:54 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <CA71DC3C.44CA%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CA71DF56.5ADF%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

Will do.
Thanks
XYZ:

> Hi Chris,
> Have a look at Pixelmater.
> http://www.pixelmator.com/
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 17/08/11 8:58 PM, "Chris Skrzeczynski" <cxyz at tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> True. We still use PS. What do you use instead? I actually can?t live without
>> PS.
>> XYZ
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/08/11 8:43 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> In the distant past our school used Photoshop.
>>> That's about it.
>>> IMHO Adobe learning curves are quite steep - more High School suitable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>>> 
>>> Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!  Hi Dave et al
>>> 
>>> What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on?  ie what did you used to use?
>>> 
>>> Chris XYZ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image,
>>>> despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
>>>> There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife,
>>>> iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
>>>> When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as
>>>> corporate software consumers!
>>>> One size fits all!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the
>>>> Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they
>>>> justify the statevwide licence?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm Dave
>>>>> What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many
>>>>> of the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our
>>>>> then DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused
>>>>> them . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for
>>>>> our state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the
>>>>> till).
>>>>> BAH
>>>>> Jock
>>>>>> This may interest some on this list. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-student
>>>>>> s-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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From rhysted at mac.com  Wed Aug 17 21:29:16 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:29:16 +1000
Subject: [Maced] BTN on Macs inside NSW DET
In-Reply-To: <2C5BB7D1-CA64-41D5-A155-DD09B71C00A9@internode.on.net>
References: <4E11F9D6-429C-4B31-9AB9-441BA2CC909E@exemail.com.au>
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I think it is particularly sad when the bureaucracy gets in the way of learning!!

Regards

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Healesville Primary School

View St, Healesville 3777

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Phone: 613 5962 4053
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On 17/08/2011, at 8:09 PM, Jason Bradley wrote:

I think we may have found a solution to this. It isnt so much as the ports as the way some apps (flash) refuse to use the authenticating proxy. We have an iphone 3G using ALL apps behind the firewall. Will test iview and let you know how we go.

Cheers

Jason

On 17/08/2011, at 6:16 PM, Jock Webb wrote:

> In a word mate NO. I have been down this road and this is what I am told by the DEC. BTN on a Mac requires a port which DEC will not allow access to on their network. End of story. It is indeed aggravating and if anyone knows why I don't.
> Sorry to bring bad news
> Jock
>> Hi all,
>> I am having difficulty accessing BTN on Macs when inside NSW DET. Is it possible?
>> Thanks Jim
>> fatalbert at exemail.com.au
>> 
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From corourke at mac.com  Wed Aug 17 22:22:17 2011
From: corourke at mac.com (Chris O'Rourke)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:22:17 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <81136D76-EAB3-47AF-97EA-7F1D7DA327DF@optusnet.com.au>
References: <81136D76-EAB3-47AF-97EA-7F1D7DA327DF@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <5186ADBF-15E5-428D-900A-5F540C575C46@mac.com>

Hello all

Just conducting a bit of a straw poll of high schools which are currently using (or intend to rollout) iPads with a cohort of students.
If you could respond as below  in the next few days I would appreciate it.

My school:
MacKillop College Bathurst NSW
Already rolled out to Year 11 and 12, for 2011 and 2012 (Trial Program), 90 students
Intending to roll out to Year 11 and 12 for 2012 and 2013 (pending result of current trial program), about 90 students

thanks 
Chris


Chris O'Rourke
Creative Arts Coordinator / ICT Committee Chairperson
MacKillop College
Bathurst NSW 2795



From tyrrell.bradley at me.com  Wed Aug 17 22:28:09 2011
From: tyrrell.bradley at me.com (Bradley Tyrrell)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 12:28:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <5186ADBF-15E5-428D-900A-5F540C575C46@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5782af46-9d14-c344-8c64-9fae4ac716a4@me.com>

Hi Chris

This year we rolled out 188 students in a 1:1 capacity for year 10 students. It has been great so far - check out the info at

http://www.kolbe.wa.edu.au/11-ipad-program/

I also have stats every week about usage etc and they dispel a lot of the myths.

Hope this helps

Regards
Bradley Tyrrell
Head of Digital Technology
Kolbe Catholic College
Rockingham WA

On 17 Aug, 2011,at 08:22 PM, Chris O'Rourke <corourke at mac.com> wrote:

Hello all

Just conducting a bit of a straw poll of high schools which are currently using (or intend to rollout) iPads with a cohort of students.
If you could respond as below in the next few days I would appreciate it.

My school:
MacKillop College Bathurst NSW
Already rolled out to Year 11 and 12, for 2011 and 2012 (Trial Program), 90 students
Intending to roll out to Year 11 and 12 for 2012 and 2013 (pending result of current trial program), about 90 students

thanks 
Chris


Chris O'Rourke
Creative Arts Coordinator / ICT Committee Chairperson
MacKillop College
Bathurst NSW 2795


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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Aug 18 07:30:26 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!#now photo software
In-Reply-To: <CA71DBD9.5ADC%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
References: <1313577824.26137.YahooMailNeo@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<CA71DBD9.5ADC%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <1313616626.89620.YahooMailNeo@web112613.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Our photo manipulation needs are fairly modest.
iPhoto, PhotoBooth, KidPixMacKiev, SAM full version inbuilt tools.

________________________________
From: Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!


Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops! True. We still use PS. What do you use instead? I actually can?t live without PS.
XYZ


On 17/08/11 8:43 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:


In the distant past our school used Photoshop.
>That's about it.
>IMHO Adobe learning curves are quite steep - more High School suitable.
>
>
>________________________________
>From:Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
>To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>
>Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops! ?Hi Dave et al
>
>What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on? ?ie what did you used to use?
>
>Chris XYZ
>
>
>On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image, despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
>>There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife, iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
>>When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated as corporate software consumers!
>>One size fits all!
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From:Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
>>To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>>
>>Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so how do they justify the statevwide licence?
>>
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hmm Dave
>>>What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5 too many of the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and refused them . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the till).
>>>BAH
>>>Jock
>>>
>>>This may interest some on this list. :)
>>>>
>>>>http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students-slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>>>
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From coachrobbo at mac.com  Thu Aug 18 11:57:41 2011
From: coachrobbo at mac.com (Simon Robinson)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:57:41 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <5186ADBF-15E5-428D-900A-5F540C575C46@mac.com>
References: <81136D76-EAB3-47AF-97EA-7F1D7DA327DF@optusnet.com.au>
	<5186ADBF-15E5-428D-900A-5F540C575C46@mac.com>
Message-ID: <12903DB9-F284-4D50-8D43-26BE85907E19@mac.com>

Chris,

St Columba's College Essendon
Just over 350 Feb 2011 (every Year 11 and 12 student) 
Rinse and repeat with Year 11 at start of 2012

Simon

On 17/08/2011, at 10:22 PM, Chris O'Rourke wrote:

> Hello all
> 
> Just conducting a bit of a straw poll of high schools which are currently using (or intend to rollout) iPads with a cohort of students.
> If you could respond as below  in the next few days I would appreciate it.
> 
> My school:
> MacKillop College Bathurst NSW
> Already rolled out to Year 11 and 12, for 2011 and 2012 (Trial Program), 90 students
> Intending to roll out to Year 11 and 12 for 2012 and 2013 (pending result of current trial program), about 90 students
> 
> thanks 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Chris O'Rourke
> Creative Arts Coordinator / ICT Committee Chairperson
> MacKillop College
> Bathurst NSW 2795
> 
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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Aug 18 13:12:18 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:12:18 +1000
Subject: [Maced] IWB reversal
In-Reply-To: <a06240800ca6e907b223a@[10.0.0.3]>
References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08451@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>,
	<a06240800ca6e907b223a@[10.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08453@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

Thanks for the IWB reversal problem...
unistall reinstall was the go... seemed like the drivers were dodgy
Glenn Southwell
              at
        The Rail
Albion Park Rail Public
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From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Jock Webb [jocknjo1 at bigpond.com]
Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011 7:03 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] IWB reversal

Hi Glenn
Check the hardware settings in the Control Panel to make sure that no
axis settings have been altered.
That will do it, but also I had one do this last week and an
ill-advised install had been done with resultant version/driver stuff
ups. Uninstalled/reinstalled Notebook the drivers and the issue went
away. Mighty surprising when you first see it though.
Best of Luck
Jock

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From kel at edugator.net.au  Thu Aug 18 23:27:07 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:27:07 +1000
Subject: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
In-Reply-To: <CA71DC3C.44CA%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>
References: <CA71DC3C.44CA%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20110818232707.20106viet8v5whs0@webmail.netregistry.net>

Also have a lok at

http://www.aviaryeducation.com



Quoting Paul Harmon <paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au>:

