From Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au  Thu Dec  1 12:59:17 2011
From: Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au (LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College])
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:59:17 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [Maced] Test
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Thanks Gary for replying but don't think it became a post:(  Are you teh manager of the site or is it Warren?

Regards, Elaine BS Lennox

ICT Co-ordinator
Canning Vale College
26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155

Tel: 08 9456 7017




-----Original Message-----
>From garry stokes <garry at gstokes.org>
Sent Tue 29/11/2011 17:29
To maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject Re: [Maced] Test

it worked

On 29 November 2011 20:13, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]
<Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:
> Fingers crossed this works and I'll be able to 'post' at last. Been having
> trouble with the zeus part of the address and our DET guys here say to get
> rid of it.
>
> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
>
> ICT Co-ordinator
> Canning Vale College
> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
>
> Tel: 08 9456 7017
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>

_______________________________________________
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Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced




From garry at gstokes.org  Thu Dec  1 17:42:10 2011
From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:42:10 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Test
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References: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>
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If you think you have posted to the list i think you have
not me the manager is

On 1 December 2011 12:59, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]
<Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:
> Thanks Gary for replying but don't think it became a post:( ?Are you teh manager of the site or is it Warren?
>
> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
>
> ICT Co-ordinator
> Canning Vale College
> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
>
> Tel: 08 9456 7017
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From garry stokes <garry at gstokes.org>
> Sent Tue 29/11/2011 17:29
> To maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject Re: [Maced] Test
>
> it worked
>
> On 29 November 2011 20:13, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]
> <Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:
>> Fingers crossed this works and I'll be able to 'post' at last. Been having
>> trouble with the zeus part of the address and our DET guys here say to get
>> rid of it.
>>
>> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
>>
>> ICT Co-ordinator
>> Canning Vale College
>> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
>>
>> Tel: 08 9456 7017
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From mlevins at as.edu.au  Thu Dec  1 18:26:50 2011
From: mlevins at as.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:26:50 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Test
In-Reply-To: <12439590.1322704757195.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap12.det.wa.edu.au>
References: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>
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Hey

Me is list man but in wash pool nat park until weekend

Will have a squiz then

Cheers
Martin

Sent from my shoephone

On 01/12/2011, at 12:59, "LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]" <Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:

> Thanks Gary for replying but don't think it became a post:(  Are you teh manager of the site or is it Warren?
> 
> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
> 
> ICT Co-ordinator
> Canning Vale College
> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
> 
> Tel: 08 9456 7017
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From garry stokes <garry at gstokes.org>
> Sent Tue 29/11/2011 17:29
> To maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject Re: [Maced] Test
> 
> it worked
> 
> On 29 November 2011 20:13, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]
> <Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:
>> Fingers crossed this works and I'll be able to 'post' at last. Been having
>> trouble with the zeus part of the address and our DET guys here say to get
>> rid of it.
>> 
>> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
>> 
>> ICT Co-ordinator
>> Canning Vale College
>> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
>> 
>> Tel: 08 9456 7017
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

From rwhitely at internode.on.net  Thu Dec  1 20:56:31 2011
From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 17:56:31 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Test
In-Reply-To: <12439590.1322704757195.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap12.det.wa.edu.au>
References: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>
	<CANpmFVt8W4-79-ri_3ZpC6S0qw_U11RLd_GujFn5kUWpRQa6XQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <75DE298C-AADA-4766-BDFC-BE2CFDEEFC4A@internode.on.net>

I got it too :-)

Hi Elaine

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net



On 01/12/2011, at 9:59 am, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College] wrote:

> Thanks Gary for replying but don't think it became a post:(  Are you teh manager of the site or is it Warren?
> 
> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
> 
> ICT Co-ordinator
> Canning Vale College
> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
> 
> Tel: 08 9456 7017
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From garry stokes <garry at gstokes.org>
> Sent Tue 29/11/2011 17:29
> To maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject Re: [Maced] Test
> 
> it worked
> 
> On 29 November 2011 20:13, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]
> <Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:
>> Fingers crossed this works and I'll be able to 'post' at last. Been having
>> trouble with the zeus part of the address and our DET guys here say to get
>> rid of it.
>> 
>> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
>> 
>> ICT Co-ordinator
>> Canning Vale College
>> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
>> 
>> Tel: 08 9456 7017
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Dec  1 22:45:56 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 03:45:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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Hi All

Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
If so how?
And what sort of synchimg station did you use?

Cheers

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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 23:03:21 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:03:21 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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Very good question Dave and I would like to know the answer(s) to this
question as well.

Mark

On 1 December 2011 15:45, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
> If so how?
> And what sort of synchimg station did you use?
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>


-- 
Mark Stone
GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310
Dubai
United Arab Emirates
Tel:  +971 4 288 6499
Fax: +971 4 288 6490

*www.royaldubaischool.com*
*www.twitter.com/gemsrds*

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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Sat Dec  3 09:43:14 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:43:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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I've rethought this:

All changed with iOS5 and iTunes updates.
The new iTunes legal conditions are crystal clear - for school use - a legal, purchased individual copy of the App for each iPad.
And you effectively sign this agreement every time you buy an App.

As to synching without VLM, you can do it, but only if you have multiple funded iTunes accounts.
Then you synch all iPads to one account and Apple apparently accepts this as you have legally bought multiple App copies.

To me, it's just as easy to buy the Apps directly on the iPad and not worry about synching until VLMs become available.

HTH

Dave


________________________________
 From: Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au>
To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:45 PM
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
 

Hi All

Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
If so how?
And what sort of synchimg station did you use?

Cheers

Dave


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From wazmac at me.com  Sat Dec  3 17:11:16 2011
From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 17:11:16 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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On 03/12/2011, at 9:43 AM, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> The new iTunes legal conditions are crystal clear - for school use - a legal, purchased individual copy of the App for each iPad.

And really, this is fair. Can you imagine toiling to create, test and support an app, that was being paid for once by a school (or anyone else), often for a couple of bucks, and being used on 20/50/100 devices by maybe 1000 students (in a HS).

You'd feel a bit ripped off!

Yes it's a cost - but it is one that we should be factoring in to our school running costs.

MS software licensing for desktop / laptop devices is being provided for public schools by education authorities / governments in most states (costing 100's of millions of $$$$) because they believe it supports learning in our classrooms. 

Hopefully these same authorities are considering how to license software for mobile devices on behalf of schools in the 21st century.

Maybe such licensing considerations will become part of the much touted 'local decision making / funding' model???

Warren
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Sat Dec  3 17:16:17 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:16:17 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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I agree totally with this. Imagine if you have invested thousands of $$$'s to develop an outstanding app and were struggling to pay the money back or even get a return. So yes its very fair. For me i just want to know
(a) where we all stand and
(b) the best way to go about this. Someone else has has invented the wheel on this and I want to know how to do it and not muck around with it. We are a lead school and we need to model best practice. As you say, it all changed with iOS5.!

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

On 3 Dec 2011, at 02:43, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> I've rethought this:
> 
> All changed with iOS5 and iTunes updates.
> The new iTunes legal conditions are crystal clear - for school use - a legal, purchased individual copy of the App for each iPad.
> And you effectively sign this agreement every time you buy an App.
> 
> As to synching without VLM, you can do it, but only if you have multiple funded iTunes accounts.
> Then you synch all iPads to one account and Apple apparently accepts this as you have legally bought multiple App copies.
> 
> To me, it's just as easy to buy the Apps directly on the iPad and not worry about synching until VLMs become available.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Dave
> 
> From: Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au>
> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:45 PM
> Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
> If so how?
> And what sort of synchimg station did you use?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Sat Dec  3 22:01:27 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 22:01:27 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Magic Garage Band Fail
Message-ID: <a06240800caffb16e4f0d@[10.0.0.1]>

A colleague's macbook 08 OS 10.5.8 crashes Garage Band whenever Magic 
GB is chosen. You get the alert sound and it quits. No message/ Does 
it on more than one acct. Nothing obviously amiss.
Cheers
Jock


From lists4scott at barnham.com.au  Sun Dec  4 08:40:30 2011
From: lists4scott at barnham.com.au (Scott Barnham)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 08:40:30 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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If you read iTunes Terms & Conditions it's very clear:

	? for home use, it's buy ONCE for all the iOS devices you own on a single AppleID
	? for business and education use it's either:
		a) buy 1 copy per device if multiple people use the one device (eg. iPad lab)
		b) buy 1 copy per user if they have multiple devices (eg. Teacher with iPhone and iPad no-one else uses)


In terms of managing that ? that is the fun part.    Here is how I understand it:

You need to separate purchasing and installing in your mind, it's two separate steps.

Purchasing ? You can only buy 1 copy of an app per AppleID as it say's 'installed' once you have.  So you need an AppleID per iOS device, which also means a different email address ... Lot's of work if you have 60 x iPad.
Until we get Volume Licensing in Australia, you need buy 1 copy of EACH app on EVERY AppleID/iTunes Account.

Installing ? You can either:
(i) associate a separate AppleID to each iOS device, so when you buy and app it's then automatically on your device.  OR, 
(ii) you can use one AppleID to install with and purchase on the other AppleIDs to be legal as a separate step.

If you want to sync other stuff (photos, email, layout, etc...) then go path (ii) above to keep all devices the same.  You ca use a USB hub and plug multiple iOS devices into one Mac.


Bye,
Scot


On 03/12/2011, at 5:16 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> I agree totally with this. Imagine if you have invested thousands of $$$'s to develop an outstanding app and were struggling to pay the money back or even get a return. So yes its very fair. For me i just want to know
> (a) where we all stand and
> (b) the best way to go about this. Someone else has has invented the wheel on this and I want to know how to do it and not muck around with it. We are a lead school and we need to model best practice. As you say, it all changed with iOS5.!
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>    
> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
> On 3 Dec 2011, at 02:43, Dave Hounsell wrote:
> 
>> I've rethought this:
>> 
>> All changed with iOS5 and iTunes updates.
>> The new iTunes legal conditions are crystal clear - for school use - a legal, purchased individual copy of the App for each iPad.
>> And you effectively sign this agreement every time you buy an App.
>> 
>> As to synching without VLM, you can do it, but only if you have multiple funded iTunes accounts.
>> Then you synch all iPads to one account and Apple apparently accepts this as you have legally bought multiple App copies.
>> 
>> To me, it's just as easy to buy the Apps directly on the iPad and not worry about synching until VLMs become available.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> From: Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:45 PM
>> Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
>> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
>> If so how?
>> And what sort of synchimg station did you use?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Sun Dec  4 16:21:30 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 09:21:30 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
In-Reply-To: <CC6C49E4-CF09-4DFD-8775-38C4799903F4@barnham.com.au>
References: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>
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Hi Scott
I agree with all this. However using iOS5 why would you bother with Volume Licensing when (a) you have set all your Apple ID's up previously and (b) you can download the apps to each single device

Question: can each Apple ID have the same password?

I also agree with you that (ii) you can use one AppleID to install with and purchase on the other AppleIDs to be legal as a separate step.

Regards
Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

On 4 Dec 2011, at 01:40, Scott Barnham wrote:

> 
> If you read iTunes Terms & Conditions it's very clear:
> 
> 	? for home use, it's buy ONCE for all the iOS devices you own on a single AppleID
> 	? for business and education use it's either:
> 		a) buy 1 copy per device if multiple people use the one device (eg. iPad lab)
> 		b) buy 1 copy per user if they have multiple devices (eg. Teacher with iPhone and iPad no-one else uses)
> 
> 
> In terms of managing that ? that is the fun part.    Here is how I understand it:
> 
> You need to separate purchasing and installing in your mind, it's two separate steps.
> 
> Purchasing ? You can only buy 1 copy of an app per AppleID as it say's 'installed' once you have.  So you need an AppleID per iOS device, which also means a different email address ... Lot's of work if you have 60 x iPad.
> Until we get Volume Licensing in Australia, you need buy 1 copy of EACH app on EVERY AppleID/iTunes Account.
> 
> Installing ? You can either:
> (i) associate a separate AppleID to each iOS device, so when you buy and app it's then automatically on your device.  OR, 
> (ii) you can use one AppleID to install with and purchase on the other AppleIDs to be legal as a separate step.
> 
> If you want to sync other stuff (photos, email, layout, etc...) then go path (ii) above to keep all devices the same.  You ca use a USB hub and plug multiple iOS devices into one Mac.
> 
> 
> Bye,
> Scot
> 
> 
> On 03/12/2011, at 5:16 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> I agree totally with this. Imagine if you have invested thousands of $$$'s to develop an outstanding app and were struggling to pay the money back or even get a return. So yes its very fair. For me i just want to know
>> (a) where we all stand and
>> (b) the best way to go about this. Someone else has has invented the wheel on this and I want to know how to do it and not muck around with it. We are a lead school and we need to model best practice. As you say, it all changed with iOS5.!
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>    
>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> On 3 Dec 2011, at 02:43, Dave Hounsell wrote:
>> 
>>> I've rethought this:
>>> 
>>> All changed with iOS5 and iTunes updates.
>>> The new iTunes legal conditions are crystal clear - for school use - a legal, purchased individual copy of the App for each iPad.
>>> And you effectively sign this agreement every time you buy an App.
>>> 
>>> As to synching without VLM, you can do it, but only if you have multiple funded iTunes accounts.
>>> Then you synch all iPads to one account and Apple apparently accepts this as you have legally bought multiple App copies.
>>> 
>>> To me, it's just as easy to buy the Apps directly on the iPad and not worry about synching until VLMs become available.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> From: Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au>
>>> To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:45 PM
>>> Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
>>> If so how?
>>> And what sort of synchimg station did you use?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Sun Dec  4 17:51:42 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 22:51:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
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We use the same password for different accounts.


________________________________
 From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au 
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2011 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
 

Hi Scott
I agree with all this. However using iOS5 why would you bother with Volume Licensing when (a) you have set all your Apple ID's up previously and (b) you can download the apps to each single device

Question: can each Apple ID have the same password?

I also agree with you that (ii) you can use one AppleID to install with and purchase on the other AppleIDs to be legal as a separate step.

Regards
Mark


Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email: ????????m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website: ???http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter: ?????http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog: ??????????http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.


???