> Hi Chris,
> Have a look at Pixelmater.
> http://www.pixelmator.com/
> Paul
>
>
> On 17/08/11 8:58 PM, "Chris Skrzeczynski" <cxyz at tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
>> True. We still use PS. What do you use instead? I actually can?t  
>> live without
>> PS.
>> XYZ
>>
>>
>> On 17/08/11 8:43 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> In the distant past our school used Photoshop.
>>> That's about it.
>>> IMHO Adobe learning curves are quite steep - more High School suitable.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au>
>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>>>
>>> Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!  Hi Dave et al
>>>
>>> What Adobe stuff do you choose to not put on?  ie what did you used to use?
>>>
>>> Chris XYZ
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/08/11 7:40 PM, "Dave Hounsell" <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't even bother putting the Adobe stuff on our Deploy Studio image,
>>>> despite the fact the Macs will easily run it.
>>>> There is just so much better simpler and intuitive software (read iLife,
>>>> iWork, Kid Pix, SAM animation, SCRATCH etc) for Primary students.
>>>> When TAFE and Schools merged, suddenly 7 year olds were treated  
>>>> as corporate
>>>> software consumers!
>>>> One size fits all!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 7:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] The wrong Laptops!
>>>>
>>>> Interesting how long it's taken for someone to come out and say that the
>>>> Adobe stuff doesn't run on the netbook. Is that the case? If so  
>>>> how do they
>>>> justify the statevwide licence?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On 17/08/2011, at 4:53 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm Dave
>>>>> What the hell are they paying 2500 for ACERs for????? We have 5  
>>>>> too many of
>>>>> the damned things at my school as it is. I seem to remember that our then
>>>>> DET lords and masters were offered sub 1000 buck macbooks and  
>>>>> refused them
>>>>> . The netbooks are a joke, but it is sad that Rudd gets the blame for our
>>>>> state's poor decision (or perhaps the previous governments hand in the
>>>>> till).
>>>>> BAH
>>>>> Jock
>>>>>> This may interest some on this list. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/rudd-giveaway-gripes-students
>>>>>> -slam-slow-laptops-20110812-1iq3w.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au  Fri Aug 19 11:05:42 2011
From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:35:42 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Apple Profile Manager
Message-ID: <CA73ECFE.673E%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Hi,
Has anyone made a comparison between, eg. Casper and the Apple Profile
Manager. To my inexperienced eye, they look as though they are competing
products.

David
Scotch Adelaide


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From anthonyc5 at optusnet.com.au  Sun Aug 21 21:25:47 2011
From: anthonyc5 at optusnet.com.au (Anthony Citino)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:25:47 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Ipod touch app updates
Message-ID: <CA77285B.D4C3%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>

Hi All,

My daughter has an ipod touch but no wifi. She wants to update a couple of
apps but doesn?t want to lose her scores/levels. If she downloads new
versions to itunes on the local machine, and syncs to the ipod will it over
write the old version, clear her data and start again?

TIA in making one young girl very happy :)
Anthony citino


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From pjhay at pacific.net.au  Sun Aug 21 21:33:06 2011
From: pjhay at pacific.net.au (Pauline Hunt)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:33:06 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Ipod touch app updates
In-Reply-To: <CA77285B.D4C3%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
References: <CA77285B.D4C3%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <7BB3D687-6180-42CB-BF85-43BDE7D7F021@pacific.net.au>

I think she'll be fine Anthony.  The only time I lost my high scores was when my ipod touch was replaced with another one.  Everything synced the same except my high scores 

Regards
Pauline
P.S  I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong.

On 21/08/2011, at 9:25 PM, Anthony Citino wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> My daughter has an ipod touch but no wifi. She wants to update a couple of apps but doesn?t want to lose her scores/levels. If she downloads new versions to itunes on the local machine, and syncs to the ipod will it over write the old version, clear her data and start again?
> 
> TIA in making one young girl very happy :)
> Anthony citino
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Mon Aug 22 08:36:42 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:36:42 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Are Schools are Killing Creativity?
References: <992D84E7-F241-4EF1-939B-2EDB4988575E@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <C78C5235-7250-40F8-BDF2-8538CDD2B9AE@iinet.net.au>

An Old One, but worth thinking about

Are Schools/Education Systems Killing Off Creativity?
we don't grow into creativity, we are educated OUT of it
mustn't be afraid to make mistakes
hierarchy of subjects - creative ones at the bottom
purpose of public education - to produce university professors
Schools only care about above the neck, and only one side of that
don't do music - you are not going to be a musician
schools designed by universities
suddenly degrees aren't worth anything
structure of education is shifting beneath our feet
corpus callosum thicker in women (multitasking)
creativity involves all sectors of the brain interacting
Education system strip-mines our minds
the gift of the human imagination
educate the whole being including the creative capacity

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html



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From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au  Mon Aug 22 10:09:00 2011
From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:39:00 +0930
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <5186ADBF-15E5-428D-900A-5F540C575C46@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CA77B450.67DD%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Hello Chris, Bradley & Simon,
Bradley, your Kolbe documentation is very informative.

It would be great to hear how you are using them and how the iPads are
meeting your initial expectations.

? How are people coping with the document-centric nature of iPads,
compared to computers using a traditional file structure.
? Are ipads meeting your expectations as text book replacements?
? How are students finding them for essay writing, ie. are they adapting
to the onscreen keyboard and is there enough screen real estate left for
effective creative writing?
? Has anyone succeeded in enabling printing across the school network?
? How efficient and effective is it to use webDAV servers to transfer
documents between teachers and students?
? How well do iPads fit into your learning management system?
? How effective is the Dragon Dictate app?
? What are the relative merits of iEtherpad.com and Google Docs?
? Kolbe: Filemaker and DropBox icons in your docco indicate their usage
with students - can you expand?
? Ignoring the current desktop/iPad linkage, are you otherwise finding
that the ipad can be used as a desktop/laptop replacement?

I am coming at this from the context of a 1:1 laptop school, which is
keeping an eye on the ipad as a possible alternative.

Regards,
David Jones
IT Systems Manager
Scotch College Adelaide


On 17/08/11 9:52 PM, "Chris O'Rourke" <corourke at mac.com> wrote:

>Hello all
>
>Just conducting a bit of a straw poll of high schools which are currently
>using (or intend to rollout) iPads with a cohort of students.
>If you could respond as below  in the next few days I would appreciate it.
>
>My school:
>MacKillop College Bathurst NSW
>Already rolled out to Year 11 and 12, for 2011 and 2012 (Trial Program),
>90 students
>Intending to roll out to Year 11 and 12 for 2012 and 2013 (pending result
>of current trial program), about 90 students
>
>thanks 
>Chris
>
>
>Chris O'Rourke
>Creative Arts Coordinator / ICT Committee Chairperson
>MacKillop College
>Bathurst NSW 2795
>
>
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From tyrrell.bradley at me.com  Mon Aug 22 16:21:24 2011
From: tyrrell.bradley at me.com (Bradley Tyrrell)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:21:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <CA77B450.67DD%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <d4723e03-0b13-e47d-ec01-ca8282492a1b@me.com>

Hi David, hopefully the answers I provide to you help. On the 13th of September I will be releasing the first lot of survey results from the students (dispels a lot of the myths of the program from student perspectives). The program has made a dramatic difference to our year 10's engagement and the quality of their work, If you are keen also I invite anyone to come to an open day we having, anyone is most welcome to register and come.?http://www.kolbe.wa.edu.au/mobile-learning-with-ipads/?

How are people coping with the document-centric nature of iPads,
compared to computers using a traditional file structure.

This issue was an interesting one, I guess its a question that the students have not asked me. Generally speaking any work they are producing on the iPad is controlled by the application Goodreader. We use this App for students to put worksheets into and access files from the shared drives. They are able to create a sudo filing structure in the app through the creation of folders for each of their subjects etc. The only time that this might not be true is if they are viewing an ePub or they still have the document in the Pages app itself. Overall its not an issue as such.

? Are ipads meeting your expectations as text book replacements?

At the college the only way have used the iPad at a text book replacement is if the book we have in hard copy has a PDF with it also. Students categorically comment that this is one of the best things about the iPads as they don't have to lug it around anymore, no risk of losing it (we have a book hire system, low socioeconomic) and they always have it with them at home or school. So in just time saved in these things it is more than meeting the expectations.?

?How are students finding them for essay writing, ie. are they adapting
to the onscreen keyboard and is there enough screen real estate left for
effective creative writing?

It was one of the first things we noticed with the program, a student opting to sit typing an essay or document up in front of a desktop computer (i have the picture to prove it). Because the iPad only really allows for one view, either the web or the document for taking the notes (of course unless you have an app) the issue of screen real-estate is not a big issue. If anything we have seen student do it both ways with hand writing notes while viewing a webpage on the iPad or vice versa. I am not sure if I have answered this question in the way you want.

?Has anyone succeeded in enabling printing across the school network?

The simple answer is yes, its not that hard, and it requires a little bit of creativity. We use papercut as our printing client and we have the ability to make them use air print to authenticate to paper cut which charges them and allows them to print just as if it was a laptop. Now... I say this with the following in mind, ?we do not allow at this stage students to print because we feel that while the function is not with our ideal networks of cloud and digital submissions. However, paper cut will be releasing their web print version in late 2011, but I am saying you don't have to wait if you don't want too and I would not rather use a third party app to get paper cut to work when it will have its own solution soon anyway. I can give you more details on this.?

? How efficient and effective is it to use webDAV servers to transfer
documents between teachers and students?

This is highlighly effective, transfer rates to our shared network drives as if you were dragging it from your laptop and good reader again is integrated with webDAV along with pages and keynote (iMovie for some reason does not, really annoying). I would however point out that we use wikis ALOT at the college and find this our number one method for accessing our documents and use webdav for submissions as the wiki 10.6 does not allow editing of a wiki (10.7 does I believe, stay tuned)

? How well do iPads fit into your learning management system?

We don't use one - we use Wikis as a sudo learning management system, each department controls the wikis for its subjects and ALL students have their own wiki for their digital portfolios. Zero cost and great rewards. wiki.kolbe.wa.edu.au or mswiki.kolbe.wa.edu.au or sswiki.kolbe.wa.edu.au

?How effective is the Dragon Dictate app?
?
Who knows, don't use it :) I will ask a student for you :)

? What are the relative merits of?iEtherpad.com?and Google Docs?

This is something we are toying with at the moment, iEtherpad is a great utility for conversations and collaboration and highly recommend it for use with a whole class discussion. The Google Docs issue i think is, in my opinion, like using the wrong tool for the job. Students at Kolbe generally find Pages suits their whole needs and collaboration for these devices is something we are not settled on works well in any system for documents. Conversations we use wikis and blogs for.?

Kolbe: Filemaker and DropBox icons in your docco indicate their usage
with students - can you expand?

I can say that both now are obsolete in the space since i have published that document. We have seen no use, as yet for either of these for our student body as wordpress etc becomes easier to use to create information systems on. wptouch etc?

? Ignoring the current desktop/iPad linkage, are you otherwise finding
that the ipad can be used as a desktop/laptop replacement?

I think that it is important here to point out that we don't believe they are desktop replacements as a 100%. I think in time yes they will be but in my opinion not yet I think that the philosophy we have at kolbe works well for us. In years 7-9 there is an inherent need to have a laptop to learn the skills that are required for the production of documents that represent the creation aspects. In years 10 - 12 we believe that access and consumption is the goal (forced on us by exams) so the iPad suits that role better. I think it is important to point out too that this space changes a lot, we forget that it is only the second generation and I think that the end of 2012 will be a very different picture. Creation will get better on the iPad and something else will come up. It is really about the right tool for the right job at the time and be willing to ensure that content is the main thing that is being taught in what ever package it may come in.?

Sorry for being a little preachy but it is my passion and I have seen the positive impact that this has had with some of our students engagement in the classroom. It is amazing how many new friends I have :)

Regards
Bradley Tyrrell
Head of Digital Technology
Kolbe Catholic College
Rockingham WA

On 22 Aug, 2011,at 08:09 AM, David Jones <djones at scotch.sa.edu.au> wrote:

Hello Chris, Bradley & Simon,
Bradley, your Kolbe documentation is very informative.

It would be great to hear how you are using them and how the iPads are
meeting your initial expectations.

? How are people coping with the document-centric nature of iPads,
compared to computers using a traditional file structure.
? Are ipads meeting your expectations as text book replacements?
? How are students finding them for essay writing, ie. are they adapting
to the onscreen keyboard and is there enough screen real estate left for
effective creative writing?
? Has anyone succeeded in enabling printing across the school network?
? How efficient and effective is it to use webDAV servers to transfer
documents between teachers and students?
? How well do iPads fit into your learning management system?
? How effective is the Dragon Dictate app?
? What are the relative merits of iEtherpad.com and Google Docs?
? Kolbe: Filemaker and DropBox icons in your docco indicate their usage
with students - can you expand?
? Ignoring the current desktop/iPad linkage, are you otherwise finding
that the ipad can be used as a desktop/laptop replacement?

I am coming at this from the context of a 1:1 laptop school, which is
keeping an eye on the ipad as a possible alternative.

Regards,
David Jones
IT Systems Manager
Scotch College Adelaide


On 17/08/11 9:52 PM, "Chris O'Rourke" <corourke at mac.com> wrote:

>Hello all
>
>Just conducting a bit of a straw poll of high schools which are currently
>using (or intend to rollout) iPads with a cohort of students.
>If you could respond as below in the next few days I would appreciate it.
>
>My school:
>MacKillop College Bathurst NSW
>Already rolled out to Year 11 and 12, for 2011 and 2012 (Trial Program),
>90 students
>Intending to roll out to Year 11 and 12 for 2012 and 2013 (pending result
>of current trial program), about 90 students
>
>thanks 
>Chris
>
>
>Chris O'Rourke
>Creative Arts Coordinator / ICT Committee Chairperson
>MacKillop College
>Bathurst NSW 2795
>
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From bryn.jones99 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 17:59:48 2011
From: bryn.jones99 at gmail.com (Bryn Jones)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:59:48 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Safari Crashing
Message-ID: <CAOngzJcprY7yonQkiRz_O+95wnVa9HNYiTLMt2VLYwMdNUjqvQ@mail.gmail.com>

Oh Wise Ones

recently I seem to have more crashes of Safari requiring Force Quit
5.1 on OS 10.6.8
Mostly use
Skype shared screen
Salesforce
Gmail
but can't pin it down to any particular one

I've done Drive Permissions

Anywhere else I should look

Bryn

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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Mon Aug 22 19:05:50 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 02:05:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] HP for $100
In-Reply-To: <d4723e03-0b13-e47d-ec01-ca8282492a1b@me.com>
References: <CA77B450.67DD%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>
	<d4723e03-0b13-e47d-ec01-ca8282492a1b@me.com>
Message-ID: <1314003950.8452.YahooMailNeo@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>



<Reviewers panned the device, which faces tough competition from the iPad and several Google Android-based rivals.Some liked the webOS software but hated the hardware. Indeed, HP's own webOS team?reportedly hacked?an iPad 2 to run webOS and found it ran twice as fast on Apple's offering than the TouchPad.

Read more:?http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/hp-touchpad-fire-sale-slashed-from-499-to-99-in-a-week-20110822-1j63s.html#ixzz1VkLE2znq>





http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/tablets/hp-touchpad-fire-sale-slashed-from-499-to-99-in-a-week-20110822-1j63s.html
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From paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au  Mon Aug 22 20:38:08 2011
From: paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au (Paul Harmon)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:38:08 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Safari Crashing
In-Reply-To: <CAOngzJcprY7yonQkiRz_O+95wnVa9HNYiTLMt2VLYwMdNUjqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA786EB0.461D%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>

Hey Bryn,
Have you tried a Clear Cache and Rest Safari under the Safari menu.
You could also try dumping the .plist in your user/library/preferences.
Paul


On 22/08/11 5:59 PM, "Bryn Jones" <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh Wise Ones
> 
> recently I seem to have more crashes of Safari requiring Force Quit
> 5.1 on OS 10.6.8
> Mostly use
> Skype shared screen
> Salesforce
> Gmail
> but can't pin it down to any particular one
> 
> I've done Drive Permissions
> 
> Anywhere else I should look
> 
> Bryn

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From wazmac at me.com  Mon Aug 22 21:13:32 2011
From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:13:32 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Test
Message-ID: <ECF2F754-12EC-49F9-84CC-80308FD740A3@me.com>

Please ignore.


From bryn.jones99 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 22 22:07:38 2011
From: bryn.jones99 at gmail.com (Bryn Jones)
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:07:38 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Safari Crashing
In-Reply-To: <CA786EB0.461D%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>
References: <CA786EB0.461D%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>
Message-ID: <F93F5B43-D3C8-4D50-A36A-0ABD85614375@gmail.com>

No but I will 

Thanks

Bryn

On 22/08/2011, at 6:38 PM, Paul Harmon <paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au> wrote:

> Hey Bryn,
> Have you tried a Clear Cache and Rest Safari under the Safari menu.
> You could also try dumping the .plist in your user/library/preferences.
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 22/08/11 5:59 PM, "Bryn Jones" <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh Wise Ones
>> 
>> recently I seem to have more crashes of Safari requiring Force Quit
>> 5.1 on OS 10.6.8
>> Mostly use
>> Skype shared screen
>> Salesforce
>> Gmail
>> but can't pin it down to any particular one
>> 
>> I've done Drive Permissions
>> 
>> Anywhere else I should look
>> 
>> Bryn
> 
> --
> Paul Harmon
> ICLT Coordinator
> St Leo's Catholic College
> Wahroonga NSW
> Mob: 0407 016604
> Ph: 02 9487 3555
> Fax: 02 9487 2637
> Email: paul.harmon at dbb.catholic.edu.au
> 
> 
> 
> GO MAKE DISCIPLES - as the Diocese of Broken Bay celebrates 25 years, take part in our Synod 
> Visit www.dbb.org.au/ourdiocese/synod for more information.
> 
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From anthonyc5 at optusnet.com.au  Tue Aug 23 20:17:13 2011
From: anthonyc5 at optusnet.com.au (Anthony Citino)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:17:13 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Ipod touch app updates
In-Reply-To: <7BB3D687-6180-42CB-BF85-43BDE7D7F021@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <CA79BB49.D504%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>

Thanks Pauline,

I?ll give it a go
regards
Anthony citino



From: Pauline Hunt <pjhay at pacific.net.au>
Reply-To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:33:06 +1000
To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Maced] Ipod touch app updates

I think she'll be fine Anthony.  The only time I lost my high scores was
when my ipod touch was replaced with another one.  Everything synced the
same except my high scores

Regards
Pauline
P.S  I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong.

On 21/08/2011, at 9:25 PM, Anthony Citino wrote:

> Ipod touch app updates
> Hi All,
> 
> My daughter has an ipod touch but no wifi. She wants to update a couple of
> apps but doesn?t want to lose her scores/levels. If she downloads new versions
> to itunes on the local machine, and syncs to the ipod will it over write the
> old version, clear her data and start again?
> 
> TIA in making one young girl very happy :)
> Anthony citino
> 
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Wed Aug 24 00:18:01 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:18:01 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Search facility
In-Reply-To: <F93F5B43-D3C8-4D50-A36A-0ABD85614375@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA79F3B9.5B1F%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

Hi All

Seeking info and suggestions. I have a collection of school photos in a
website made in Dreamweaver. This site is not stored on a local server or in
cyberspace. It will be burnt to a CD/DVD and given to students. Is it
possible to create a search facility within this site so students can search
for their name and find all its occurrences in the website?