 

On 4 Dec 2011, at 01:40, Scott Barnham wrote:


>
>If you read iTunes Terms & Conditions it's very clear:
>
>
>??for home use, it's buy ONCE for all the iOS devices you own on a single AppleID
>? for business and education use it's either:
>a)?buy 1 copy per device if multiple people use the one device (eg. iPad lab)
>b) buy 1 copy per user if they have multiple devices (eg. Teacher with iPhone and iPad no-one else uses)
>
>
>
>
>In terms of managing that ? that is the fun part. ? ?Here is how I understand it:
>
>
>You need to separate purchasing and installing in your mind, it's two separate steps.
>
>
>Purchasing ? You can only buy 1 copy of an app per AppleID as it say's 'installed' once you have. ?So you need an AppleID per iOS device, which also means a different email address ... Lot's of work if you have 60 x iPad.
>Until we get Volume Licensing in Australia, you need buy 1 copy of EACH app on EVERY AppleID/iTunes Account.
>
>
>Installing ? You can either:
>(i) associate a separate AppleID to each iOS device, so when you buy and app it's then automatically on your device. ?OR,?
>(ii) you can use one AppleID to install with and purchase on the other AppleIDs to be legal as a separate step.
>
>
>If you want to sync other stuff (photos, email, layout, etc...) then go path (ii) above to keep all devices the same. ?You ca use a USB hub and plug multiple iOS devices into one Mac.
>
>
>
>
>Bye,
>Scot
>
>
>
>On 03/12/2011, at 5:16 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
>
>I agree totally with this. Imagine if you have invested thousands of $$$'s to develop an outstanding app and were struggling to pay the money back or even get a return. So yes its very fair. For me i just want to know
>>(a) where we all stand and
>>(b) the best way to go about this. Someone else has has invented the wheel on this and I want to know how to do it and not muck around with it. We are a lead school and we need to model best practice. As you say, it all changed with iOS5.!
>>
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>Mark Stone
>>ICT Learning Coach
>>
>>GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>Email: ????????m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>Website: ???http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>Twitter: ?????http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>Blog: ??????????http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>><PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>???<PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>>
>>On 3 Dec 2011, at 02:43, Dave Hounsell wrote:
>>
>>I've rethought this:
>>>
>>>
>>>All changed with iOS5 and iTunes updates.
>>>The new iTunes legal conditions are crystal clear - for school use - a legal, purchased individual copy of the App for each iPad.
>>>And you effectively sign this agreement every time you buy an App.
>>>
>>>
>>>As to synching without VLM, you can do it, but only if you have multiple funded iTunes accounts.
>>>Then you synch all iPads to one account and Apple apparently accepts this as you have legally bought multiple App copies.
>>>
>>>
>>>To me, it's just as easy to buy the Apps directly on the iPad and not worry about synching until VLMs become available.
>>>
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au>
>>>To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
>>>Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011 10:45 PM
>>>Subject: [Maced] Synching Apps to 30 iPads
>>> 
>>>
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>>
>>>Has anyone managed to synch Apps to multiple iPads simultaneously?
>>>If so how?
>>>And what sort of synchimg station did you use?
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Maced mailing list
>>>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Maced mailing list
>>>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Maced mailing list
>>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>
>_______________________________________________
>Maced mailing list
>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From matt at skoss.org  Mon Dec  5 09:32:46 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:02:46 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Staff ICT skills audit
Message-ID: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>

I'm about to move to a school, and have been asked to make use of a systemic ICT survey used by the NT DET.

It is a fairly long survey, with broadbrush questions that don't get down to the 'what do you actually do in the classroom with the kids' type questions.

Does anyone have a short survey that elicits staff's own ICT competency (without making people feel inadequate) at a personal/professional level, as well as a pedagogical content knowledge (PCK) level (aka...tailored to their own subject discipline)?

Many thanks.

Regards, Matt.
0418-624 631

From zac.nethery at ntschools.net  Mon Dec  5 09:42:24 2011
From: zac.nethery at ntschools.net (Zac Nethery)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:12:24 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Magic Garage Band Fail
In-Reply-To: <a06240800caffb16e4f0d@[10.0.0.1]>
References: <a06240800caffb16e4f0d@[10.0.0.1]>
Message-ID: <CCADB30028C4964FAFBFFEBC0D365A610281B51938DC@DRWNT-EV1A.ntschools.net>

Hi Jock

Not sure if you have already, but it might be worth looking in the console to see if an error is displayed as the program quits.

Thanks

Zac Nethery
Multi-Media Technician
Centralian Middle School
Northern Territory Government
56 Milner Road | Alice Aprings | NT | 0870
ph: 08 8950 2500? fx: 08 8952 6614
zac.nethery at ntschools.net 
www.cms.nt.edu.au   


-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Jock Webb
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011 8:31 PM
To: Macs in Education
Subject: [Maced] Magic Garage Band Fail

A colleague's macbook 08 OS 10.5.8 crashes Garage Band whenever Magic 
GB is chosen. You get the alert sound and it quits. No message/ Does 
it on more than one acct. Nothing obviously amiss.
Cheers
Jock

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From mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au  Mon Dec  5 10:04:04 2011
From: mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au (Martin COOMBE)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:34:04 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Staff ICT skills audit
In-Reply-To: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
References: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <fc.000f4cdf00cff3b33b9aca00ac1ec29f.cff3fd@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Hi Matt
When I started in this ICT support role at Scotch in 2006, I did a short
skills checklist with staff to get an understanding of everyone's skills
and interests. It wasn't used in any formal way for appraisal purposes or
similar, but more as a guide for tailoring PD and identifying who may be
able assist in providing support. I would be smarter than this now and use
an on-line survey tool like Freeonlinesurveys or Survey Monkey. You'll see
the attached list is pretty outdated! But it was useful at the time.
Cheers
Marty Coombe
maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>I'm about to move to a school, and have been asked to make use of a
>systemic ICT survey used by the NT DET.
>
>It is a fairly long survey, with broadbrush questions that don't get down
>to the 'what do you actually do in the classroom with the kids' type
>questions.
>
>Does anyone have a short survey that elicits staff's own ICT competency
>(without making people feel inadequate) at a personal/professional level,
>as well as a pedagogical content knowledge (PCK) level (aka...tailored to
>their own subject discipline)?
>
>Many thanks.
>
>Regards, Matt.
>0418-624 631
>_______________________________________________
>Maced mailing list
>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


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From emmbeebee at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 11:51:52 2011
From: emmbeebee at gmail.com (Bernadette Baring)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:51:52 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Staff ICT skills audit
In-Reply-To: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
References: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <CAF8Mh38AC1M+6dqNRZYShsDU1uddxxJXNefnxqO-8J0GWh-0iw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Matt,

Here is survey we used to gather info on staff needs in terms of PD:

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/594186/CBRSS-ICT-Survey

Bernadette Baring
Cape Byron Rudolf Steiner School



On 5 December 2011 09:32, Matt Skoss <matt at skoss.org> wrote:

> I'm about to move to a school, and have been asked to make use of a
> systemic ICT survey used by the NT DET.
>
> It is a fairly long survey, with broadbrush questions that don't get down
> to the 'what do you actually do in the classroom with the kids' type
> questions.
>
> Does anyone have a short survey that elicits staff's own ICT competency
> (without making people feel inadequate) at a personal/professional level,
> as well as a pedagogical content knowledge (PCK) level (aka...tailored to
> their own subject discipline)?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Regards, Matt.
> 0418-624 631
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
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From wazmac at me.com  Mon Dec  5 13:24:33 2011
From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:24:33 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Staff ICT skills audit
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f4cdf00cff3b33b9aca00ac1ec29f.cff3fd@scotch.sa.edu.au>
References: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
	<fc.000f4cdf00cff3b33b9aca00ac1ec29f.cff3fd@scotch.sa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <88E96F52-7A4A-4341-8DEB-1289DAF3A650@me.com>

A bit of a different way of looking at it?.

I have always found it to be more informative to find out where people are at in their use of ICT outside of school?..

- Do they use a digital camera?
- Do they use text?
- Do they have a non-work email account? 
- Did they use TripIt when they went o/s last year?
- Do they download songs from iTunes?
- Have they ever used Google Docs?
- Do they own a smartphone?
- Do they use an iPad?
- Do they use the Internet for 'news'?
- Do they use the Internet to find out what is on at the movies?
- Have they ever watched a movie streaming on Apple TV?
- Have they used 'the Cloud'? or Facebook?
- etc
- etc

These sort of things are very good pointers to the adoption of the use of ICT to support the curriculum in the classroom.

I worked with a teacher earlier this year who was the secretary of his weekend sports club. I showed him how to use Dropbox, and how to share folders with others in the club. The penny dropped - partly because he a had a personal need, and this flow on to using 'emerging technologies' at school. All of a sudden everything was in the cloud.

Adopt and adapt.

The way most of us work in a classroom is an extension of our non-classroom life - our dress code, our personality, our beliefs and values, etc - and how we use ICT. 

I think this is a better place to start than quizzing people on how often they use PPT at school.

Warren



On 05/12/2011, at 10:04 AM, Martin COOMBE wrote:

> Hi Matt
> When I started in this ICT support role at Scotch in 2006, I did a short
> skills checklist with staff to get an understanding of everyone's skills
> and interests. It wasn't used in any formal way for appraisal purposes or
> similar, but more as a guide for tailoring PD and identifying who may be
> able assist in providing support. I would be smarter than this now and use
> an on-line survey tool like Freeonlinesurveys or Survey Monkey. You'll see
> the attached list is pretty outdated! But it was useful at the time.
> Cheers
> Marty Coombe
> maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>> I'm about to move to a school, and have been asked to make use of a
>> systemic ICT survey used by the NT DET.
>> 
>> It is a fairly long survey, with broadbrush questions that don't get down
>> to the 'what do you actually do in the classroom with the kids' type
>> questions.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a short survey that elicits staff's own ICT competency
>> (without making people feel inadequate) at a personal/professional level,
>> as well as a pedagogical content knowledge (PCK) level (aka...tailored to
>> their own subject discipline)?
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Regards, Matt.
>> 0418-624 631
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> <ICT Skills Checklist .doc>_______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From mrwheadon at mac.com  Mon Dec  5 17:53:47 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:53:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Staff ICT skills audit
In-Reply-To: <88E96F52-7A4A-4341-8DEB-1289DAF3A650@me.com>
References: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
	<fc.000f4cdf00cff3b33b9aca00ac1ec29f.cff3fd@scotch.sa.edu.au>
	<88E96F52-7A4A-4341-8DEB-1289DAF3A650@me.com>
Message-ID: <22BA0CB8-150F-4144-A931-2E0CE1BCB549@mac.com>

Great focus there Warren - 'the way most of us work in a classroom is an extension of our non-working life'  - so true!

Tom March has also some good ideas about what general ICT skills teachers need to participate in a Web 2.0. environment. A quick search will find him. 

5 years ago I spent a lot of time developing detailed ICT skills checklists for staff and students, but it was ultimately a waste of time. It had little to what the children were learning and focused on mastering hardware and software. Focus on the learning.

Mike

On 05/12/2011, at 1:24 PM, Warren McCullough <wazmac at me.com> wrote:

> A bit of a different way of looking at it?.
> 
> I have always found it to be more informative to find out where people are at in their use of ICT outside of school?..
> 
> - Do they use a digital camera?
> - Do they use text?
> - Do they have a non-work email account? 
> - Did they use TripIt when they went o/s last year?
> - Do they download songs from iTunes?
> - Have they ever used Google Docs?
> - Do they own a smartphone?
> - Do they use an iPad?
> - Do they use the Internet for 'news'?
> - Do they use the Internet to find out what is on at the movies?
> - Have they ever watched a movie streaming on Apple TV?
> - Have they used 'the Cloud'? or Facebook?
> - etc
> - etc
> 
> These sort of things are very good pointers to the adoption of the use of ICT to support the curriculum in the classroom.
> 
> I worked with a teacher earlier this year who was the secretary of his weekend sports club. I showed him how to use Dropbox, and how to share folders with others in the club. The penny dropped - partly because he a had a personal need, and this flow on to using 'emerging technologies' at school. All of a sudden everything was in the cloud.
> 
> Adopt and adapt.
> 
> The way most of us work in a classroom is an extension of our non-classroom life - our dress code, our personality, our beliefs and values, etc - and how we use ICT. 
> 
> I think this is a better place to start than quizzing people on how often they use PPT at school.
> 
> Warren
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/12/2011, at 10:04 AM, Martin COOMBE wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matt
>> When I started in this ICT support role at Scotch in 2006, I did a short
>> skills checklist with staff to get an understanding of everyone's skills
>> and interests. It wasn't used in any formal way for appraisal purposes or
>> similar, but more as a guide for tailoring PD and identifying who may be
>> able assist in providing support. I would be smarter than this now and use
>> an on-line survey tool like Freeonlinesurveys or Survey Monkey. You'll see
>> the attached list is pretty outdated! But it was useful at the time.
>> Cheers
>> Marty Coombe
>> maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>>> I'm about to move to a school, and have been asked to make use of a
>>> systemic ICT survey used by the NT DET.
>>> 
>>> It is a fairly long survey, with broadbrush questions that don't get down
>>> to the 'what do you actually do in the classroom with the kids' type
>>> questions.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a short survey that elicits staff's own ICT competency
>>> (without making people feel inadequate) at a personal/professional level,
>>> as well as a pedagogical content knowledge (PCK) level (aka...tailored to
>>> their own subject discipline)?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Matt.
>>> 0418-624 631
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> <ICT Skills Checklist .doc>_______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 06:12:21 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:12:21 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Staff ICT skills audit
In-Reply-To: <22BA0CB8-150F-4144-A931-2E0CE1BCB549@mac.com>
References: <99C3F63C-C15A-41E9-B7F7-E2653781A808@skoss.org>
	<fc.000f4cdf00cff3b33b9aca00ac1ec29f.cff3fd@scotch.sa.edu.au>
	<88E96F52-7A4A-4341-8DEB-1289DAF3A650@me.com>
	<22BA0CB8-150F-4144-A931-2E0CE1BCB549@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A8A7ED9B-44CD-48D0-AFAB-BFE624239AC1@gmail.com>

I totally agree with both Mike and Warren. Lists of so called skills are usually tied to software or operating systems. Using ICT in ones own life is the biggest indicator of use of ICT in the classroom. Lists outdated before they are collated. Our VELS ICT is way out of date so that students in grade one can be given some level 4/5 marks (yr 5-8) 

Cheers from Jenny

Sent from my iPad

On 05/12/2011, at 5:53 PM, Mike Wheadon <mrwheadon at mac.com> wrote:

> Great focus there Warren - 'the way most of us work in a classroom is an extension of our non-working life'  - so true!
> 
> Tom March has also some good ideas about what general ICT skills teachers need to participate in a Web 2.0. environment. A quick search will find him. 
> 
> 5 years ago I spent a lot of time developing detailed ICT skills checklists for staff and students, but it was ultimately a waste of time. It had little to what the children were learning and focused on mastering hardware and software. Focus on the learning.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 05/12/2011, at 1:24 PM, Warren McCullough <wazmac at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> A bit of a different way of looking at it?.
>> 
>> I have always found it to be more informative to find out where people are at in their use of ICT outside of school?..
>> 
>> - Do they use a digital camera?
>> - Do they use text?
>> - Do they have a non-work email account? 
>> - Did they use TripIt when they went o/s last year?
>> - Do they download songs from iTunes?
>> - Have they ever used Google Docs?
>> - Do they own a smartphone?
>> - Do they use an iPad?
>> - Do they use the Internet for 'news'?
>> - Do they use the Internet to find out what is on at the movies?
>> - Have they ever watched a movie streaming on Apple TV?
>> - Have they used 'the Cloud'? or Facebook?
>> - etc
>> - etc
>> 
>> These sort of things are very good pointers to the adoption of the use of ICT to support the curriculum in the classroom.
>> 
>> I worked with a teacher earlier this year who was the secretary of his weekend sports club. I showed him how to use Dropbox, and how to share folders with others in the club. The penny dropped - partly because he a had a personal need, and this flow on to using 'emerging technologies' at school. All of a sudden everything was in the cloud.
>> 
>> Adopt and adapt.
>> 
>> The way most of us work in a classroom is an extension of our non-classroom life - our dress code, our personality, our beliefs and values, etc - and how we use ICT. 
>> 
>> I think this is a better place to start than quizzing people on how often they use PPT at school.
>> 
>> Warren
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 05/12/2011, at 10:04 AM, Martin COOMBE wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Matt
>>> When I started in this ICT support role at Scotch in 2006, I did a short
>>> skills checklist with staff to get an understanding of everyone's skills
>>> and interests. It wasn't used in any formal way for appraisal purposes or
>>> similar, but more as a guide for tailoring PD and identifying who may be
>>> able assist in providing support. I would be smarter than this now and use
>>> an on-line survey tool like Freeonlinesurveys or Survey Monkey. You'll see
>>> the attached list is pretty outdated! But it was useful at the time.
>>> Cheers
>>> Marty Coombe
>>> maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>>>> I'm about to move to a school, and have been asked to make use of a
>>>> systemic ICT survey used by the NT DET.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a fairly long survey, with broadbrush questions that don't get down
>>>> to the 'what do you actually do in the classroom with the kids' type
>>>> questions.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a short survey that elicits staff's own ICT competency
>>>> (without making people feel inadequate) at a personal/professional level,
>>>> as well as a pedagogical content knowledge (PCK) level (aka...tailored to
>>>> their own subject discipline)?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Matt.
>>>> 0418-624 631
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <ICT Skills Checklist .doc>_______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au  Tue Dec  6 11:14:52 2011
From: bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au (Brett Moller)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:14:52 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
Message-ID: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>

Hi all,

After some recommendations on tripods for film and media students?  We shoot with DSLR's and are looking for some quality and compact tripods for students.

Cheers,

Brett




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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Tue Dec  6 12:38:02 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:38:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
In-Reply-To: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
References: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <1323135482.91628.YahooMailNeo@web112606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Brett

Good move investing in quality tripods.
One of our parents is a professional movie maker.
He made the point that the camera can be the cheapest bit of the kit, with wireless mikes on booms for good sound and stable tripods the bits that really make the difference to the end product.

Cheers
Dave


________________________________
 From: Brett Moller <bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
To: ade at lists.apple.com 
Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
 
Hi all,

After some recommendations on tripods for film and media students?? We shoot with DSLR's and are looking for some quality and compact tripods for students.

Cheers,

Brett




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From rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au  Tue Dec  6 13:00:55 2011
From: rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au (Richard Blinco)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 12:30:55 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
In-Reply-To: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
References: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
Message-ID: <C36A566F-38F6-40DE-94D4-179D2B931DF9@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Hi,

Finding good quality tripods is a tough one but pretty important. Finding compact ones is even harder. I've been using the relatively normal sized manfrotto tripods for quite a few years and they stand up to the punishment pretty well. You can supposedly but replacement spare parts. Not particularly cheap though. Check out the type of camera head very carefully though. They used to make something called a 128rc with was a relatively cheap but nice fluid video head. Most recent one I got was a 700RC2 which is also supposed to be a video head but no where near as smooth as the other.

Also had some of their monopods for use with smaller compact video cameras. This make a huge difference to the stability and quality. My experience that the small flexible grip type tripods a re useless and don't last.

Richard


On 06/12/2011, at 10:44 AM, Brett Moller wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> After some recommendations on tripods for film and media students?  We shoot with DSLR's and are looking for some quality and compact tripods for students.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brett
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Scanned by the Netbox from Netbox Blue
> (http://netboxblue.com/)
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From kel at edugator.net.au  Tue Dec  6 23:05:31 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 23:05:31 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
In-Reply-To: <C36A566F-38F6-40DE-94D4-179D2B931DF9@scotch.sa.edu.au>
References: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
	<C36A566F-38F6-40DE-94D4-179D2B931DF9@scotch.sa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20111206230531.1793580zity47rwg@webmail.netregistry.net>

Once upon a time I thought I'd save the school some money and invest  
in some cheap tripods - bad decision. They seemed stabled enough in  
the store but not so at school and soon began to fall apart. So I then  
went to the opposite extreme and bought a Manfrotto - soon decided it  
really was worth the extra $'s and bought several more, many years  
later never had a problem with any of them.

I liked them so much I bought one for my personal use and later a  
Manfrotto monopod which is really useful when travelling as it takes  
up hardly any room.

Cheers

Kel


Quoting Richard Blinco <rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au>:

> Hi,
>
> Finding good quality tripods is a tough one but pretty important.  
> Finding compact ones is even harder. I've been using the relatively  
> normal sized manfrotto tripods for quite a few years and they stand  
> up to the punishment pretty well. You can supposedly but replacement  
> spare parts. Not particularly cheap though. Check out the type of  
> camera head very carefully though. They used to make something  
> called a 128rc with was a relatively cheap but nice fluid video  
> head. Most recent one I got was a 700RC2 which is also supposed to  
> be a video head but no where near as smooth as the other.
>
> Also had some of their monopods for use with smaller compact video  
> cameras. This make a huge difference to the stability and quality.  
> My experience that the small flexible grip type tripods a re useless  
> and don't last.
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 06/12/2011, at 10:44 AM, Brett Moller wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After some recommendations on tripods for film and media students?   
>> We shoot with DSLR's and are looking for some quality and compact  
>> tripods for students.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scanned by the Netbox from Netbox Blue
>> (http://netboxblue.com/)
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>





From rwhitely at internode.on.net  Wed Dec  7 00:07:26 2011
From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:07:26 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
In-Reply-To: <20111206230531.1793580zity47rwg@webmail.netregistry.net>
References: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
	<C36A566F-38F6-40DE-94D4-179D2B931DF9@scotch.sa.edu.au>
	<20111206230531.1793580zity47rwg@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <D89D5738-A897-49D4-80B3-8D975C8092EF@internode.on.net>

So that was what you used for the duckview video at ITSC?

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net



On 06/12/2011, at 8:05 pm, kel at edugator.net.au wrote:

> Once upon a time I thought I'd save the school some money and invest in some cheap tripods - bad decision. They seemed stabled enough in the store but not so at school and soon began to fall apart. So I then went to the opposite extreme and bought a Manfrotto - soon decided it really was worth the extra $'s and bought several more, many years later never had a problem with any of them.
> 
> I liked them so much I bought one for my personal use and later a Manfrotto monopod which is really useful when travelling as it takes up hardly any room.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Kel
> 
> 
> Quoting Richard Blinco <rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au>:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Finding good quality tripods is a tough one but pretty important. Finding compact ones is even harder. I've been using the relatively normal sized manfrotto tripods for quite a few years and they stand up to the punishment pretty well. You can supposedly but replacement spare parts. Not particularly cheap though. Check out the type of camera head very carefully though. They used to make something called a 128rc with was a relatively cheap but nice fluid video head. Most recent one I got was a 700RC2 which is also supposed to be a video head but no where near as smooth as the other.
>> 
>> Also had some of their monopods for use with smaller compact video cameras. This make a huge difference to the stability and quality. My experience that the small flexible grip type tripods a re useless and don't last.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/12/2011, at 10:44 AM, Brett Moller wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> After some recommendations on tripods for film and media students?  We shoot with DSLR's and are looking for some quality and compact tripods for students.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Brett
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Scanned by the Netbox from Netbox Blue
>>> (http://netboxblue.com/)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From kel at edugator.net.au  Wed Dec  7 09:45:36 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:45:36 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box keyboard issue
In-Reply-To: <489D7E45-D286-44B8-A876-26FB6975D77F@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au>
References: <50C5B6EB-6A33-48F1-B9C6-8082D2B5F285@gmail.com>
	<EDC05664-0F0B-4586-87C8-067C9F6A9BC0@helena.wa.edu.au>
	<489D7E45-D286-44B8-A876-26FB6975D77F@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20111207094536.468331rxjce7c3cw@webmail.netregistry.net>

Getting Windows on my Mac has been long term project, two steps  
forward and one step back. Just when i thought I was there . . .

I followed the good advice of this list and loaded Virtual Box which I  
now have working with Windows on it but I cannot log into Windows  
because it doesn't seem to recognise my keyboard - need to use Control  
Alt Delete to log in but those button presses do nothing?

In VB settings, the Apple Internal keyboard is ticked under USB ports.  
The trackpad works but I can't seem to get any response from the  
keyboard.

Do I need to enable the USB 2 controller?

Thanks in anticipation

Kel



From kel at edugator.net.au  Wed Dec  7 09:50:09 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:50:09 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Film and Media Teachers
In-Reply-To: <D89D5738-A897-49D4-80B3-8D975C8092EF@internode.on.net>
References: <2FB7DB8A-D9A8-4C1E-9739-BB4108CB6761@kingscollege.qld.edu.au>
	<C36A566F-38F6-40DE-94D4-179D2B931DF9@scotch.sa.edu.au>
	<20111206230531.1793580zity47rwg@webmail.netregistry.net>
	<D89D5738-A897-49D4-80B3-8D975C8092EF@internode.on.net>
Message-ID: <20111207095009.202379c7ru1ciuos@webmail.netregistry.net>

Actually I used the most stable tripod of all - the ground, it was  
from a duck's perspective after all

Good to see you memory isn't failing . . .




Quoting Reg Whitely <rwhitely at internode.on.net>:

> So that was what you used for the duckview video at ITSC?
>
> Reg
>
> Reg Whitely
>
> Home: 08 9921 7272
> Mob: 04 8899 7313
> Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net
>
>
>
> On 06/12/2011, at 8:05 pm, kel at edugator.net.au wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time I thought I'd save the school some money and  
>> invest in some cheap tripods - bad decision. They seemed stabled  
>> enough in the store but not so at school and soon began to fall  
>> apart. So I then went to the opposite extreme and bought a  
>> Manfrotto - soon decided it really was worth the extra $'s and  
>> bought several more, many years later never had a problem with any  
>> of them.
>>
>> I liked them so much I bought one for my personal use and later a  
>> Manfrotto monopod which is really useful when travelling as it  
>> takes up hardly any room.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Kel
>>
>>
>> Quoting Richard Blinco <rblinco at scotch.sa.edu.au>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Finding good quality tripods is a tough one but pretty important.  
>>> Finding compact ones is even harder. I've been using the  
>>> relatively normal sized manfrotto tripods for quite a few years  
>>> and they stand up to the punishment pretty well. You can  
>>> supposedly but replacement spare parts. Not particularly cheap  
>>> though. Check out the type of camera head very carefully though.  
>>> They used to make something called a 128rc with was a relatively  
>>> cheap but nice fluid video head. Most recent one I got was a  
>>> 700RC2 which is also supposed to be a video head but no where near  
>>> as smooth as the other.
>>>
>>> Also had some of their monopods for use with smaller compact video  
>>> cameras. This make a huge difference to the stability and quality.  
>>> My experience that the small flexible grip type tripods a re  
>>> useless and don't last.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/12/2011, at 10:44 AM, Brett Moller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> After some recommendations on tripods for film and media  
>>>> students?  We shoot with DSLR's and are looking for some quality  
>>>> and compact tripods for students.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Brett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scanned by the Netbox from Netbox Blue
>>>> (http://netboxblue.com/)
>>>>
>>>>
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From Daryl.Wykes at stpatricks.tas.edu.au  Wed Dec  7 10:03:53 2011
From: Daryl.Wykes at stpatricks.tas.edu.au (Daryl Wykes)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:03:53 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box keyboard issue
In-Reply-To: <20111207094536.468331rxjce7c3cw@webmail.netregistry.net>
References: <50C5B6EB-6A33-48F1-B9C6-8082D2B5F285@gmail.com>
	<EDC05664-0F0B-4586-87C8-067C9F6A9BC0@helena.wa.edu.au>
	<489D7E45-D286-44B8-A876-26FB6975D77F@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au>
	<20111207094536.468331rxjce7c3cw@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <05DE58F2-F10C-4508-AB91-24CA565D2B29@stpatricks.tas.edu.au>

Hi Kel,

You can  use Control-Alt-Del by going to the vbox machine menu and selecting Insert Control-Alt-Delete, if you are running Vbox full screen then the default keyboard shortcut is Left-Command Delete on a full sized apple keyboard.

> Getting Windows on my Mac has been long term project, two steps forward and one step back. Just when i thought I was there . . .
> 
> I followed the good advice of this list and loaded Virtual Box which I now have working with Windows on it but I cannot log into Windows because it doesn't seem to recognise my keyboard - need to use Control Alt Delete to log in but those button presses do nothing?


Regards

Daryl Wykes
IT Technician
St Patrick's College - Launceston, Tasmania

www.stpatricks.tas.edu.au	|  Ph: 03 6341 9988	  |  Mobile: 0400 526 104




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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Wed Dec  7 12:54:22 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:54:22 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box keyboard issue
In-Reply-To: <20111207094536.468331rxjce7c3cw@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <CB05046E.5F86%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

Hi Kel

Try Control ALT Command Delete  instead of CTL ALT DEL. That works for me
with Fusion.