I have looked at search facilities online, like Free Find and others but I
think they only work for sites hosted in cyberspace, obviously so the search
facility can locate the website.

Do I need to set up a database (FileMakerPro type of thing?) If so, is there
a source of info somewhere (book/website/other) that will tell me how to do
this? 

I think this is a BIG question! Any hints would be appreciated.

TIA
Chris XYZ

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Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053 | Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855
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From mallee at mac.com  Wed Aug 24 12:03:20 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:03:20 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Examples of open class blogs
Message-ID: <D82DACE5-5462-49FA-8850-70E12514C64E@mac.com>

Dear colleagues

Am after several more examples of schools that have normalised the everyday use of open class blogs into their operations.

Need them for work I'm doing on a new publication.

By 'open' I'm referring to those situations where any one from any where in the networked world can readily see what the kids are doing - not those requiring a parent log in

And while i appreciate a number of you have your own library blog it is the insight into the classroom teaching I'm after

If you can help would love to hear from you

Kind regards

Mal Lee

Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW  2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44717 947






From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Aug 24 16:42:45 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:42:45 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Ultranet
Message-ID: <4445FD0D-19E7-4990-80C2-027088FE078E@mac.com>

Hi all
I heard a rumour today that an independent education sector were thinking of ultranet as their LMS. 

Anyone know something?

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

From bryn.jones99 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 16:57:52 2011
From: bryn.jones99 at gmail.com (Bryn Jones)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:57:52 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Ultranet
In-Reply-To: <4445FD0D-19E7-4990-80C2-027088FE078E@mac.com>
References: <4445FD0D-19E7-4990-80C2-027088FE078E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <564282BF-B992-47B1-B3CD-55DBD68981CD@gmail.com>

I know that it has been presented to Catholics. 

Regards

Bryn

On 24/08/2011, at 2:42 PM, Wes Warner <wicked_wes at mac.com> wrote:

> Hi all
> I heard a rumour today that an independent education sector were thinking of ultranet as their LMS. 
> 
> Anyone know something?
> 
> Wes Warner
> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
> Head of Technology
> Genesis Christian College
> @I_Teach_ICT
> Sent from my iPhone
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From kel at edugator.net.au  Wed Aug 24 17:10:58 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:10:58 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Ultranet
In-Reply-To: <564282BF-B992-47B1-B3CD-55DBD68981CD@gmail.com>
References: <4445FD0D-19E7-4990-80C2-027088FE078E@mac.com>
	<564282BF-B992-47B1-B3CD-55DBD68981CD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110824171058.345155ebafx6srgg@webmail.netregistry.net>

In the ACT both the State and Catholic systems have opted to use  
Learnology's cLc (which has now been upgraded to LIFE) as their LS. We  
both made the decision independent of each other which was interesting.

We chose it because it is not a restrictive top down management system  
like most of the LMS's we looked at. LIFE has all those management  
features but it is a far more collaborative environment. The schools  
that have taken it on already are quite enthusiastic about it. As such  
we prefer to think of it as our new TLS- Teaching and Learning System.

Regards

Kel



Quoting Bryn Jones <bryn.jones99 at gmail.com>:

> I know that it has been presented to Catholics.
>
> Regards
>
> Bryn
>
> On 24/08/2011, at 2:42 PM, Wes Warner <wicked_wes at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>> I heard a rumour today that an independent education sector were  
>> thinking of ultranet as their LMS.
>>
>> Anyone know something?
>>
>> Wes Warner
>> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
>> Head of Technology
>> Genesis Christian College
>> @I_Teach_ICT
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Thu Aug 25 09:29:04 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:29:04 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Steve Jobs Steps Down
Message-ID: <11CC1657-0204-44E3-ADFD-0193BF052F29@iinet.net.au>

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/08/24/breaking-steve-jobs-resigns-from-apple/


Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
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From wazmac at me.com  Thu Aug 25 09:31:21 2011
From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:31:21 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Steve Jobs quits as Apple CEO
Message-ID: <F9DFEB7B-A57F-42AF-ADAE-4DA8054398D1@me.com>

 http://bit.ly/oOIX6l

Warren


From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Aug 25 11:25:21 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] iPad School licensing
In-Reply-To: <F93F5B43-D3C8-4D50-A36A-0ABD85614375@gmail.com>
References: <CA786EB0.461D%paul.harmon@dbb.catholic.edu.au>
	<F93F5B43-D3C8-4D50-A36A-0ABD85614375@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1314235521.78255.YahooMailNeo@web112609.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>





________________________________
http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/au/terms.html#APPS


<(ii) If you are a commercial enterprise or educational institution, you may download and sync an App Store Product for use by either (a) a single individual on one or more iOS Devices used by that individual that you own or control or (b) multiple individuals, on a single shared iOS Device you own or control. For example, a single employee may use an App Store Product on both the employee's iPhone and iPad, or multiple students may serially use an App Store Product on a single iPad located at a resource center or library. For the sake of clarity, each iOS Device used serially by multiple users requires a separate license.>

This clause makes it very difficult for schools to manage fleets of iPads, because each iPad needs a discrete iTunes account.

Why is volume licensing not available in Australia - or have I missed something?

Some software companies allow schools to purchase two copies of their Application and this constitutes a site licence (eg Maths Circus).

Now, wouldn't that be a wonderful thing on the App store!?

Cheers

Dave
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From adamvr at tpg.com.au  Thu Aug 25 13:45:32 2011
From: adamvr at tpg.com.au (Adam van Raad)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:45:32 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPod Touch Question
Message-ID: <B3336901-69D8-4E13-B174-4E677ED27AD5@tpg.com.au>

Hi,

We have 60 iPod Touch's on trial from Apple and we would like to download some music apps to make up an iPod orchestra as a demonstration project. Just wondering what is the quickest and easiest way to get a paid app onto 60 iPods... considering we have to give them back in a few weeks. We have a school iTunes account but would I need to create 60 accounts and sync each one? Not sure which way to go with this. Hope someone can give me some ideas.

Thanks in advance
Adam




Adam van Raad
IT Support
St Matthews Catholic School Mudgee
a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au
www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au

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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Aug 25 14:59:39 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:59:39 +1000
Subject: [Maced] password changing
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08464@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

Can standard staff change children's passwords?
If so how?



    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail 

Albion Park Rail Public School
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Aug 25 15:12:59 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:12:59 +1000
Subject: [Maced] password changing
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Any staff member can be allocated the ability to change a student's Portal password. This is done by the principal or delegate through AMU in Portal.

Greg



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Can standard staff change children's passwords?
If so how?



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Albion Park Rail Public School
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From kel at edugator.net.au  Thu Aug 25 16:29:46 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:29:46 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Examples of open class blogs
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Hi Mal

We are looking at the daily use go blogs and wikis within each of our  
classrooms but it it not in the open in terms of anyone across the  
world access.

We have taken on a new Learning System based on collaborative  
practices hence we disregarded anything that called itself an LMS. We  
wanted our new system to be the opposite of a top down LMS.

So our teachers and students are being encouraged to collaborate in  
this way but it is an open world within a protective wall. But within  
that wall their work can be opened to as many people as they want,  
anywhere in the world - if they use the same LS.

We ultimately want this to beak down the distance barriers across our  
archdiocese and create more collaborative practices within and across  
schools. The process is quite transparent with parents having access  
as well.

Nor sure if this is what you are looking for . . .


Quoting Mal Lee <mallee at mac.com>:

> Dear colleagues
>
> Am after several more examples of schools that have normalised the  
> everyday use of open class blogs into their operations.
>
> Need them for work I'm doing on a new publication.
>
> By 'open' I'm referring to those situations where any one from any  
> where in the networked world can readily see what the kids are doing  
> - not those requiring a parent log in
>
> And while i appreciate a number of you have your own library blog it  
> is the insight into the classroom teaching I'm after
>
> If you can help would love to hear from you
>
> Kind regards
>
> Mal Lee
>
> Author/educational consultant
> PO Box 5010 Broulee
> NSW  2537 Australia
> http://malleehome.com
> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947
>
>
>
>
>
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From mallee at mac.com  Thu Aug 25 16:56:16 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:56:16 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Apologies to Kel and members
Message-ID: <E389A7DD-7A15-49A9-A72F-C50BBD7B9DCA@mac.com>

Kel/colleagues

Forward apologies for a post I was intending to send to only Kel - and so was a wee bit flippant 

Related to my quest to secure examples of whole schools that were using open class blogs 

The reason for the ask is that is becoming increasingly apparent that usage is becoming an increasingly good indicator of where the school - and in particular primary schools are at on the school evolutionary continuum - that move from a paper base - to digital - to networked mode

Use of them within walled learning platforms is very different philosophically - particularly as relates to the desired collaboration with their total community

The whole of school use of class blogs communicates a couple of key developments

a. the school/leadership is willing to open its everyday operations - and indeed every teacher's work - to open scrutiny. It is willing to be accountable on a daily basis

b. all the teachers in the school have normalised the everyday use of the digital in their teaching and are ready - attitudinally and competence wise - to collaborate with the outside world - which as Jeannie MacKenzie's work on home-school collaboration is still rare

c. there is a school leader who has succeeded in moving all the staff to the networked mode

d invariably it also means that every classroom - and teacher - has the digital wherewithal in the room to integrate the use of the blog/wiki into their teaching

Again apologies

Mal Lee

PS - great lesson of never hitting the send key when having a wine!



Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW  2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44717 947






From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au  Fri Aug 26 09:35:29 2011
From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:05:29 +0930
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <d4723e03-0b13-e47d-ec01-ca8282492a1b@me.com>
Message-ID: <CA7D09A1.68DA%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Bradley,
Thanks for the time you've put into responding. There's a lot there to
ponder.
See some notes in red below.
Keep up the good work and it would be great if you can keep us informed.
David

From:  Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
Reply-To:  MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Date:  Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:21:24 +0000 (GMT)
To:  MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Subject:  Re: [Maced] iPad straw poll

Hi David, hopefully the answers I provide to you help. On the 13th of
September I will be releasing the first lot of survey results from the
students (dispels a lot of the myths of the program from student
perspectives). 
> If you could share some of your findings, either on Maced or by email, that
> would be great.

The program has made a dramatic difference to our year 10's engagement and
the quality of their work, If you are keen also I invite anyone to come to
an open day we having, anyone is most welcome to register and come.
http://www.kolbe.wa.edu.au/mobile-learning-with-ipads/

> How are people coping with the document-centric nature of iPads,
> compared to computers using a traditional file structure.

This issue was an interesting one, I guess its a question that the students
have not asked me Generally speaking any work they are producing on the iPad
is controlled by the application Goodreader. We use this App for students to
put worksheets into and access files from the shared drives. They are able
to create a sudo filing structure in the app through the creation of folders
for each of their subjects etc. The only time that this might not be true is
if they are viewing an ePub or they still have the document in the Pages app
itself. Overall its not an issue as such.

> I hadn't used GoodReader before, so have been playing with it. Interesting
> app. It's a pity Apple hasn't so far made Pages more open in its ability to
> transfer docs to other apps.
> 
> ? Are ipads meeting your expectations as text book replacements?

At the college the only way have used the iPad at a text book replacement is
if the book we have in hard copy has a PDF with it also. Students
categorically comment that this is one of the best things about the iPads as
they don't have to lug it around anymore, no risk of losing it (we have a
book hire system, low socioeconomic) and they always have it with them at
home or school. So in just time saved in these things it is more than
meeting the expectations.

>  How are students finding them for essay writing, ie. are they adapting
> to the onscreen keyboard and is there enough screen real estate left for
> effective creative writing?

It was one of the first things we noticed with the program, a student opting
to sit typing an essay or document up in front of a desktop computer (i have
the picture to prove it). Because the iPad only really allows for one view,
either the web or the document for taking the notes (of course unless you
have an app) the issue of screen real-estate is not a big issue. If anything
we have seen student do it both ways with hand writing notes while viewing a
webpage on the iPad or vice versa. I am not sure if I have answered this
question in the way you want.

> Are you saying that students generally use ipads more for note taking than for
> writing longer pieces, eg. essays?

>  Has anyone succeeded in enabling printing across the school network?

The simple answer is yes, its not that hard, and it requires a little bit of
creativity. We use papercut as our printing client and we have the ability
to make them use air print to authenticate to paper cut which charges them
and allows them to print just as if it was a laptop. Now... I say this with
the following in mind,  we do not allow at this stage students to print
because we feel that while the function is not with our ideal networks of
cloud and digital submissions. However, paper cut will be releasing their
web print version in late 2011, but I am saying you don't have to wait if
you don't want too and I would not rather use a third party app to get paper
cut to work when it will have its own solution soon anyway. I can give you
more details on this.

> We use Papercut, but hadn't investigated web print. However, the ios client
> should be a much better option.

> ? How efficient and effective is it to use webDAV servers to transfer
> documents between teachers and students?

This is highlighly effective, transfer rates to our shared network drives as
if you were dragging it from your laptop and good reader again is integrated
with webDAV along with pages and keynote (iMovie for some reason does not,
really annoying). I would however point out that we use wikis ALOT at the
college and find this our number one method for accessing our documents and
use webdav for submissions as the wiki 10.6 does not allow editing of a wiki
(10.7 does I believe, stay tuned)

> Excellent

Sorry for being a little preachy but it is my passion and I have seen the
positive impact that this has had with some of our students engagement in
the classroom.
> Don't worry about being preachy ? we are constantly re-evaluating how we use
> IT in the school, so it's great to hear how others do it.

 It is amazing how many new friends I have :)

Regards
Bradley Tyrrell
Head of Digital Technology
Kolbe Catholic College
Rockingham WA



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From tyrrell.bradley at me.com  Fri Aug 26 11:40:04 2011
From: tyrrell.bradley at me.com (Bradley Tyrrell)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:40:04 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
In-Reply-To: <CA7D09A1.68DA%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20a2e26e-4047-665f-efe4-b9a3e0b2792b@me.com>

Morning All,?

No issues with the sharing, we are all on the journey together and the work done by myself and the staff at Kolbe college will be shared with all. On the 13th I will release a large selection of findings for the Australian Community to use.

I hadn't used GoodReader before, so have been playing with it. Interesting app. It's a pity Apple hasn't so far made Pages more open in its ability to transfer docs to other apps.
Some of the more interesting aspect for these apps are to come, with no update for a while I crystal ball a radical change for this in the not to distant
future.
Are you saying that students generally use ipads more for note taking than for writing longer pieces, eg. essays?
In the main yes, but again more and more I think this is change, next weeks survey is based on curriculum and focus on use by department, going to be very interesting.
A question I have to the community is if anyone has got any stats on grade improvements with the  iPads. We only have 1 assessment last year compared to this year so far but curious about others statistics on this topic.

Regards
Bradley Tyrrell
Head of Digital Technology
Kolbe Catholic College
Rockingham WA
iChat: tyrrell.bradley at me.com
www.tyrrell.net.au

On 26 Aug, 2011,at 07:35 AM, David Jones <djones at scotch.sa.edu.au> wrote:

Bradley,
Thanks for the time you've put into responding. There's a lot there to ponder.
See some notes in red below
Keep up the good work and it would be great if you can keep us informed.
David

From: Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
Reply-To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:21:24 +0000 (GMT)
To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Maced] iPad straw poll

Hi David, hopefully the answers I provide to you help. On the 13th of September I will be releasing the first lot of survey results from the students (dispels a lot of the myths of the program from student perspectives).
If you could share some of your findings, either on Maced or by email, that would be great.

The program has made a dramatic difference to our year 10's engagement and the quality of their work, If you are keen also I invite anyone to come to an open day we having, anyone is most welcome to register and come.?http://www.kolbe.wa.edu.au/mobile-learning-with-ipads/?

How are people coping with the document-centric nature of iPads,
compared to computers using a traditional file structure.

This issue was an interesting one, I guess its a question that the students have not asked me Generally speaking any work they are producing on the iPad is controlled by the application Goodreader. We use this App for students to put worksheets into and access files from the shared drives. They are able to create a sudo filing structure in the app through the creation of folders for each of their subjects etc. The only time that this might not be true is if they are viewing an ePub or they still have the document in the Pages app itself. Overall its not an issue as such.

I hadn't used GoodReader before, so have been playing with it. Interesting app. It's a pity Apple hasn't so far made Pages more open in its ability to transfer docs to other apps.

? Are ipads meeting your expectations as text book replacements?

At the college the only way have used the iPad at a text book replacement is if the book we have in hard copy has a PDF with it also. Students categorically comment that this is one of the best things about the iPads as they don't have to lug it around anymore, no risk of losing it (we have a book hire system, low socioeconomic) and they always have it with them at home or school. So in just time saved in these things it is more than meeting the expectations.?

?How are students finding them for essay writing, ie. are they adapting
to the onscreen keyboard and is there enough screen real estate left for
effective creative writing?

It was one of the first things we noticed with the program, a student opting to sit typing an essay or document up in front of a desktop computer (i have the picture to prove it). Because the iPad only really allows for one view, either the web or the document for taking the notes (of course unless you have an app) the issue of screen real-estate is not a big issue. If anything we have seen student do it both ways with hand writing notes while viewing a webpage on the iPad or vice versa. I am not sure if I have answered this question in the way you want.

Are you saying that students generally use ipads more for note taking than for writing longer pieces, eg. essays?

?Has anyone succeeded in enabling printing across the school network?

The simple answer is yes, its not that hard, and it requires a little bit of creativity. We use papercut as our printing client and we have the ability to make them use air print to authenticate to paper cut which charges them and allows them to print just as if it was a laptop. Now... I say this with the following in mind, ?we do not allow at this stage students to print because we feel that while the function is not with our ideal networks of cloud and digital submissions. However, paper cut will be releasing their web print version in late 2011, but I am saying you don't have to wait if you don't want too and I would not rather use a third party app to get paper cut to work when it will have its own solution soon anyway. I can give you more details on this.?

We use Papercut, but hadn't investigated web print. However, the ios client should be a much better option.

? How efficient and effective is it to use webDAV servers to transfer
documents between teachers and students?

This is highlighly effective, transfer rates to our shared network drives as if you were dragging it from your laptop and good reader again is integrated with webDAV along with pages and keynote (iMovie for some reason does not, really annoying). I would however point out that we use wikis ALOT at the college and find this our number one method for accessing our documents and use webdav for submissions as the wiki 10.6 does not allow editing of a wiki (10.7 does I believe, stay tuned)

Excellent

Sorry for being a little preachy but it is my passion and I have seen the positive impact that this has had with some of our students engagement in the classroom.
Don't worry about being preachy ? we are constantly re-evaluating how we use IT in the school, so it's great to hear how others do it.