Cheers
Chris

=================================================
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Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
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On 7/12/11 8:45 AM, "kel at edugator.net.au" <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:

> Getting Windows on my Mac has been long term project, two steps
> forward and one step back. Just when i thought I was there . . .
> 
> I followed the good advice of this list and loaded Virtual Box which I
> now have working with Windows on it but I cannot log into Windows
> because it doesn't seem to recognise my keyboard - need to use Control
> Alt Delete to log in but those button presses do nothing?
> 
> In VB settings, the Apple Internal keyboard is ticked under USB ports.
> The trackpad works but I can't seem to get any response from the
> keyboard.
> 
> Do I need to enable the USB 2 controller?
> 
> Thanks in anticipation
> 
> Kel
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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> 




From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Wed Dec  7 19:30:27 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 19:30:27 +1100
Subject: [Maced] pc laptops and AP extreme
Message-ID: <a06240801cb04d3db3dd7@[10.0.0.2]>

How viable is 16 netbooks or pc eg Lenovo laptops with Airport 
Extreme. We have a network which suits at present with macbooks and 
PC laptops both running from a raoming network of  4 base stations. I 
can add a couple of Extremes or go back to scratch and have a new 
network. Any input welcomed.
Regards
Jock


From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Dec  7 20:36:30 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 01:36:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] pc laptops and AP extreme
In-Reply-To: <a06240801cb04d3db3dd7@[10.0.0.2]>
References: <a06240801cb04d3db3dd7@[10.0.0.2]>
Message-ID: <1323250590.69562.YahooMailNeo@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We use 5 extremes to cover our whole school.
One extreme regularly copes with 40 clients.

HTH

Dave


________________________________
 From: Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com>
To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 7:30 PM
Subject: [Maced] pc laptops and AP extreme
 
How viable is 16 netbooks or pc eg Lenovo laptops with Airport Extreme. We have a network which suits at present with macbooks and PC laptops both running from a raoming network of? 4 base stations. I can add a couple of Extremes or go back to scratch and have a new network. Any input welcomed.
Regards
Jock

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From matt at skoss.org  Thu Dec  8 08:24:13 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 06:54:13 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Bar codes v QR codes in a sequence
Message-ID: <C3B424FE-5E11-4D1C-AA4B-F81640429CCD@skoss.org>

A quick query about barcodes and QR codes...

In moving to a new school, I have to consider some holiday tasks such as test and tagging of all electrical cables. 

Is there a way of generating a sequence of serialised tags (eg. CMS0001, CMS0002, ...) where the corresponding barcode or QR code is generated on-the-fly?

Is there a way of printing them in-house on a tough waxy-type paper with adhesive backing, so that the tags go straight onto the cable?

Is there a good reason to use QR codes for such a low-level task?

Does anyone have a source of A4 self-adhesive paper that is fairly robust, like commercially-made asset stickers...so that we might use QR codes on all devices for asset management? I'd like to be able to print them in-house.

Many thanks.

Regards, Matt.
0418-624 631

From mallee at mac.com  Thu Dec  8 11:42:12 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:42:12 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Teachers still not provided their own laptop?
Message-ID: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>

Dear colleagues 

A seemingly basic question 

Which Australian education employers - systems, education authorities, schools - still don't in 2011 provide every teacher in their employ either a laptop or the monies to acquire a laptop?

I'm aware NSW DEC still doesn't provide one to every teacher

Many of the Catholic authorities don't - particularly in NSW

What others don't?

Kind regards

Mal Lee


Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW 2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947

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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Dec  8 11:52:16 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:52:16 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Teachers still not provided their own laptop?
In-Reply-To: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
References: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7EC4BE56-DD6D-4A11-A74E-E596FAAB51DC@det.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Mal

I would ask a slightly different question - an adequate or suitable laptop.

DEC NSW have provided netbooks to some teachers, but I don't consider these to be adequate for a teacher's use.

I am also aware of the situation in other states where the choice of laptops is very restricted, or where old technology is specified.

Greg


On 08/12/2011, at 11:42 AM, Mal Lee wrote:

Dear colleagues

A seemingly basic question

Which Australian education employers - systems, education authorities, schools - still don't in 2011 provide every teacher in their employ either a laptop or the monies to acquire a laptop?

I'm aware NSW DEC still doesn't provide one to every teacher

Many of the Catholic authorities don't - particularly in NSW

What others don't?

Kind regards

Mal Lee


Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW 2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com<http://malleehome.com/>
Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947

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From rhysted at mac.com  Thu Dec  8 12:03:27 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:03:27 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Teachers still not provided their own laptop?
In-Reply-To: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
References: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
Message-ID: <6E817430-6961-493D-AF7D-12E512CC9D9F@mac.com>

Mal,

Victoria offers teachers a subsidised lease.

1. MacBook, superceded model, for $11.50
2. Lenovo 13", entry level model for $4.00

Both have a 4 year warrantee and are insured.

Both are not up to standard (IMHO) for 4 years of teacher use.

Many teachers who previously opted for a Mac used the AEU offer and purchased their own MacBook Pro to salary sacrifice.

Rod

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School

View St, Healesville 3777

PO Box 222, Healesville 3777

Phone: 613 5962 4053
Fax: 613 5962 6201



On 08/12/2011, at 11:42 AM, Mal Lee wrote:

Dear colleagues 

A seemingly basic question 

Which Australian education employers - systems, education authorities, schools - still don't in 2011 provide every teacher in their employ either a laptop or the monies to acquire a laptop?

I'm aware NSW DEC still doesn't provide one to every teacher

Many of the Catholic authorities don't - particularly in NSW

What others don't?

Kind regards

Mal Lee


Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW 2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947

_______________________________________________
Maced mailing list
Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From mallee at mac.com  Thu Dec  8 12:51:04 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:51:04 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Teachers still not provided their own laptop?
In-Reply-To: <7EC4BE56-DD6D-4A11-A74E-E596FAAB51DC@det.nsw.edu.au>
References: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
	<7EC4BE56-DD6D-4A11-A74E-E596FAAB51DC@det.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CE0D13AF-EBA5-41BE-A37E-1D4180914199@mac.com>

Greg

Don't disagree 

But mine is a first order question when you bear in some systems have been providing the kit since the late 90's - and others are still do so

Just want clarity on the national scene

Am actually somewhat surprised that with all the BER brouhaha the question was not addressed

Cheers

Mal
On 08/12/2011, at 11:52 AM, Norris, Greg wrote:

> Hi Mal
> 
> I would ask a slightly different question - an adequate or suitable laptop.
> 
> DEC NSW have provided netbooks to some teachers, but I don't consider these to be adequate for a teacher's use.
> 
> I am also aware of the situation in other states where the choice of laptops is very restricted, or where old technology is specified.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On 08/12/2011, at 11:42 AM, Mal Lee wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues
> 
> A seemingly basic question
> 
> Which Australian education employers - systems, education authorities, schools - still don't in 2011 provide every teacher in their employ either a laptop or the monies to acquire a laptop?
> 
> I'm aware NSW DEC still doesn't provide one to every teacher
> 
> Many of the Catholic authorities don't - particularly in NSW
> 
> What others don't?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mal Lee
> 
> 
> Author/educational consultant
> PO Box 5010 Broulee
> NSW 2537 Australia
> http://malleehome.com<http://malleehome.com/>
> Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au<mailto:Maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
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> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you
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From mallee at mac.com  Thu Dec  8 12:56:48 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:56:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Teachers still not provided their own laptop?
In-Reply-To: <6E817430-6961-493D-AF7D-12E512CC9D9F@mac.com>
References: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
	<6E817430-6961-493D-AF7D-12E512CC9D9F@mac.com>
Message-ID: <0C967045-BC71-4D92-9590-EEE30FE2998A@mac.com>

Rod

Correct me if I'm wrong - but at least Victoria has been providing one would have to say significant teacher computing support for a decade at least?

Mal


On 08/12/2011, at 12:03 PM, Rod Hysted wrote:

> Mal,
> 
> Victoria offers teachers a subsidised lease.
> 
> 1. MacBook, superceded model, for $11.50
> 2. Lenovo 13", entry level model for $4.00
> 
> Both have a 4 year warrantee and are insured.
> 
> Both are not up to standard (IMHO) for 4 years of teacher use.
> 
> Many teachers who previously opted for a Mac used the AEU offer and purchased their own MacBook Pro to salary sacrifice.
> 
> Rod
> 
> Rod Hysted
> Assistant Principal
> Healesville Primary School
> 
> View St, Healesville 3777
> 
> PO Box 222, Healesville 3777
> 
> Phone: 613 5962 4053
> Fax: 613 5962 6201
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/12/2011, at 11:42 AM, Mal Lee wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues 
> 
> A seemingly basic question 
> 
> Which Australian education employers - systems, education authorities, schools - still don't in 2011 provide every teacher in their employ either a laptop or the monies to acquire a laptop?
> 
> I'm aware NSW DEC still doesn't provide one to every teacher
> 
> Many of the Catholic authorities don't - particularly in NSW
> 
> What others don't?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mal Lee
> 
> 
> Author/educational consultant
> PO Box 5010 Broulee
> NSW 2537 Australia
> http://malleehome.com
> Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From rhysted at mac.com  Thu Dec  8 20:39:59 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:39:59 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Teachers still not provided their own laptop?
In-Reply-To: <0C967045-BC71-4D92-9590-EEE30FE2998A@mac.com>
References: <D34CD208-CFE4-4E2A-B2EF-413BCDDBB194@mac.com>
	<6E817430-6961-493D-AF7D-12E512CC9D9F@mac.com>
	<0C967045-BC71-4D92-9590-EEE30FE2998A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F15DA88A-E28B-4828-B2D8-9BD3C1819AB8@mac.com>

Yes Mal,

That is true. I'm just greedy and would like the government to provide teachers with the technology that would be at least a bit more long lived than it currently is. That is one reason that I purchase my own tech, and am happy to do so.

Although, I can't see why the lease is nearly 3 times as much for a Mac over a Lenovo, especially considering that the Mac is a superseded model. Sour grapes, I know.

Regards

Rod

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School
Ph: 613 5962 4053

Sent from Rod's iPad 2

On 08/12/2011, at 12:56 PM, Mal Lee <mallee at mac.com> wrote:

> Rod
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong - but at least Victoria has been providing one would have to say significant teacher computing support for a decade at least?
> 
> Mal
> 
> 
> On 08/12/2011, at 12:03 PM, Rod Hysted wrote:
> 
>> Mal,
>> 
>> Victoria offers teachers a subsidised lease.
>> 
>> 1. MacBook, superceded model, for $11.50
>> 2. Lenovo 13", entry level model for $4.00
>> 
>> Both have a 4 year warrantee and are insured.
>> 
>> Both are not up to standard (IMHO) for 4 years of teacher use.
>> 
>> Many teachers who previously opted for a Mac used the AEU offer and purchased their own MacBook Pro to salary sacrifice.
>> 
>> Rod
>> 
>> Rod Hysted
>> Assistant Principal
>> Healesville Primary School
>> 
>> View St, Healesville 3777
>> 
>> PO Box 222, Healesville 3777
>> 
>> Phone: 613 5962 4053
>> Fax: 613 5962 6201
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/12/2011, at 11:42 AM, Mal Lee wrote:
>> 
>> Dear colleagues 
>> 
>> A seemingly basic question 
>> 
>> Which Australian education employers - systems, education authorities, schools - still don't in 2011 provide every teacher in their employ either a laptop or the monies to acquire a laptop?
>> 
>> I'm aware NSW DEC still doesn't provide one to every teacher
>> 
>> Many of the Catholic authorities don't - particularly in NSW
>> 
>> What others don't?
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Mal Lee
>> 
>> 
>> Author/educational consultant
>> PO Box 5010 Broulee
>> NSW 2537 Australia
>> http://malleehome.com
>> Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> Author/educational consultant
> PO Box 5010 Broulee
> NSW 2537 Australia
> http://malleehome.com
> Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947
> 
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 17:08:48 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:08:48 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
Message-ID: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>

Hi Everyone

I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.

1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?

2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?

I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!

Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
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GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 17:34:24 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:34:24 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apple TV
Message-ID: <D23D5C6D-68C7-4162-86B2-7369330C82CE@gmail.com>

Hi 
Has anyone tried using an Apple TV in their classrooms connected to a data projector and synced to iPads etc. 
If so, (a) how many iPads can you sync? (b) Can you sync anything or is it just iTunes etc and lastly (c) how effective is it? I am going to buy an Apple TV and trial it in our school but i wanted some heads up first.

Regards
Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

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From thegafferguy at me.com  Fri Dec  9 18:03:12 2011
From: thegafferguy at me.com (Shawn Taggart)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:03:12 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apple TV
In-Reply-To: <D23D5C6D-68C7-4162-86B2-7369330C82CE@gmail.com>
References: <D23D5C6D-68C7-4162-86B2-7369330C82CE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F6ED1C8-4B09-4A26-8715-0B420755D6D6@me.com>

Hi Mark

We have an Apple TV in each room and the staff and students mirror their iPads on it. It is only one at a time but they can easily go through a class of students in a lesson. It works well as long as they are all on one network.

Good luck
Shawn Taggart
Acacia College
Melbourne Australia


On 09/12/2011, at 5:34 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Hi 
> Has anyone tried using an Apple TV in their classrooms connected to a data projector and synced to iPads etc. 
> If so, (a) how many iPads can you sync? (b) Can you sync anything or is it just iTunes etc and lastly (c) how effective is it? I am going to buy an Apple TV and trial it in our school but i wanted some heads up first.
> 
> Regards
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>    
> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From p.coutas at murdoch.edu.au  Fri Dec  9 18:17:33 2011
From: p.coutas at murdoch.edu.au (Penelope Coutas)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:17:33 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Apple TV
In-Reply-To: <4F6ED1C8-4B09-4A26-8715-0B420755D6D6@me.com>
Message-ID: <CB07D70D.8B3A%p.coutas@murdoch.edu.au>

Hi Mark (and all),

I also found it very effective to use during cooking lessons ? use the
iPad/iPhone camera to beam what?s happening at the back of the room to the
front. Huge potential as a portable document camera in low-tech classroom
environments (e.g. Sharing student paper-based worksheets). It?s well worth
considering a data projector with HDMI input next time you buy one for this
alone :)

Biggest tip I have is to turn home sharing on straight away. If you don?t,
and you lose the remote, it?s very painful to try and operate the AppleTV!
In fact, near impossible!