It is amazing how many new friends I have :)

Regards
Bradley Tyrrell
Head of Digital Technology
Kolbe Catholic College
Rockingham WA

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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Mon Aug 29 07:02:43 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:02:43 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Google Translate
Message-ID: <F9F0725A-4817-402B-B40B-F79175DFAFB3@optusnet.com.au>


Can anyone tell me why Google Translate will not work on my school website. The website is made with iWeb and I have a suspicion that this is the reason but I would like to confirm this. Would really like to provide a translation service for our many ESL families.

John

From wazmac at me.com  Mon Aug 29 07:57:56 2011
From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 07:57:56 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Google Translate
In-Reply-To: <F9F0725A-4817-402B-B40B-F79175DFAFB3@optusnet.com.au>
References: <F9F0725A-4817-402B-B40B-F79175DFAFB3@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <C039BCB3-2CEA-4232-91AF-13609385A061@me.com>

Hi John,

Just taking a punt here, but I think iWeb converts 'non-standard' text to images. This includes any non-web fonts. And of course images aren't able to be translated. 

I notice that I can't highlight 'n' copy the text on your page - it is just one block image. Obviously the headings with the drop-shadows are images too, so won't be able to be translated.

Not sure what font you have used, but maybe try a 'web-standard' font such as Arial and see if that publishes as 'text', rather than as an image?

Warren



On 29/08/2011, at 7:02 AM, John Akhurst wrote:

> 
> Can anyone tell me why Google Translate will not work on my school website. The website is made with iWeb and I have a suspicion that this is the reason but I would like to confirm this. Would really like to provide a translation service for our many ESL families.
> 
> John
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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Mon Aug 29 18:27:26 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:27:26 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Google Translate
In-Reply-To: <C039BCB3-2CEA-4232-91AF-13609385A061@me.com>
References: <F9F0725A-4817-402B-B40B-F79175DFAFB3@optusnet.com.au>
	<C039BCB3-2CEA-4232-91AF-13609385A061@me.com>
Message-ID: <6A733480-ABA5-438D-87B1-ADCE8058BAAC@optusnet.com.au>

Thanks Wazza will give Arial a go.

John


On 29/08/2011, at 7:57 AM, Warren McCullough wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> Just taking a punt here, but I think iWeb converts 'non-standard' text to images. This includes any non-web fonts. And of course images aren't able to be translated. 
> 
> I notice that I can't highlight 'n' copy the text on your page - it is just one block image. Obviously the headings with the drop-shadows are images too, so won't be able to be translated.
> 
> Not sure what font you have used, but maybe try a 'web-standard' font such as Arial and see if that publishes as 'text', rather than as an image?
> 
> Warren
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/08/2011, at 7:02 AM, John Akhurst wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me why Google Translate will not work on my school website. The website is made with iWeb and I have a suspicion that this is the reason but I would like to confirm this. Would really like to provide a translation service for our many ESL families.
>> 
>> John
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Mon Aug 29 20:40:38 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:40:38 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Apologies to Kel and members
In-Reply-To: <E389A7DD-7A15-49A9-A72F-C50BBD7B9DCA@mac.com>
References: <E389A7DD-7A15-49A9-A72F-C50BBD7B9DCA@mac.com>
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F35720A@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

Is there a LIKE button for this..

    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail

Albion Park Rail Public School
________________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mal Lee [mallee at mac.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 4:56 PM
To: MacEd for educators
Subject: [Maced] Apologies to Kel and members

Kel/colleagues

Forward apologies for a post I was intending to send to only Kel - and so was a wee bit flippant

Related to my quest to secure examples of whole schools that were using open class blogs

The reason for the ask is that is becoming increasingly apparent that usage is becoming an increasingly good indicator of where the school - and in particular primary schools are at on the school evolutionary continuum - that move from a paper base - to digital - to networked mode

Use of them within walled learning platforms is very different philosophically - particularly as relates to the desired collaboration with their total community

The whole of school use of class blogs communicates a couple of key developments

a. the school/leadership is willing to open its everyday operations - and indeed every teacher's work - to open scrutiny. It is willing to be accountable on a daily basis

b. all the teachers in the school have normalised the everyday use of the digital in their teaching and are ready - attitudinally and competence wise - to collaborate with the outside world - which as Jeannie MacKenzie's work on home-school collaboration is still rare

c. there is a school leader who has succeeded in moving all the staff to the networked mode

d invariably it also means that every classroom - and teacher - has the digital wherewithal in the room to integrate the use of the blog/wiki into their teaching

Again apologies

Mal Lee

PS - great lesson of never hitting the send key when having a wine!



Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW  2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44717 947





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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Mon Aug 29 22:12:07 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:12:07 +0800
Subject: [Maced] iBooks
Message-ID: <D8419D63-06FE-4C05-93FB-6C1175CC255D@iinet.net.au>

Hi MACEDers
My English head wants to know can we install iBooks on the kids macbooks.
She likes the recording features that allow her to keep summaries of books read.
I think the answer is it only runs on iphone/ipad.
Anyone know of something that does that on macbooks?
ta
blitto


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From jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au  Mon Aug 29 22:29:16 2011
From: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au (James Humberstone, MLC School)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:29:16 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iBooks
In-Reply-To: <D8419D63-06FE-4C05-93FB-6C1175CC255D@iinet.net.au>
References: <D8419D63-06FE-4C05-93FB-6C1175CC255D@iinet.net.au>
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Gerday Blitto,

This is one of my causes! Unfortunately there is no iBooks for the Mac and so far iTunes does not read iBooks either.

Because iBooks uses the ePub standard there are a number of MacBook apps (Adobe Digital Editions, Calibre to name two) which will allow you to read ePubs you've made yourself but you may not have luck with ones you've purchased. But the bigger problem is that while Apple have kept to the standards (ePub is basically just zipped HTML with a specific internal folder structure) none of the Mac solutions read the video and audio that you can put in Pages-authored ePub. 

This is the only thing stopping me moving to ePub as standard for all my resources... not having a compatible MacOS reader in a 1-to-1 Mac school means it's not worth the work. A huge shame because the media capabilities make it a better solution than PDF etc. for resourcing and for kids to publish their own stuff. And iBooks is sexy! OK you can't write something like that without sounding like the biggest geek ever.

[I hate to say it but Kindle may be a better way to go if you don't want to wait for Apple to sort this out or someone else to make a better reader for Mac OS. Reads a number of formats including the open .mobi format, and there is a Kindle app for Mac, PC, iPad, iPhone even Android I think. :( ]

Cheers,
James

On 29/08/2011, at 10:12 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> My English head wants to know can we install iBooks on the kids macbooks.
> She likes the recording features that allow her to keep summaries of books read.
> I think the answer is it only runs on iphone/ipad.
> Anyone know of something that does that on macbooks?
> ta
> blitto
> 
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Tue Aug 30 06:49:36 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:49:36 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iBooks
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I use the ePub reader extension on Firefox on the Mac. THere is also the open source Calibre

Greg


On 29/08/2011, at 10:29 PM, James Humberstone, MLC School wrote:

Gerday Blitto,

This is one of my causes! Unfortunately there is no iBooks for the Mac and so far iTunes does not read iBooks either.

Because iBooks uses the ePub standard there are a number of MacBook apps (Adobe Digital Editions, Calibre to name two) which will allow you to read ePubs you've made yourself but you may not have luck with ones you've purchased. But the bigger problem is that while Apple have kept to the standards (ePub is basically just zipped HTML with a specific internal folder structure) none of the Mac solutions read the video and audio that you can put in Pages-authored ePub.

This is the only thing stopping me moving to ePub as standard for all my resources... not having a compatible MacOS reader in a 1-to-1 Mac school means it's not worth the work. A huge shame because the media capabilities make it a better solution than PDF etc. for resourcing and for kids to publish their own stuff. And iBooks is sexy! OK you can't write something like that without sounding like the biggest geek ever.