Salam hormat,

Penny.


On 9/12/11 3:03 PM, "Shawn Taggart" <thegafferguy at me.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark
> 
> We have an Apple TV in each room and the staff and students mirror their iPads
> on it. It is only one at a time but they can easily go through a class of
> students in a lesson. It works well as long as they are all on one network.
> 
> Good luck
> Shawn Taggart
> Acacia College
> Melbourne Australia
> 
> 
> On 09/12/2011, at 5:34 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> Hi 
>> Has anyone tried using an Apple TV in their classrooms connected to a data
>> projector and synced to iPads etc.
>> If so, (a) how many iPads can you sync? (b) Can you sync anything or is it
>> just iTunes etc and lastly (c) how effective is it? I am going to buy an
>> Apple TV and trial it in our school but i wanted some heads up first.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com <x-msg://1728/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com>
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> <http://www.royaldubaischool.com/>
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> <http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com/>
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1
>> -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>    
>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> 
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 19:34:37 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 12:34:37 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apple TV
In-Reply-To: <CB07D70D.8B3A%p.coutas@murdoch.edu.au>
References: <CB07D70D.8B3A%p.coutas@murdoch.edu.au>
Message-ID: <EC9D55A6-5273-48F2-AF52-68DC1D8CD918@gmail.com>

This is so useful. Thank you!
Mark
On 9 Dec 2011, at 11:17, Penelope Coutas wrote:

> Hi Mark (and all),
> 
> I also found it very effective to use during cooking lessons ? use the iPad/iPhone camera to beam what?s happening at the back of the room to the front. Huge potential as a portable document camera in low-tech classroom environments (e.g. Sharing student paper-based worksheets). It?s well worth considering a data projector with HDMI input next time you buy one for this alone :)
> 
> Biggest tip I have is to turn home sharing on straight away. If you don?t, and you lose the remote, it?s very painful to try and operate the AppleTV!  In fact, near impossible!
> 
> Salam hormat,
> 
> Penny.
> 
> 
> On 9/12/11 3:03 PM, "Shawn Taggart" <thegafferguy at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> We have an Apple TV in each room and the staff and students mirror their iPads on it. It is only one at a time but they can easily go through a class of students in a lesson. It works well as long as they are all on one network.
>> 
>> Good luck
>> Shawn Taggart
>> Acacia College
>> Melbourne Australia
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/12/2011, at 5:34 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi 
>>> Has anyone tried using an Apple TV in their classrooms connected to a data projector and synced to iPads etc. 
>>> If so, (a) how many iPads can you sync? (b) Can you sync anything or is it just iTunes etc and lastly (c) how effective is it? I am going to buy an Apple TV and trial it in our school but i wanted some heads up first.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Mark Stone
>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com <x-msg://1728/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com> 
>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com <http://www.royaldubaischool.com/> 
>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com <http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com/> 
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>>   
>>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> _______________________________________________
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From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Fri Dec  9 20:14:19 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Mike Parker)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:14:19 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
In-Reply-To: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>
References: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Mark,

I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write.  Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.

Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.

You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.

Mike

On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Hi Everyone
> 
> I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
> 
> 1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
> 
> 2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
> 
> I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
> 
> Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>    
> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Fri Dec  9 20:18:12 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:18:12 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apple TV
In-Reply-To: <EC9D55A6-5273-48F2-AF52-68DC1D8CD918@gmail.com>
References: <CB07D70D.8B3A%p.coutas@murdoch.edu.au>
	<EC9D55A6-5273-48F2-AF52-68DC1D8CD918@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A9CA9DD4-6093-4D19-9100-AF08627495D7@optusnet.com.au>

Mark have you thought of using plex. We have a mac with an external tb drive acting as our plex server and all the macs and ipads can connect to it. Best thing it's free and all you need is a mac to act as the server . Contact me off list for more details.

John

On 09/12/2011, at 7:34 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> This is so useful. Thank you!
> Mark
> On 9 Dec 2011, at 11:17, Penelope Coutas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark (and all),
>> 
>> I also found it very effective to use during cooking lessons ? use the iPad/iPhone camera to beam what?s happening at the back of the room to the front. Huge potential as a portable document camera in low-tech classroom environments (e.g. Sharing student paper-based worksheets). It?s well worth considering a data projector with HDMI input next time you buy one for this alone :)
>> 
>> Biggest tip I have is to turn home sharing on straight away. If you don?t, and you lose the remote, it?s very painful to try and operate the AppleTV!  In fact, near impossible!
>> 
>> Salam hormat,
>> 
>> Penny.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/12/11 3:03 PM, "Shawn Taggart" <thegafferguy at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark
>>> 
>>> We have an Apple TV in each room and the staff and students mirror their iPads on it. It is only one at a time but they can easily go through a class of students in a lesson. It works well as long as they are all on one network.
>>> 
>>> Good luck
>>> Shawn Taggart
>>> Acacia College
>>> Melbourne Australia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/12/2011, at 5:34 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi 
>>>> Has anyone tried using an Apple TV in their classrooms connected to a data projector and synced to iPads etc. 
>>>> If so, (a) how many iPads can you sync? (b) Can you sync anything or is it just iTunes etc and lastly (c) how effective is it? I am going to buy an Apple TV and trial it in our school but i wanted some heads up first.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Stone
>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com <x-msg://1728/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com> 
>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com <http://www.royaldubaischool.com/> 
>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com <http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com/> 
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>>>   
>>>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 20:45:15 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:45:15 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
In-Reply-To: <68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
References: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>
	<68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <5B5A7F87-6E3D-461D-8845-E9BFF6A374D4@gmail.com>

Hi Mike
Thanks for this ? it sounds complicated (probably just me and its not). However why is what I am suggesting not a good idea.
Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

On 9 Dec 2011, at 13:14, Mike Parker wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write.  Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.
> 
> Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.
> 
> You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone
>> 
>> I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
>> 
>> 1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
>> 
>> 2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
>> 
>> I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
>> 
>> Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>    
>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Fri Dec  9 20:50:28 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 01:50:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
In-Reply-To: <68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
References: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>
	<68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <1323424228.94921.YahooMailNeo@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

http://wazmac.com/servers_network/fileservers/osxserver_setupnotes.htm



________________________________
 From: Mike Parker <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au 
Cc: PHILIP KENNETH REDHEAD <P.REDHEAD_RDS at gemsedu.com> 
Sent: Friday, 9 December 2011 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] Macserver questions
 

Hi Mark,

I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write. ?Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.

Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.

You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.

Mike


On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

Hi Everyone
>
>
>I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
>
>
>1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home ?folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
>
>
>2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
>
>
>I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
>
>
>Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
>
>
>Mark
>
>
>Mark Stone
>ICT Learning Coach
>
>GEMS Royal Dubai School
>PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>Email: ????????m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>Website: ???http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>Twitter: ?????http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>Blog: ??????????http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>
>
>GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
><PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>???<PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
>_______________________________________________
>Maced mailing list
>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Fri Dec  9 21:15:55 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Mike Parker)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 21:15:55 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
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Hi Mark,

Managing a server properly is to some degree complex.  Apple simplifies it, but you need to understand the basics so that you can have the confidence/ability to achieve your goals.

I'm having a hard time following what you had done previously, so I can't comment on it.  But in short, you need an ACL (access control list) to ensure that the teachers will have access to the students files, but these ACL's should not be on home directories as it will affect the performance of the server.

Mike

On 09/12/2011, at 8:45 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Hi Mike
> Thanks for this ? it sounds complicated (probably just me and its not). However why is what I am suggesting not a good idea.
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>    
> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
> On 9 Dec 2011, at 13:14, Mike Parker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write.  Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.
>> 
>> Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.
>> 
>> You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> 
>>> I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
>>> 
>>> 1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
>>> 
>>> 2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
>>> 
>>> I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Mark Stone
>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>>    
>>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 23:54:07 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:54:07 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
In-Reply-To: <DC49A531-6D4F-46A3-9B3A-D901C44AF3FF@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
References: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>
	<68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
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Thanks Mike.

We only have one room of Macs, so at any given time there will not be a huge amount of USERS. In saying thatI want to learn to do this correctly. So I will be doing my best follow what you and others say.

Looking forward to some more advice.
There are too many cowboys around here who think they know or say they are qualified. 

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

On 9 Dec 2011, at 14:15, Mike Parker wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Managing a server properly is to some degree complex.  Apple simplifies it, but you need to understand the basics so that you can have the confidence/ability to achieve your goals.
> 
> I'm having a hard time following what you had done previously, so I can't comment on it.  But in short, you need an ACL (access control list) to ensure that the teachers will have access to the students files, but these ACL's should not be on home directories as it will affect the performance of the server.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 09/12/2011, at 8:45 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike
>> Thanks for this ? it sounds complicated (probably just me and its not). However why is what I am suggesting not a good idea.
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>    
>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> On 9 Dec 2011, at 13:14, Mike Parker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write.  Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.
>>> 
>>> You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>> 
>>>> I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
>>>> 
>>>> 2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
>>>> 
>>>> I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Stone
>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>>>    
>>>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 00:00:29 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 17:00:29 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
In-Reply-To: <1323424228.94921.YahooMailNeo@web112610.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <5FE499AE-1D00-4E56-98C2-CA3C316E0847@gmail.com>
	<68BC9DDE-C570-4637-B96C-687F105654AC@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
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Thanks Dave
Yes this is going to be very useful ? in fact it will save my life!
Brilliant

Mark

On 9 Dec 2011, at 13:50, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> http://wazmac.com/servers_network/fileservers/osxserver_setupnotes.htm
> 
> From: Mike Parker <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au 
> Cc: PHILIP KENNETH REDHEAD <P.REDHEAD_RDS at gemsedu.com> 
> Sent: Friday, 9 December 2011 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Maced] Macserver questions
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write.  Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.
> 
> Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.
> 
> You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone
>> 
>> I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
>> 
>> 1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
>> 
>> 2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
>> 
>> I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
>> 
>> Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>    
>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From chaynes at immanuelps.sa.edu.au  Sat Dec 10 07:30:53 2011
From: chaynes at immanuelps.sa.edu.au (Christine Haynes)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:00:53 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Macserver questions
In-Reply-To: <3A5D5AE0-C7B4-49A9-B5D2-8D82D3FA4476@gmail.com>
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Hi Mark, 
I'd suggest you give your group structure some thought. For instance we have both staff and student group structures. For students we have : default student group, a JP group, a Sr primary group, year level and class groups. This allows us to assign access rights, print budgets, web filters, dock items and wiki permissions in the right places. So.. A student is a member of a particular class which gives them r/w privileges  to their class folder in a share point called "shared files". They get read privileges to the year level resources, a default student print budget, access to read their year level wiki page and edit their class page, and the right web filtering policy. Once you setup your groups to allow for the way you want things to work, you can define the ACLs once and avoid further access issues. This reesign came from ACL inconsistencies and resulting frustrations.  For staff we have a less complicated structure desktop or laptop user, print budget and staff policy for Internet and wiki access. The wiki side is great as Apple Wiki Server interfaces with the groups in OD. We prefix these management groups with MCX_ so we know which are management groups.

I started with a diagram showing how I wanted this to work then had someone with the technical knowhow implement. Happy to share if  you want to contact me off list.
 
 chaynes at immanuelps.sa.edu.au

Chistine Haynes
ICT Coordinator
Immanuel Primary School


On 09/12/2011, at 11:30 PM, Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Dave
> Yes this is going to be very useful ? in fact it will save my life!
> Brilliant
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 9 Dec 2011, at 13:50, Dave Hounsell wrote:
> 
>> http://wazmac.com/servers_network/fileservers/osxserver_setupnotes.htm
>> 
>> From: Mike Parker <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au 
>> Cc: PHILIP KENNETH REDHEAD <P.REDHEAD_RDS at gemsedu.com> 
>> Sent: Friday, 9 December 2011 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Maced] Macserver questions
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> I think what you want to do is setup a shared folder on your server and give the students access (probably through a group) to either read and write, or just write.  Then have a group for your teachers to have an access control list, which gives them full control over the files.
>> 
>> Unfortunately those instructions might not make much sense to most folks, but I think thats what you need to do.
>> 
>> You can look on youtube to see some videos on "afp server" that might help you out.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 09/12/2011, at 5:08 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> 
>>> I have a TWO questions about USERS and the MACSERVER.
>>> 
>>> 1. I want the teachers to be able to log on to the Macserver via "connect to server" and see all the students profiles. They need to be able to open the files and copy etc as needed. The way i have done this in the past is to create a folder in their HOME folder and have the students save all their work there. I did that because when you look at the home  folders (Music, Movies, Documents etc) of each student, the folder all have the no access red circle on the folder. I also don't want to be giving out logins and passwords to the server to all the teachers. This seems to have worked in the past for me. BUT ? is it the best way and better still is it the right way to do it?? Can someone enlighten me?
>>> 
>>> 2. When i am setting up a new user in WGM, do i need to have more than one USERS home drive/directory i.e. Administrator, Teachers/TA's and students. it doesn't seem to me to matter. What are the advantages?
>>> 
>>> I am certain i have some of my terminology wrong, so apologies for that. I'm sure some can put me right on that too!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the help you are all giving me with things. Its brilliant. This group has become one of my key Personal Learning Networks.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Mark Stone
>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf>
>>>    
>>> <PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
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From mallee at mac.com  Sun Dec 11 11:38:26 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:38:26 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Australian teacher laptop scene
Message-ID: <5187AC79-C676-4051-9A17-24493A9F4C9E@mac.com>

Dear colleagues

Thank you to everyone who wrote

Sadly one has to say the Australian scene is a classic hodge podge with with suspect only around 50% of teachers being provided gear by their employers

It is an irrational mess - with a significant body of schools from the state/catholic and independent sector not providing the gear - for all manner of spurious reasons

More disturbingly no national work has ever been done on the situation - even as part of the DER initiative 

Our 'survey' appears to be one of the first

The contrast with NZ where every teacher has one is pronounced....

Am now talking about how to begin redressing the shortcomings

Kind regards

Mal Lee


Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW 2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Sun Dec 11 12:47:16 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:47:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Australian teacher laptop scene
In-Reply-To: <5187AC79-C676-4051-9A17-24493A9F4C9E@mac.com>
References: <5187AC79-C676-4051-9A17-24493A9F4C9E@mac.com>
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Laptops and/or iPads for teachers are the most critically needed reform.
I would add to this a large display device in every classroom.