[I hate to say it but Kindle may be a better way to go if you don't want to wait for Apple to sort this out or someone else to make a better reader for Mac OS. Reads a number of formats including the open .mobi format, and there is a Kindle app for Mac, PC, iPad, iPhone even Android I think. :( ]

Cheers,
James

On 29/08/2011, at 10:12 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

Hi MACEDers
My English head wants to know can we install iBooks on the kids macbooks.
She likes the recording features that allow her to keep summaries of books read.
I think the answer is it only runs on iphone/ipad.
Anyone know of something that does that on macbooks?
ta
blitto

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From mallee at mac.com  Tue Aug 30 07:56:55 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:56:55 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iBooks
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James

Probably the easiest ePub facility is within Pages

It is dead simple to use

Cheers

Mal
On 30/08/2011, at 6:49 AM, Norris, Greg wrote:

> I use the ePub reader extension on Firefox on the Mac. THere is also the open source Calibre
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On 29/08/2011, at 10:29 PM, James Humberstone, MLC School wrote:
> 
> Gerday Blitto,
> 
> This is one of my causes! Unfortunately there is no iBooks for the Mac and so far iTunes does not read iBooks either.
> 
> Because iBooks uses the ePub standard there are a number of MacBook apps (Adobe Digital Editions, Calibre to name two) which will allow you to read ePubs you've made yourself but you may not have luck with ones you've purchased. But the bigger problem is that while Apple have kept to the standards (ePub is basically just zipped HTML with a specific internal folder structure) none of the Mac solutions read the video and audio that you can put in Pages-authored ePub.
> 
> This is the only thing stopping me moving to ePub as standard for all my resources... not having a compatible MacOS reader in a 1-to-1 Mac school means it's not worth the work. A huge shame because the media capabilities make it a better solution than PDF etc. for resourcing and for kids to publish their own stuff. And iBooks is sexy! OK you can't write something like that without sounding like the biggest geek ever.
> 
> [I hate to say it but Kindle may be a better way to go if you don't want to wait for Apple to sort this out or someone else to make a better reader for Mac OS. Reads a number of formats including the open .mobi format, and there is a Kindle app for Mac, PC, iPad, iPhone even Android I think. :( ]
> 
> Cheers,
> James
> 
> On 29/08/2011, at 10:12 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
> 
> Hi MACEDers
> My English head wants to know can we install iBooks on the kids macbooks.
> She likes the recording features that allow her to keep summaries of books read.
> I think the answer is it only runs on iphone/ipad.
> Anyone know of something that does that on macbooks?
> ta
> blitto
> 
> <image.gif>
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 0409 681 256
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From jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au  Tue Aug 30 08:03:59 2011
From: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au (James Humberstone, MLC School)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:03:59 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iBooks
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Hey Mal,

Are you suggesting that Pages can be used as an ePub reader? Now that would be news to me!

Of course I'm aware that you can publish ePub from Pages (I've referred to that below) - my point and Blitto's question is that there isn't an 'iBooks' for Mac OS and that the readers for MacOS don't read the multimedia elements of ePub that Pages can export. 

Actually, the ePub reader that Greg mentioned as a plug-in for Firefox had more success in my tests than Calibre or Adobe Digital Editions.

Best,
James

On 30/08/2011, at 7:56 AM, Mal Lee wrote:

> James
> 
> Probably the easiest ePub facility is within Pages
> 
> It is dead simple to use
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mal
> On 30/08/2011, at 6:49 AM, Norris, Greg wrote:
> 
>> I use the ePub reader extension on Firefox on the Mac. THere is also the open source Calibre
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/08/2011, at 10:29 PM, James Humberstone, MLC School wrote:
>> 
>> Gerday Blitto,
>> 
>> This is one of my causes! Unfortunately there is no iBooks for the Mac and so far iTunes does not read iBooks either.
>> 
>> Because iBooks uses the ePub standard there are a number of MacBook apps (Adobe Digital Editions, Calibre to name two) which will allow you to read ePubs you've made yourself but you may not have luck with ones you've purchased. But the bigger problem is that while Apple have kept to the standards (ePub is basically just zipped HTML with a specific internal folder structure) none of the Mac solutions read the video and audio that you can put in Pages-authored ePub.
>> 
>> This is the only thing stopping me moving to ePub as standard for all my resources... not having a compatible MacOS reader in a 1-to-1 Mac school means it's not worth the work. A huge shame because the media capabilities make it a better solution than PDF etc. for resourcing and for kids to publish their own stuff. And iBooks is sexy! OK you can't write something like that without sounding like the biggest geek ever.
>> 
>> [I hate to say it but Kindle may be a better way to go if you don't want to wait for Apple to sort this out or someone else to make a better reader for Mac OS. Reads a number of formats including the open .mobi format, and there is a Kindle app for Mac, PC, iPad, iPhone even Android I think. :( ]
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> James
>> 
>> On 29/08/2011, at 10:12 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
>> 
>> Hi MACEDers
>> My English head wants to know can we install iBooks on the kids macbooks.
>> She likes the recording features that allow her to keep summaries of books read.
>> I think the answer is it only runs on iphone/ipad.
>> Anyone know of something that does that on macbooks?
>> ta
>> blitto
>> 
>> <image.gif>
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> 0409 681 256
>> rblit at iinet.net.au
>> http://web.me.com/blitto<http://web.mac.com/blitto>
>> 
>> Black holes suck.
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From rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au  Tue Aug 30 10:58:51 2011
From: rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au (Richard Blinco)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:28:51 +0930
Subject: [Maced] iBooks
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James is right

Biggest headache is that there is no eBook reader on the mac. Calibre and the other solutions don't play the media, don't look as nice and don't really have the same functionality. I wonder what the logic is for apple not having an eBook reader? You would have thought it would have been a really easy thing to do. Some other dark plan maybe?

Regardless, if you have Pages and use lots of iPads in your school, it is a fantastic way to get kids and staff actually creating their own content. 

Richard

On 29/08/2011, at 9:42 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> My English head wants to know can we install iBooks on the kids macbooks.
> She likes the recording features that allow her to keep summaries of books read.
> I think the answer is it only runs on iphone/ipad.
> Anyone know of something that does that on macbooks?
> ta
> blitto
> 
> <image.gif>
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
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From michaelrosenbrock at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 13:07:26 2011
From: michaelrosenbrock at gmail.com (Michael Rosenbrock)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:07:26 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iPad straw poll
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Afternoon all!

Quick question for those in DEECD (Vic Dept of Ed) schools... Does anyone know of any government schools in Vic that have used the NSSCF (Rudd money) to purchase iPads?

Thanks,

Michael

On 26/08/2011, at 11:40 AM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com> wrote:

> Morning All, 
> 
> No issues with the sharing, we are all on the journey together and the work done by myself and the staff at Kolbe college will be shared with all. On the 13th I will release a large selection of findings for the Australian Community to use.
> 
> I hadn't used GoodReader before, so have been playing with it. Interesting app. It's a pity Apple hasn't so far made Pages more open in its ability to transfer docs to other apps.
> Some of the more interesting aspect for these apps are to come, with no update for a while I crystal ball a radical change for this in the not to distant
> future.
> Are you saying that students generally use ipads more for note taking than for writing longer pieces, eg. essays?
> In the main yes, but again more and more I think this is change, next weeks survey is based on curriculum and focus on use by department, going to be very interesting.
> A question I have to the community is if anyone has got any stats on grade improvements with the  iPads. We only have 1 assessment last year compared to this year so far but curious about others statistics on this topic.
> 
> Regards
> Bradley Tyrrell
> Head of Digital Technology
> Kolbe Catholic College
> Rockingham WA
> iChat: tyrrell.bradley at me.com
> www.tyrrell.net.au
> 
> On 26 Aug, 2011,at 07:35 AM, David Jones <djones at scotch.sa.edu.au> wrote:
> 
>> Bradley,
>> Thanks for the time you've put into responding. There's a lot there to ponder.
>> See some notes in red below.
>> Keep up the good work and it would be great if you can keep us informed.
>> David
>> 
>> From: Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
>> Reply-To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:21:24 +0000 (GMT)
>> To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Maced] iPad straw poll
>> 
>> Hi David, hopefully the answers I provide to you help. On the 13th of September I will be releasing the first lot of survey results from the students (dispels a lot of the myths of the program from student perspectives).
>> If you could share some of your findings, either on Maced or by email, that would be great.
>> 
>> The program has made a dramatic difference to our year 10's engagement and the quality of their work, If you are keen also I invite anyone to come to an open day we having, anyone is most welcome to register and come. http://www.kolbe.wa.edu.au/mobile-learning-with-ipads/ 
>> 
>>> How are people coping with the document-centric nature of iPads,
>>> compared to computers using a traditional file structure.
>> 
>> 
>> This issue was an interesting one, I guess its a question that the students have not asked me Generally speaking any work they are producing on the iPad is controlled by the application Goodreader. We use this App for students to put worksheets into and access files from the shared drives. They are able to create a sudo filing structure in the app through the creation of folders for each of their subjects etc. The only time that this might not be true is if they are viewing an ePub or they still have the document in the Pages app itself. Overall its not an issue as such.
>> 
>> I hadn't used GoodReader before, so have been playing with it. Interesting app. It's a pity Apple hasn't so far made Pages more open in its ability to transfer docs to other apps.
>> 
>>> ? Are ipads meeting your expectations as text book replacements?
>> 
>> At the college the only way have used the iPad at a text book replacement is if the book we have in hard copy has a PDF with it also. Students categorically comment that this is one of the best things about the iPads as they don't have to lug it around anymore, no risk of losing it (we have a book hire system, low socioeconomic) and they always have it with them at home or school. So in just time saved in these things it is more than meeting the expectations. 
>> 
>>>  How are students finding them for essay writing, ie. are they adapting
>>> to the onscreen keyboard and is there enough screen real estate left for
>>> effective creative writing?
>> 
>> 
>> It was one of the first things we noticed with the program, a student opting to sit typing an essay or document up in front of a desktop computer (i have the picture to prove it). Because the iPad only really allows for one view, either the web or the document for taking the notes (of course unless you have an app) the issue of screen real-estate is not a big issue. If anything we have seen student do it both ways with hand writing notes while viewing a webpage on the iPad or vice versa. I am not sure if I have answered this question in the way you want.
>> 
>> Are you saying that students generally use ipads more for note taking than for writing longer pieces, eg. essays?
>> 
>>>  Has anyone succeeded in enabling printing across the school network?
>> 
>> 
>> The simple answer is yes, its not that hard, and it requires a little bit of creativity. We use papercut as our printing client and we have the ability to make them use air print to authenticate to paper cut which charges them and allows them to print just as if it was a laptop. Now... I say this with the following in mind,  we do not allow at this stage students to print because we feel that while the function is not with our ideal networks of cloud and digital submissions. However, paper cut will be releasing their web print version in late 2011, but I am saying you don't have to wait if you don't want too and I would not rather use a third party app to get paper cut to work when it will have its own solution soon anyway. I can give you more details on this. 
>> 
>> We use Papercut, but hadn't investigated web print. However, the ios client should be a much better option.
>> 
>>> ? How efficient and effective is it to use webDAV servers to transfer
>>> documents between teachers and students?
>> 
>> 
>> This is highlighly effective, transfer rates to our shared network drives as if you were dragging it from your laptop and good reader again is integrated with webDAV along with pages and keynote (iMovie for some reason does not, really annoying). I would however point out that we use wikis ALOT at the college and find this our number one method for accessing our documents and use webdav for submissions as the wiki 10.6 does not allow editing of a wiki (10.7 does I believe, stay tuned)
>> 
>> Excellent
>> 
>> Sorry for being a little preachy but it is my passion and I have seen the positive impact that this has had with some of our students engagement in the classroom.
>> Don't worry about being preachy ? we are constantly re-evaluating how we use IT in the school, so it's great to hear how others do it.
>> 
>> It is amazing how many new friends I have :)
>> 
>> Regards
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>> Head of Digital Technology
>> Kolbe Catholic College
>> Rockingham WA
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From matt at skoss.org  Tue Aug 30 22:46:39 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:16:39 +0930
Subject: [Maced] iPad app that works like QuickTime Screen Recording...does
	it exist?
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The closest I found are Screen Chomp and Show Me which do a reasonable job of binding voice with the on-screen activity, but only within the app itself.