Congratulations on your research - it is timely and needed.
It beggars belief that DER missed the opportunity.


________________________________
 From: Mal Lee <mallee at mac.com>
To: OZTL_Net <OZTL_NET at listserv.csu.edu.au>; MacEd for educators <maced at zeus.as.edu.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2011 11:38 AM
Subject: [Maced] Australian teacher laptop scene
 

Dear colleagues

Thank you to everyone who wrote

Sadly one has to say the Australian scene is a classic hodge podge with with suspect only around 50% of teachers being provided gear by their employers

It is an irrational mess - with a significant body of schools from the state/catholic and independent sector not providing the gear - for all manner of spurious reasons

More disturbingly no national work has ever been done on the situation - even as part of the DER initiative?

Our 'survey' appears to be one of the first

The contrast with NZ where every teacher has one is pronounced....

Am now talking about how to begin redressing the shortcomings

Kind regards

Mal Lee



Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW 2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44 717 947 

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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Tue Dec 13 08:19:39 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:19:39 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Macserver
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Good morning Mark,

Yes this is due to the default permissions set for home directories.  Are you wanting all teachers to have access to students home folders?

The option Apple would suggest is telling the students to move their completed files from their Documents folder to the Public folder as this folder gives everyone read access.  However this then also gives all other students read access too.

The other thing you can do is adjust the permissions on students home folders to enable staff to read, easily done BUT BE CAREFUL using these commands if you are unfamiliar with them!

Do you know how to use Terminal and chgrp (or even chmod)?

I'm assuming your setup is like this:

\Users\student1
\Users\student1\Desktop
\Users\student1\Documents
\Users\student1\Library
\Users\student1\Music
etc..
\Users\student2

You could run this command on the root folder of all students home folders (ie cd to \)

sudo chgrp -R teachers_group Users

What this does is "sudo" means run this as super user or root, it will ask for your administrators password, "chgrp" is a command to change the group owner of a file, "-R" is recursive so will continue for all files and folders within this folder, "teachers_group" is the group of teachers in Open Directory or Active Directory and finally "Users" is the name of the folder that houses all your students home folders.

So this command will set all members of the "teachers_group" permission to read all files within Users.

NOTE: If you also have your Staffs home folders on this same server in the same location it will apply these settings to them too, therefore your teachers will be able to see all other teachers home folders.  If this is the case we may need to look at adjusting the script using a grep to only do it to students.

Be very careful when using sudo and chgrp, if it is done in the wrong place or with the wrong settings things can really be stuffed up!!!


What we prefer to do is we have what we call a "Assignment Drop Folder" which is a shared folder on the server.  Staff have read/write access and students have read access.  Within this folder I have a folder for each teacher where students don't have read access but they have write access.  This then enables the students when they have completed to Drop their completed assignment into their teachers Drop Folder as they have permission to write, but students can't read to see other students work.

This is much easier on the teachers as they only have to access one folder to collect all the assignments rather than looking through all of their students home folders and trying to find the correct file.  I would highly recommend a solution more like this.

Sam.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au


On 13/12/2011, at 3:02 AM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Hi Sam
> Things are going along quite nicely here. We need the Volume Licencing program desperately. dealing with all our devices will be a nightmare. However we are making a start. Email addresses for Apple ID first!
> 
> I have another question for you relating to the Macserver. This is looking ok and will do the kob in its present setup. When I log on to the Mac server via 'connect to server' I can see all the USER home directories. However when i open one up i find i don't have permission to open 'documents' or 'Music' etc. I have had this problem in the past and have just created another folder with all that students profile work in it. Whilst it has worked successfully and is easy to get to for teachers, I also know its not a correct way of doing things. 
> 
> So what is the correct way? Is there a simpler way? 
> 
> I appreciate your help and apologies for rattling on like this. However i think we are just about there now.
> 
> Regards
> MArk
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
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> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>    
> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
> On 29 Nov 2011, at 01:56, Sam Osborne wrote:
> 
>> Good morning Matt,
>> 
>> I have an Eye-Fi card which is an SD card that has Wi-fi capabilities.  Basically you setup the card to the Wireless network and pair it with your computer.  Then whenever you take a photo it is instantly transferred over the wireless to the computer - and can be saved directly to a folder or imported to iPhoto or even uploaded and shared on Flickr or Facebook etc.
>> 
>> Has pretty good Mac compatibility and works well.  Not sure if this is something you may be interested in.
>> 
>> http://www.eye.fi/ 
>> 
>> This way the photos are automatically in a folder on the computer and you can drag them into Keynote etc
>> _________________________
>> Sam Osborne
>> IT Technician
>> MacKillop College
>> t : 02 6338 2200
>> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
>> 
>> On 29/11/2011, at 6:09 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:
>> 
>>> I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
>>> 
>>> Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?
>>> 
>>> I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.
>>> 
>>> I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Matt.
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From mbenn at denbigh.com.au  Wed Dec 14 00:40:43 2011
From: mbenn at denbigh.com.au (Murray Benn)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:40:43 +0800
Subject: [Maced] iTunes Gift Certificates
Message-ID: <56F4A7DB-7FB0-4D15-AD14-0945FECEBD7B@denbigh.com.au>

G'day all,

I'm wanting to buy an iTunes gift certificate (delivered by email, not snail mail) for a family member in the US.   Said friend has a US iTunes account.  It appears that gift certificates can only be purchased through the iTunes store, and not via a website on a credit card.   The iTunes Store, however, requires that certificates purchased on the Aussie store, are redeemed through the Aussie store.   Doesn't help me a lot.   Any way to do it easily??  

Thanks.
-- 
Murray Benn
Director
Denbigh International Pty Ltd
A FileMaker Business Alliance - Platinum Member 
PO Box 3166   Narellan   2567
Ph:  1300 788 948
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From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Dec 14 06:53:42 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:53:42 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iTunes Gift Certificates
In-Reply-To: <56F4A7DB-7FB0-4D15-AD14-0945FECEBD7B@denbigh.com.au>
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Hi Murray

Can you gift the amount via iTunes?  I'm not sure if it'll work from Oz store to US store

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/12/2011, at 11:40 PM, Murray Benn <mbenn at denbigh.com.au> wrote:

> G'day all,
> 
> I'm wanting to buy an iTunes gift certificate (delivered by email, not snail mail) for a family member in the US.   Said friend has a US iTunes account.  It appears that gift certificates can only be purchased through the iTunes store, and not via a website on a credit card.   The iTunes Store, however, requires that certificates purchased on the Aussie store, are redeemed through the Aussie store.   Doesn't help me a lot.   Any way to do it easily??  
> 
> Thanks.
> -- 
> Murray Benn
> Director
> Denbigh International Pty Ltd
> A FileMaker Business Alliance - Platinum Member 
> PO Box 3166   Narellan   2567
> Ph:  1300 788 948
> Ph:  (02) 4647 1375
> Fax: (02) 4647 3410
> e-mail: mbenn at denbigh.com.au
> www:  http://www.denbigh.com.au
> 
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Dec 14 07:02:42 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:02:42 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iTunes Gift Certificates
In-Reply-To: <FB682C4E-25F2-4A01-B750-C1F63DC3A94D@mac.com>
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Can you create an account in the US store?


On 14/12/2011, at 6:53 AM, Wes Warner wrote:

Hi Murray

Can you gift the amount via iTunes?  I'm not sure if it'll work from Oz store to US store

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

On 13/12/2011, at 11:40 PM, Murray Benn <mbenn at denbigh.com.au<mailto:mbenn at denbigh.com.au>> wrote:

G'day all,

I'm wanting to buy an iTunes gift certificate (delivered by email, not snail mail) for a family member in the US.   Said friend has a US iTunes account.  It appears that gift certificates can only be purchased through the iTunes store, and not via a website on a credit card.   The iTunes Store, however, requires that certificates purchased on the Aussie store, are redeemed through the Aussie store.   Doesn't help me a lot.   Any way to do it easily??

Thanks.
--
Murray Benn
Director
Denbigh International Pty Ltd
A FileMaker Business Alliance - Platinum Member
PO Box 3166   Narellan   2567
Ph:  1300 788 948
Ph:  (02) 4647 1375
Fax: (02) 4647 3410
e-mail: mbenn at denbigh.com.au<mailto:mbenn at denbigh.com.au>
www:  http://www.denbigh.com.au<http://www.denbigh.com.au/>




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From rhysted at mac.com  Wed Dec 14 07:08:42 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:08:42 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iTunes Gift Certificates
In-Reply-To: <BE284A3B-B534-4FFC-A0A9-B575E4E85846@det.nsw.edu.au>
References: <56F4A7DB-7FB0-4D15-AD14-0945FECEBD7B@denbigh.com.au>
	<FB682C4E-25F2-4A01-B750-C1F63DC3A94D@mac.com>
	<BE284A3B-B534-4FFC-A0A9-B575E4E85846@det.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <0518070D-8588-4D50-AE20-0CBAC454F5D4@mac.com>

I think you need and American credit card for that.

Rod

PS Try iTunes support, they could have a solution.

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School
Ph: 613 5962 4053

Sent from Rod's iPad 2

On 14/12/2011, at 7:02 AM, "Norris, Greg" <Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Can you create an account in the US store?
> 
> 
> On 14/12/2011, at 6:53 AM, Wes Warner wrote:
> 
> Hi Murray
> 
> Can you gift the amount via iTunes?  I'm not sure if it'll work from Oz store to US store
> 
> Wes Warner
> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
> Head of Technology
> Genesis Christian College
> @I_Teach_ICT
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13/12/2011, at 11:40 PM, Murray Benn <mbenn at denbigh.com.au<mailto:mbenn at denbigh.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> I'm wanting to buy an iTunes gift certificate (delivered by email, not snail mail) for a family member in the US.   Said friend has a US iTunes account.  It appears that gift certificates can only be purchased through the iTunes store, and not via a website on a credit card.   The iTunes Store, however, requires that certificates purchased on the Aussie store, are redeemed through the Aussie store.   Doesn't help me a lot.   Any way to do it easily??
> 
> Thanks.
> --
> Murray Benn
> Director
> Denbigh International Pty Ltd
> A FileMaker Business Alliance - Platinum Member
> PO Box 3166   Narellan   2567
> Ph:  1300 788 948
> Ph:  (02) 4647 1375
> Fax: (02) 4647 3410
> e-mail: mbenn at denbigh.com.au<mailto:mbenn at denbigh.com.au>
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> 
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From mlevins at as.edu.au  Wed Dec 14 08:45:17 2011
From: mlevins at as.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:45:17 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iTunes Gift Certificates
In-Reply-To: <56F4A7DB-7FB0-4D15-AD14-0945FECEBD7B@denbigh.com.au>
References: <56F4A7DB-7FB0-4D15-AD14-0945FECEBD7B@denbigh.com.au>
Message-ID: <D47D4487-1E51-4107-8405-162971ACE4C9@as.edu.au>

Hi Murray

Google "us iTunes cards"

You'll find several "resellers" who will put a margin on a cards value and email you a code to use on the us store

Cheers
Martin

Sent from my shoephone

On 13/12/2011, at 23:40, Murray Benn <mbenn at denbigh.com.au> wrote:

> G'day all,
> 
> I'm wanting to buy an iTunes gift certificate (delivered by email, not snail mail) for a family member in the US.   Said friend has a US iTunes account.  It appears that gift certificates can only be purchased through the iTunes store, and not via a website on a credit card.   The iTunes Store, however, requires that certificates purchased on the Aussie store, are redeemed through the Aussie store.   Doesn't help me a lot.   Any way to do it easily??  
> 
> Thanks.
> -- 
> Murray Benn
> Director
> Denbigh International Pty Ltd
> A FileMaker Business Alliance - Platinum Member 
> PO Box 3166   Narellan   2567
> Ph:  1300 788 948
> Ph:  (02) 4647 1375
> Fax: (02) 4647 3410
> e-mail: mbenn at denbigh.com.au
> www:  http://www.denbigh.com.au
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From craigluce at bigpond.com  Sun Dec 18 10:35:42 2011
From: craigluce at bigpond.com (Craig Timms)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:35:42 +1000
Subject: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
Message-ID: <F9E59F20-922D-477E-BD4A-654998A07E58@bigpond.com>

Good morning

My husband has an itunes account on our mac and syncs his iphone, ipod etc to it. I have an iphone as well but I think we need to set up another itunes account so I can manage my phone etc, without all our contacts and data merging together. Is this true? If it is, then we have tried to create a new account for me,using our email, but itunes keeps telling me that we already have an account that uses this email address. Looking for some advice. Are we on the right track?

Finally, I really enjoy reading the questions and help offered throughout the year!

Regards

Lucinda

From garry at gstokes.org  Sun Dec 18 11:07:08 2011
From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:07:08 +1100
Subject: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
In-Reply-To: <F9E59F20-922D-477E-BD4A-654998A07E58@bigpond.com>
References: <F9E59F20-922D-477E-BD4A-654998A07E58@bigpond.com>
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yes you need another email
if you are using gmail there is always the name+something at gmail.com
trick,  but i have not used it with itunes

On 18 December 2011 10:35, Craig Timms <craigluce at bigpond.com> wrote:
> Good morning
>
> My husband has an itunes account on our mac and syncs his iphone, ipod etc to it. I have an iphone as well but I think we need to set up another itunes account so I can manage my phone etc, without all our contacts and data merging together. Is this true? If it is, then we have tried to create a new account for me,using our email, but itunes keeps telling me that we already have an account that uses this email address. Looking for some advice. Are we on the right track?
>
> Finally, I really enjoy reading the questions and help offered throughout the year!
>
> Regards
>
> Lucinda
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From matt at skoss.org  Sun Dec 18 17:20:09 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:50:09 +0930
Subject: [Maced] GadgetTrak...can't seem to get it show location on an iPad
	when tracking is enabled.
Message-ID: <492E01A8-5697-4685-AED7-F39323B54444@skoss.org>

It used to work fine, but doesn't seem to show up on a map now.

Are there are other remote tracking apps out there, in addition to Find my iPhone?

Regards, Matt.

From glenryan at me.com  Sun Dec 18 19:22:18 2011
From: glenryan at me.com (Glen Ryan)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:22:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
In-Reply-To: <F9E59F20-922D-477E-BD4A-654998A07E58@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <CB13ED5A.1976%glenryan@me.com>

Hi
The best way is to create a new user on the mac and log in as yourself,
then you create your own identity. Now all contacts etc are only yours.