What would really rock is an iPad app that captures the screen activity of any app, binding with voice.

Does such an app exist?

Regards, Matt.

From haddow.terry at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 17:40:50 2011
From: haddow.terry at gmail.com (Terry Haddow)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:40:50 +1000
Subject: [Maced] ebooks
Message-ID: <50C5B6EB-6A33-48F1-B9C6-8082D2B5F285@gmail.com>

I must admit - I too have been curious about the lack of reader support. We offer a 1to 1 mac program for our stage 3 and an ipad program for Kinder/stage 1.  To link the two - I have had the Stage 3 kids write and illustrate stories for the younger ones to use on the ipads. The problem being - they can't really see what it's turning out like until it's on the ipad. 

From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Wed Aug 31 21:30:47 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:30:47 +0800
Subject: [Maced] ebooks
In-Reply-To: <50C5B6EB-6A33-48F1-B9C6-8082D2B5F285@gmail.com>
References: <50C5B6EB-6A33-48F1-B9C6-8082D2B5F285@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EDC05664-0F0B-4586-87C8-067C9F6A9BC0@helena.wa.edu.au>

http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/kindle/id405399194?mt=12 - Kindle book free
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/bookreader/id448943039?mt=12 $10.49 Book Reader supports non DRM-ed books,fb2,doc, rtf,html,webarchive
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/ezreader/id431518348?mt=12 - ezReader eBook reader for plain text. $1.99
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/scarlett/id457009670?mt=12 Scarlett $9.49 non DRM ePub viewing
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/murasaki/id430300762?mt=12 Murasaki $5.49 simple ePub reader

All of the above found on the Apple app store. It appears DRM cannot be viewed due to licensing problems, nonDRM is ok.

                      Regards,
                      Eugene
                  
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On 31/08/2011, at 3:40 PM, Terry Haddow wrote:

> I must admit - I too have been curious about the lack of reader support. We offer a 1to 1 mac program for our stage 3 and an ipad program for Kinder/stage 1.  To link the two - I have had the Stage 3 kids write and illustrate stories for the younger ones to use on the ipads. The problem being - they can't really see what it's turning out like until it's on the ipad. 
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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Aug 31 22:03:13 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:03:13 +1000
Subject: [Maced] password changing
In-Reply-To: <5D8FB0DB4244F94996E654A154C93C9F03E8ED15@SLUGPEXMC05.central.det.win>
References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08464@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>,
	<5D8FB0DB4244F94996E654A154C93C9F03E8ED15@SLUGPEXMC05.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F357225@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

Is there schools out there where each teacher is given EMU clearance so as to change their own class passwords ?
or
am i better off doing it all (all 420 of them)

    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail

Albion Park Rail Public School
________________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Norris, Greg [Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au]
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:12 PM
To: 'maced at zeus.as.edu.au'
Subject: Re: [Maced] password changing

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WARNING

This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the
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like your username, password, email address or other information.

Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content.

Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for
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Any staff member can be allocated the ability to change a student's Portal password. This is done by the principal or delegate through AMU in Portal.

Greg



-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Southwell, Glenn
Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:00 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: [Maced] password changing

Can standard staff change children's passwords?
If so how?



    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail

Albion Park Rail Public School
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Aug 31 22:11:50 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:11:50 +1000
Subject: [Maced] password changing
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F357225@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08464@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>,
	<5D8FB0DB4244F94996E654A154C93C9F03E8ED15@SLUGPEXMC05.central.det.win>
	<07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F357225@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <F12E97E4-F0C7-43FE-9AF0-883CF3B27DBE@det.nsw.edu.au>

Every teacher (including regular casuals and all temps) at my school are given EMU access to change student passwords. I expect and encourage teachers to manage student passwords. We are a high school of 100 teachers and 1250 students.

I also require students to have their password reset questions.

If a teacher sends a student to me to change a password I send them back, telling students they can reset their own passwords.

Only principal & DPs and myself can suspend accounts.

Greg


On 31/08/2011, at 10:03 PM, Southwell, Glenn wrote:

> 
> **********************************************************************
> WARNING
> 
> This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the
> email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information
> like your username, password, email address or other information.
> 
> Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content.
> 
> Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for
> your DET User ID or password.
> 
> For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see
> the Department's Intranet site at:
> https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm
> 
> **********************************************************************
> Is there schools out there where each teacher is given EMU clearance so as to change their own class passwords ?
> or
> am i better off doing it all (all 420 of them)
> 
>    Glenn Southwell
>            at
>        The Rail
> 
> Albion Park Rail Public School
> ________________________________________
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Norris, Greg [Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:12 PM
> To: 'maced at zeus.as.edu.au'
> Subject: Re: [Maced] password changing
> 
> **********************************************************************
> WARNING
> 
> This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the
> email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information
> like your username, password, email address or other information.
> 
> Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content.
> 
> Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for
> your DET User ID or password.
> 
> For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see
> the Department's Intranet site at:
> https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm
> 
> **********************************************************************
> Any staff member can be allocated the ability to change a student's Portal password. This is done by the principal or delegate through AMU in Portal.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Southwell, Glenn
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:00 PM
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject: [Maced] password changing
> 
> Can standard staff change children's passwords?
> If so how?
> 
> 
> 
>    Glenn Southwell
>            at
>        The Rail
> 
> Albion Park Rail Public School
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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Aug 31 22:18:12 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:18:12 +1000
Subject: [Maced] password changing
In-Reply-To: <F12E97E4-F0C7-43FE-9AF0-883CF3B27DBE@det.nsw.edu.au>
References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450CD08464@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>,
	<5D8FB0DB4244F94996E654A154C93C9F03E8ED15@SLUGPEXMC05.central.det.win>
	<07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F357225@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>,
	<F12E97E4-F0C7-43FE-9AF0-883CF3B27DBE@det.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F357226@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

Thanks... just needed some ammo for the discussion with the boss. Is exactly what i have been telling him.
    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail

Albion Park Rail Public School
________________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Norris, Greg [Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] password changing

**********************************************************************
WARNING

This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the
email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information
like your username, password, email address or other information.

Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content.

Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for
your DET User ID or password.

For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see
the Department's Intranet site at:
https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm

**********************************************************************
Every teacher (including regular casuals and all temps) at my school are given EMU access to change student passwords. I expect and encourage teachers to manage student passwords. We are a high school of 100 teachers and 1250 students.

I also require students to have their password reset questions.

If a teacher sends a student to me to change a password I send them back, telling students they can reset their own passwords.

Only principal & DPs and myself can suspend accounts.

Greg


On 31/08/2011, at 10:03 PM, Southwell, Glenn wrote:

>
> **********************************************************************
> WARNING
>
> This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the
> email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information
> like your username, password, email address or other information.
>
> Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content.
>
> Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for
> your DET User ID or password.
>
> For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see
> the Department's Intranet site at:
> https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm
>
> **********************************************************************
> Is there schools out there where each teacher is given EMU clearance so as to change their own class passwords ?
> or
> am i better off doing it all (all 420 of them)
>
>    Glenn Southwell
>            at
>        The Rail
>
> Albion Park Rail Public School
> ________________________________________
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Norris, Greg [Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:12 PM
> To: 'maced at zeus.as.edu.au'
> Subject: Re: [Maced] password changing
>
> **********************************************************************
> WARNING
>
> This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the
> email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information
> like your username, password, email address or other information.
>
> Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content.
>
> Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for
> your DET User ID or password.
>
> For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see
> the Department's Intranet site at:
> https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm
>
> **********************************************************************
> Any staff member can be allocated the ability to change a student's Portal password. This is done by the principal or delegate through AMU in Portal.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Southwell, Glenn
> Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:00 PM
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject: [Maced] password changing
>
> Can standard staff change children's passwords?
> If so how?
>
>
>
>    Glenn Southwell
>            at
>        The Rail
>
> Albion Park Rail Public School
> **********************************************************************
> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you
> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender.
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