Cheers
Glen

On 18/12/11 10:35 AM, "Craig Timms" <craigluce at bigpond.com> wrote:

>Good morning
>
>My husband has an itunes account on our mac and syncs his iphone, ipod
>etc to it. I have an iphone as well but I think we need to set up another
>itunes account so I can manage my phone etc, without all our contacts and
>data merging together. Is this true? If it is, then we have tried to
>create a new account for me,using our email, but itunes keeps telling me
>that we already have an account that uses this email address. Looking for
>some advice. Are we on the right track?
>
>Finally, I really enjoy reading the questions and help offered throughout
>the year!
>
>Regards
>
>Lucinda
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From matt at skoss.org  Mon Dec 19 11:11:11 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:41:11 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Copyright on eBooks
Message-ID: <E98BCB2B-AF8E-41CD-B8A6-8412207989C8@skoss.org>

A colleague is exploring of digital PDFs of novels for student use, rather than buying paperback versions. Students could view on their own iPads (a few have their own), iPod Touches / iPhones (most students would have one) or their Mac Book (DER funded).

What is the best way of managing this? I presume we'd need a paper trail show we bought 25 copies of a book. Is it OK to then remotely wipe the PDF of the book off a MacBook, without knowing what else has happened to the digital file? Some kids bring their own device, so we don't have the ability to remotely do anything.

We would need a way of 'consuming' the text, other than on an iOS device...ie. also on a computer. Books in iTunes seem to only be usable on an iOS device. Other eBook sellers seem to have a proprietary app to allow consumption.

 Eg  Trash by Andy Mulligan
Available as an ebook $8.99
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/204471/trash-by-andy-mulligan

At the moment we buy a class set of novels, then lose 4 or 5, have 3 damaged, and then they sit unused in the back of the library. 
Looking to build a digital library.

Interested in your collective wisdom!

Regards, Matt.

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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Mon Dec 19 14:07:12 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:07:12 +1100
Subject: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
In-Reply-To: <CB13ED5A.1976%glenryan@me.com>
References: <CB13ED5A.1976%glenryan@me.com>
Message-ID: <3B082326-5FF4-4A63-B20D-4E4802B3C772@mac.com>

Question I have is how does the second person have access to apps that have been purchased by the first person? It's ok to sync to more than one device for home use, so how do you manage this with two Apple IDs wanting to sync the same apps?

Mike



On 18/12/2011, at 7:22 PM, Glen Ryan <glenryan at me.com> wrote:

> Hi
> The best way is to create a new user on the mac and log in as yourself,
> then you create your own identity. Now all contacts etc are only yours.
> 
> Cheers
> Glen
> 
> On 18/12/11 10:35 AM, "Craig Timms" <craigluce at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> Good morning
>> 
>> My husband has an itunes account on our mac and syncs his iphone, ipod
>> etc to it. I have an iphone as well but I think we need to set up another
>> itunes account so I can manage my phone etc, without all our contacts and
>> data merging together. Is this true? If it is, then we have tried to
>> create a new account for me,using our email, but itunes keeps telling me
>> that we already have an account that uses this email address. Looking for
>> some advice. Are we on the right track?
>> 
>> Finally, I really enjoy reading the questions and help offered throughout
>> the year!
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Lucinda
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> 
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From adamvr at tpg.com.au  Mon Dec 19 19:25:47 2011
From: adamvr at tpg.com.au (Adam van Raad)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:25:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
In-Reply-To: <3B082326-5FF4-4A63-B20D-4E4802B3C772@mac.com>
References: <CB13ED5A.1976%glenryan@me.com>
	<3B082326-5FF4-4A63-B20D-4E4802B3C772@mac.com>
Message-ID: <65774661-47C6-4408-B9C6-FC07276865EB@tpg.com.au>

Great Question Mike and Lucinda,

Hope someone has some ideas as I am having the same issues. In a house with 4 macs, 4 iPhones, an iPod touch, an iPad and an Apple TV... it's all getting a little confusing when it comes to Apple ID's. One thing that I find annoying is Apps on my iPhone that my daughter has downloaded with her ID, when updating Apps it stops and wants her password.

Thanks
Adam


On 19/12/2011, at 2:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:

> Question I have is how does the second person have access to apps that have been purchased by the first person? It's ok to sync to more than one device for home use, so how do you manage this with two Apple IDs wanting to sync the same apps?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/12/2011, at 7:22 PM, Glen Ryan <glenryan at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> The best way is to create a new user on the mac and log in as yourself,
>> then you create your own identity. Now all contacts etc are only yours.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Glen
>> 
>> On 18/12/11 10:35 AM, "Craig Timms" <craigluce at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good morning
>>> 
>>> My husband has an itunes account on our mac and syncs his iphone, ipod
>>> etc to it. I have an iphone as well but I think we need to set up another
>>> itunes account so I can manage my phone etc, without all our contacts and
>>> data merging together. Is this true? If it is, then we have tried to
>>> create a new account for me,using our email, but itunes keeps telling me
>>> that we already have an account that uses this email address. Looking for
>>> some advice. Are we on the right track?
>>> 
>>> Finally, I really enjoy reading the questions and help offered throughout
>>> the year!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Lucinda
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 



From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Mon Dec 19 20:33:10 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:33:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
In-Reply-To: <65774661-47C6-4408-B9C6-FC07276865EB@tpg.com.au>
References: <CB13ED5A.1976%glenryan@me.com>
	<3B082326-5FF4-4A63-B20D-4E4802B3C772@mac.com>
	<65774661-47C6-4408-B9C6-FC07276865EB@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <1324287190.32172.YahooMailNeo@web112618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hold down the option key when starting iTunes to select, or create new iTunes Libraries.

HTH

Dave


________________________________
 From: Adam van Raad <adamvr at tpg.com.au>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au 
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] setting up an additional itunes account
 
Great Question Mike and Lucinda,

Hope someone has some ideas as I am having the same issues. In a house with 4 macs, 4 iPhones, an iPod touch, an iPad and an Apple TV... it's all getting a little confusing when it comes to Apple ID's. One thing that I find annoying is Apps on my iPhone that my daughter has downloaded with her ID, when updating Apps it stops and wants her password.

Thanks
Adam


On 19/12/2011, at 2:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:

> Question I have is how does the second person have access to apps that have been purchased by the first person? It's ok to sync to more than one device for home use, so how do you manage this with two Apple IDs wanting to sync the same apps?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/12/2011, at 7:22 PM, Glen Ryan <glenryan at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> The best way is to create a new user on the mac and log in as yourself,
>> then you create your own identity. Now all contacts etc are only yours.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Glen
>> 
>> On 18/12/11 10:35 AM, "Craig Timms" <craigluce at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good morning
>>> 
>>> My husband has an itunes account on our mac and syncs his iphone, ipod
>>> etc to it. I have an iphone as well but I think we need to set up another
>>> itunes account so I can manage my phone etc, without all our contacts and
>>> data merging together. Is this true? If it is, then we have tried to
>>> create a new account for me,using our email, but itunes keeps telling me
>>> that we already have an account that uses this email address. Looking for
>>> some advice. Are we on the right track?
>>> 
>>> Finally, I really enjoy reading the questions and help offered throughout
>>> the year!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Lucinda
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 


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From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 21:31:57 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:31:57 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
Message-ID: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Couldn't resist resting these retro Apple goodies today.  The tip, no way!

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Sent from my iPad

From rhysted at mac.com  Mon Dec 19 21:51:22 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:51:22 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
In-Reply-To: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
References: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92E5C1F9-3C96-4E44-9C11-2BA86142BD28@mac.com>

Jenny, 

Love the iBook. I'm sure it is really fast, and the incredible screen resolution, memory and HDD space ?? wow!

Regards

Rod

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School
Ph: 613 5962 4053

Sent from Rod's iPad 2

On 19/12/2011, at 9:31 PM, Ashby Jenny <ashbyjj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Couldn't resist resting these retro Apple goodies today.  The tip, no way!
> 
> <photo.JPG>
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Tue Dec 20 11:22:24 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:22:24 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
In-Reply-To: <92E5C1F9-3C96-4E44-9C11-2BA86142BD28@mac.com>
References: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
	<92E5C1F9-3C96-4E44-9C11-2BA86142BD28@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C99D03DA-39DC-4614-B685-F74648A588AB@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>

Check out these oldies.

Newton eMate 300 with original box:
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Also have a couple iMacs, eMacs, G4's, a G3 and ZIP drive... We are going to set up our own little Mac Evolution Museum...
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 19/12/2011, at 9:51 PM, Rod Hysted wrote:

> Jenny, 
> 
> Love the iBook. I'm sure it is really fast, and the incredible screen resolution, memory and HDD space ?? wow!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rod
> 
> Rod Hysted
> Assistant Principal
> Healesville Primary School
> Ph: 613 5962 4053
> 
> Sent from Rod's iPad 2
> 
> On 19/12/2011, at 9:31 PM, Ashby Jenny <ashbyjj at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Couldn't resist resting these retro Apple goodies today.  The tip, no way!
>> 
>> <photo.JPG>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From matt at skoss.org  Tue Dec 20 12:23:35 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:53:35 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
In-Reply-To: <C99D03DA-39DC-4614-B685-F74648A588AB@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>
References: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
	<92E5C1F9-3C96-4E44-9C11-2BA86142BD28@mac.com>
	<C99D03DA-39DC-4614-B685-F74648A588AB@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <4F16835A-D3CE-4480-B6D3-18AD2CFD7667@skoss.org>

I'll have to dust off my Newton handheld and Mac SE30s! Years ago (like 20), I stashed an Apple IIe destined for the tip behind the header water tank at my old school. Now that I'm returning there next year, I'll have to see if anyone has discovered it.

As an aside, I can remember a wonderful shortcut in AppleWorks on my Apple IIc, where I could use Cmd-Number from 1-9 to go 10%, 20%, etc through my document (approximated). It was instant. Admittedly there were no graphics embedded, but it was lightening fast...would love to see this feature re-installed.

Regards, Matt.


On 20/12/2011, at 9:52 AM, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Check out these oldies.
> 
> Newton eMate 300 with original box:
> <photo copy 2.JPG><ATT00001..txt><photo copy.JPG><ATT00002..txt><photo.JPG><ATT00003..txt><ATT00004..txt>



From hmkachline at acsalaska.net  Tue Dec 20 12:31:12 2011
From: hmkachline at acsalaska.net (Harry Kachline)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:31:12 -0900
Subject: [Maced] Retro Macs
In-Reply-To: <mailman.52.1324340987.180.maced@zeus.as.edu.au>
References: <mailman.52.1324340987.180.maced@zeus.as.edu.au>
Message-ID: <026C61B6-3094-4287-A4FD-8AF7FE1DF2DF@acsalaska.net>

Thanks to you all for the photos. Somewhere here is a Newton, a Mac Plus and a Quadra 840 AV. Not to mention the old graphics apparatus that was given away some time ago - no photo, but think part way between Newton, eMac and Caves of Lascaux.

On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:29 PM, maced-request at zeus.as.edu.au wrote:

Harry

?Though my soul may set in darkness, It will rise in perfect light, I have loved the stars too fondly To be fearful of the night? - Sarah Williams



From adamvr at tpg.com.au  Tue Dec 20 14:07:34 2011
From: adamvr at tpg.com.au (Adam van Raad)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:07:34 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
In-Reply-To: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
References: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B0D6152-39DB-43E4-B580-12292FEF4EB9@tpg.com.au>

very cool that you used an iPad to take (and email) the photo...  I wonder what the next generation of Apple products will be? I sold my original Newton years ago and was always amazed at what a clever device it was, just like I do with my iPad now.

Adam


On 19/12/2011, at 9:31 PM, Ashby Jenny wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Couldn't resist resting these retro Apple goodies today.  The tip, no way!
> 
> <photo.JPG>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Tue Dec 20 15:13:32 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:13:32 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Virus software?!?
Message-ID: <A56F5A6B-1E25-42EB-9807-5C9C6BAB335E@helena.wa.edu.au>

Hi all,

my new school insists I can only use their network if I install virus software which has proxy settings.

I must admit that I am very reluctant to install virus software on my Mac due to the problems they create rather then solve, as well as the fact that the OSX has ample built in security that 3rd party vendors can't match but that is ignored by the company.

Do any other schools insist on this?

What is used? (Free?)

                    Regards,
                      Eugene
                  

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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Tue Dec 20 15:49:22 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:49:22 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Virus software?!?
In-Reply-To: <A56F5A6B-1E25-42EB-9807-5C9C6BAB335E@helena.wa.edu.au>
References: <A56F5A6B-1E25-42EB-9807-5C9C6BAB335E@helena.wa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <35619989-CF8D-4B3B-A869-81F4FD2BE06C@mac.com>

Sophos home edition, Intego (?) anti virus - both free, frequently updated virus definitions - used both, they don't interfere with OS as far as I can tell, one picked up a web page with embedded malware.
No problems experienced. 
Mike

On 20/12/2011, at 3:13 PM, Eugene <edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> my new school insists I can only use their network if I install virus software which has proxy settings.
> 
> I must admit that I am very reluctant to install virus software on my Mac due to the problems they create rather then solve, as well as the fact that the OSX has ample built in security that 3rd party vendors can't match but that is ignored by the company.
> 
> Do any other schools insist on this?
> 
> What is used? (Free?)
> 
>                     Regards,
>                       Eugene
>                   <(null) 4.tiff>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
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From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au  Tue Dec 20 16:04:58 2011
From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:34:58 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Virus software?!?
In-Reply-To: <A56F5A6B-1E25-42EB-9807-5C9C6BAB335E@helena.wa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CB165AA6.9273%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Hi Eugene, these are free, but they may not be proxy aware.
ClamxAV,
iAntiVirus
I don't insist people have an operational virus checker. Never had to resort
to one in the 17 years I've been doing this job, apart from an MS Word virus
once.
If a virus threat emerges, we'll deal with it at the time.
Regards,
David

From:  Eugene <edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au>
Reply-To:  MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Date:  Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:13:32 +0800
To:  MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Subject:  [Maced] Virus software?!?

Hi all,

my new school insists I can only use their network if I install virus
software which has proxy settings.

I must admit that I am very reluctant to install virus software on my Mac
due to the problems they create rather then solve, as well as the fact that
the OSX has ample built in security that 3rd party vendors can't match but
that is ignored by the company.

Do any other schools insist on this?

What is used? (Free?)

                    Regards,
                      Eugene
                  

_______________________________________________ Maced mailing list
Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From daveburke82 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 17:08:27 2011
From: daveburke82 at gmail.com (David Burke)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:08:27 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
In-Reply-To: <9B0D6152-39DB-43E4-B580-12292FEF4EB9@tpg.com.au>
References: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
	<9B0D6152-39DB-43E4-B580-12292FEF4EB9@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <D50A5BEA-DBEA-4717-BEF6-29AA73C8EB69@gmail.com>

If Steve Jobs were alive to read that email he'd scold you for mentioning "a piece of junk" in the same sentence as the iPad.

;)

He hated that it had a stylus, saying we already have 10 styluses on our hands, no need for another.

After reading his biography, I love the way he'd say something was either the greatest thing ever or a piece of s***. I can relate to that line of thinking.

(holidays!!! Yesss!!!)


Dave Burke
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/12/2011, at 2:07 PM, Adam van Raad <adamvr at tpg.com.au> wrote:

> very cool that you used an iPad to take (and email) the photo...  I wonder what the next generation of Apple products will be? I sold my original Newton years ago and was always amazed at what a clever device it was, just like I do with my iPad now.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On 19/12/2011, at 9:31 PM, Ashby Jenny wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Couldn't resist resting these retro Apple goodies today.  The tip, no way!
>> 
>> <photo.JPG>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 18:49:52 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:49:52 +1100
Subject: [Maced] New fixes old
Message-ID: <0F15CA18-0607-4ADD-82AC-3C7CB8008EFF@gmail.com>


Hi everyone,

Still cleaning up and gave away 12emacs today to very happy families. Def was Christmas for them.  Had to use my iPad to fix the Bondi Blue iMac that my techspert Grade 6er was planning to take home.  Remembering old system 9 stuff was a real memory jogger.

Suddenly it rebooted in OS9 and not in OS X, so we googled on the ipad and there on the Apple site were the instructions to change the startup disk.  Apple magic 12years on.

How's the clean up going everyone?
My lab is now in many classrooms shared around the school. It's lovely.

Next the job of updating 40 iPads and 30 iPods. Hmmm. Looks like I get to stay at school and miss the movies excursion tomorrow.

cheers from Jenny

PS. I mostly tweet @jjash but know you guys are the real Mac lovers and would apreciate some old stuff.
Sent from my iPad

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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Tue Dec 20 22:22:57 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:22:57 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Mac display
In-Reply-To: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
References: <3E0831EA-AEA8-435D-AC20-2CB507726319@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ACD310C2-1285-438A-BE86-E95B76B52B5A@bigpond.com>

Loved them both when we got the first staff iBook at school.
Jock
On 19/12/2011, at 9:31 PM, Ashby Jenny wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Couldn't resist resting these retro Apple goodies today.  The tip, no way!
> 
> <photo.JPG>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad_______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 06:11:14 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:11:14 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Retro Macs
In-Reply-To: <026C61B6-3094-4287-A4FD-8AF7FE1DF2DF@acsalaska.net>
References: <mailman.52.1324340987.180.maced@zeus.as.edu.au>
	<026C61B6-3094-4287-A4FD-8AF7FE1DF2DF@acsalaska.net>
Message-ID: <FE23288B-8977-44B7-88F1-B2C395A53CC4@gmail.com>

Hi Harry,

No worries. Hope you enjoy the festive season,

Cheers from Jenny

Sent from my iPad

On 20/12/2011, at 12:31 PM, Harry Kachline <hmkachline at acsalaska.net> wrote:

> Thanks to you all for the photos. Somewhere here is a Newton, a Mac Plus and a Quadra 840 AV. Not to mention the old graphics apparatus that was given away some time ago - no photo, but think part way between Newton, eMac and Caves of Lascaux.
> 
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:29 PM, maced-request at zeus.as.edu.au wrote:
> 
> Harry
> 
> ?Though my soul may set in darkness, It will rise in perfect light, I have loved the stars too fondly To be fearful of the night? - Sarah Williams
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From adamvr at tpg.com.au  Wed Dec 21 16:05:47 2011
From: adamvr at tpg.com.au (Adam van Raad)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:05:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
Message-ID: <9A49FCB4-365E-4D2B-A3ED-CD7F2997073F@tpg.com.au>

Hi everyone,

Is anyone doing digital video streaming/content storage/analogue conversion/DTV and Foxtel recording etc etc.
We are looking at a DVC Server from WC Audio Visual but I was wondering what other systems might be out there.
Thanks
Adam




Adam van Raad
IT Support
St Matthews Catholic School Mudgee
a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au
www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au

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From lelongw at fahan.tas.edu.au  Wed Dec 21 16:14:07 2011
From: lelongw at fahan.tas.edu.au (William Lelong)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:14:07 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
In-Reply-To: <9A49FCB4-365E-4D2B-A3ED-CD7F2997073F@tpg.com.au>
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Hi,


At Fahan we use Clickview which does a lot of what you mentioned and also comes with a lot of Australian Video Content as part of the annual subscription. They also have a number of hardware options for recording television such as the Clickview 24/7 which records 6 channels simultaenlously and keeps the most recent 14 days so that content can be copied after the program has aired.


We are a 100% mac client based school, but the server side software does require windows the macs then use the mac click view client software to access the content.


There is lots of info on their website www.clickview.com.au


Will


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From: Adam van Raad [mailto:adamvr at tpg.com.au]
To: Macs in Education [mailto:maced at zeus.as.edu.au]
Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:05:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems

Hi everyone,


Is anyone doing digital video streaming/content storage/analogue conversion/DTV and Foxtel recording etc etc.
We are looking at a DVC Server from WC Audio Visual but I was wondering what other systems might be out there.
Thanks
Adam



  






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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Dec 21 17:17:40 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:17:40 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
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We're fans of Clickview & 24/7 as well

Greg


On 21/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, William Lelong wrote:

Hi,

At Fahan we use Clickview which does a lot of what you mentioned and also comes with a lot of Australian Video Content as part of the annual subscription. They also have a number of hardware options for recording television such as the Clickview 24/7 which records 6 channels simultaenlously and keeps the most recent 14 days so that content can be copied after the program has aired.

We are a 100% mac client based school, but the server side software does require windows the macs then use the mac click view client software to access the content.

There is lots of info on their website www.clickview.com.au<http://www.clickview.com.au>

Will


________________________________
From: Adam van Raad [mailto:adamvr at tpg.com.au]
To: Macs in Education [mailto:maced at zeus.as.edu.au]
Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:05:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems

Hi everyone,

Is anyone doing digital video streaming/content storage/analogue conversion/DTV and Foxtel recording etc etc.
We are looking at a DVC Server from WC Audio Visual but I was wondering what other systems might be out there.
Thanks
Adam




Adam van Raad
IT Support
St Matthews Catholic School Mudgee
a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au<mailto:a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au>
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From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Wed Dec 21 17:35:22 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:35:22 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Virus software?!?
In-Reply-To: <CB165AA6.9273%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>
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Message-ID: <9D7BB5E2-0981-4E24-83D7-FDD121276E0D@helena.wa.edu.au>

Thanks for the replies everyone.

I was able to get McAfee via the head office for free on my Mac. It isn't very good but it is free and work thinks it acceptable enough for the Mac going onto the network.

                      Regards,
                      Eugene
                  

On 20/12/2011, at 1:04 PM, David Jones wrote:

> Hi Eugene, these are free, but they may not be proxy aware.
> ClamxAV,
> iAntiVirus
> I don't insist people have an operational virus checker. Never had to resort to one in the 17 years I've been doing this job, apart from an MS Word virus once.
> If a virus threat emerges, we'll deal with it at the time.
> Regards,
> David
> 
> From: Eugene <edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au>
> Reply-To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:13:32 +0800
> To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Subject: [Maced] Virus software?!?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> my new school insists I can only use their network if I install virus software which has proxy settings.
> 
> I must admit that I am very reluctant to install virus software on my Mac due to the problems they create rather then solve, as well as the fact that the OSX has ample built in security that 3rd party vendors can't match but that is ignored by the company.
> 
> Do any other schools insist on this?
> 
> What is used? (Free?)
> 
>                     Regards,
>                       Eugene
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From kshel27 at eq.edu.au  Wed Dec 21 21:05:36 2011
From: kshel27 at eq.edu.au (Keiran SHELDEN)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:05:36 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
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Hi All.

+1 for Clickview, have used it at a couple of my schools and are using it now, we have clickview, Clickview Liove and Clickview 24/7 running.?? Click view Live runs straight through your web browser.??? The content is sent out each term, and with 24/7 you are able to record whatever Free to Air you can get.

Thanks

-- 

Regards.

Keiran Shelden

Network Administrator | Apple Server/Desktop Support

Department of Education, Training.

Kenmore State High School
60 Aberfeldy St | Kenmore | Brisbane QLD 4069

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On 21/12/11, "Norris, Greg"  <Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> We're fans of Clickview & 24/7 as well
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On 21/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, William Lelong wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> At Fahan we use Clickview which does a lot of what you mentioned and also comes with a lot of Australian Video Content as part of the annual subscription. They also have a number of hardware options for recording television such as the Clickview 24/7 which records 6 channels simultaenlously and keeps the most recent 14 days so that content can be copied after the program has aired.
> 
> We are a 100% mac client based school, but the server side software does require windows the macs then use the mac click view client software to access the content.
> 
> There is lots of info on their website www.clickview.com.au<http://www.clickview.com.au>
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Adam van Raad [mailto:adamvr at tpg.com.au] <adamvr at tpg.com.au]>
> To: Macs in Education [mailto:maced at zeus.as.edu.au] <maced at zeus.as.edu.au]>
> Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:05:47 +1100
> Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Is anyone doing digital video streaming/content storage/analogue conversion/DTV and Foxtel recording etc etc.
> We are looking at a DVC Server from WC Audio Visual but I was wondering what other systems might be out there.
> Thanks
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Adam van Raad
> IT Support
> St Matthews Catholic School Mudgee
> a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au<mailto:a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au <a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au>>
> www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au<http://www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au>
> 
> 
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From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Dec 21 22:05:51 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:05:51 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
In-Reply-To: <74a0cd413f30b.4ef23c10@eq.edu.au>
References: <20111221051407.ddb4d802@mail.fahan.tas.edu.au>
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	<74a0cd413f30b.4ef23c10@eq.edu.au>
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Hi all

We currently have clickview - 

Just had a look at V Library in the last week of school. It offers all of what clickview does for half the price. 

Our techs are investigating this further.

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
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On 21/12/2011, at 8:05 PM, Keiran SHELDEN <kshel27 at eq.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi All.
> 
> +1 for Clickview, have used it at a couple of my schools and are using it now, we have clickview, Clickview Liove and Clickview 24/7 running.   Click view Live runs straight through your web browser.    The content is sent out each term, and with 24/7 you are able to record whatever Free to Air you can get.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
> Regards.
> Keiran Shelden
> Network Administrator | Apple Server/Desktop Support
> Department of Education, Training.
> Kenmore State High School
> 60 Aberfeldy St | Kenmore | Brisbane QLD 4069
> T 073327 1563| M0412 410 817 | Ekshel27 at eq.edu.au
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
> 
> 
> On 21/12/11, "Norris, Greg" <Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>> We're fans of Clickview & 24/7 as well
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> On 21/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, William Lelong wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> At Fahan we use Clickview which does a lot of what you mentioned and also comes with a lot of Australian Video Content as part of the annual subscription. They also have a number of hardware options for recording television such as the Clickview 24/7 which records 6 channels simultaenlously and keeps the most recent 14 days so that content can be copied after the program has aired.
>> 
>> We are a 100% mac client based school, but the server side software does require windows the macs then use the mac click view client software to access the content.
>> 
>> There is lots of info on their website www.clickview.com.au<http://www.clickview.com.au>
>> 
>> Will
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Adam van Raad [mailto:adamvr at tpg.com.au] <adamvr at tpg.com.au]>
>> To: Macs in Education [mailto:maced at zeus.as.edu.au] <maced at zeus.as.edu.au]>
>> Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:05:47 +1100
>> Subject: [Maced] Video Streaming Systems
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Is anyone doing digital video streaming/content storage/analogue conversion/DTV and Foxtel recording etc etc.
>> We are looking at a DVC Server from WC Audio Visual but I was wondering what other systems might be out there.
>> Thanks
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam van Raad
>> IT Support
>> St Matthews Catholic School Mudgee
>> a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au<mailto:a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au <a.vanraad at bth.catholic.edu.au>>
>> www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au<http://www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [http://xs02.fahan.tas.edu.au/logo_email.gif]   p: +61 3 6225 1064 | f: +61 3 6225 1263 |   W:   www.fahan.tas.edu.au<http://www.fahan.tas.edu.au/>
>> Fisher Avenue, Sandy Bay, TAS 7005 Hobart Australia
>> 
>> Small School, Big Future
>> CRICOS 00476G
>> 
>> [http://www.fahan.tas.edu.au/images/fahan/quicklinks/fb.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fahan-School-Hobart-Australia/145803778803207>   [http://www.fahan.tas.edu.au/images/fahan/quicklinks/twitter.png] <http://twitter.com/FahanSchoolTas>
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From rad_zone at me.com  Thu Dec 22 09:16:15 2011
From: rad_zone at me.com (Jude)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:16:15 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Digital Portfolios
Message-ID: <4B32A807-5F20-47BC-95B3-70275D66D03C@me.com>

Season's Greetings to all,

I know this has been mentioned before but could anyone recommend a Digital Portfolio application or online service suitable for both Macs & PCs?

Thanks in advance!

Jude Radin



From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Thu Dec 22 10:53:00 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:53:00 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Digital Portfolios
In-Reply-To: <4B32A807-5F20-47BC-95B3-70275D66D03C@me.com>
Message-ID: <CB18AE7C.604B%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

Hi Jude et al

I like Edublogs: http://edublogs.org/

Cheers
Chris XYZ

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Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
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www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au
Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au
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On 22/12/11 8:16 AM, "Jude" <rad_zone at me.com> wrote:

> Season's Greetings to all,
> 
> I know this has been mentioned before but could anyone recommend a Digital
> Portfolio application or online service suitable for both Macs & PCs?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Jude Radin
> 
> 
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>