From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sat Jul 2 21:02:01 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 21:02:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software Message-ID: <88AD00DC-7BBA-40E0-9659-A4DB8FA1D863@gmail.com> Hi everyone Does anyone know the name of that software that allows syncing of multiple ipods. Im sure it was Mac1 in Melb who were having the PD day. Unfortunately I couldnt attend. Cheers from Jenny Ashby Leading Teacher ICT Specialist and Administrator ICT Peer Coach Epsom Primary School Victoria Australia ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 Slide2learn founding and team member twitter jjash fring jjash skype jenashby My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From WENDY.DAWSON at det.nsw.edu.au Sat Jul 2 22:36:11 2011 From: WENDY.DAWSON at det.nsw.edu.au (Dawson, Wendy) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:36:11 +1000 Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software In-Reply-To: <88AD00DC-7BBA-40E0-9659-A4DB8FA1D863@gmail.com> References: <88AD00DC-7BBA-40E0-9659-A4DB8FA1D863@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8F4CB90FA3819946A3241AEB04E2A0641FD3E1A23F@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> Hi Jenny Do you mean Absolute Manage - Mobile Device Management (MDM). https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/344781376 Wendy Dawson TL CC Mount Terry PS www.mtterry.nsw.edu.au www.det.nsw.edu.au/blog/764675-terrytales/ www.isla.org.au/ ________________________________________ From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ashby Jenny [ashbyjj at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 9:02 PM To: Macs Education in Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software Hi everyone Does anyone know the name of that software that allows syncing of multiple ipods. Im sure it was Mac1 in Melb who were having the PD day. Unfortunately I couldnt attend. Cheers from Jenny Ashby Leading Teacher ICT Specialist and Administrator ICT Peer Coach Epsom Primary School Victoria Australia ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 Slide2learn founding and team member twitter jjash fring jjash skype jenashby My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. 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URL: From tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au Sun Jul 3 09:47:57 2011 From: tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au (Tony Roberts) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:47:57 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App Message-ID: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> Hello Fellow Apples Does anybody know of a : "GST Calculator" App for home office use I did have a Filemaker GST calculator many moons back that worked well, but did not progress with the times Thanks Tony. . From garry at gstokes.org Sun Jul 3 09:58:57 2011 From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:58:57 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> Message-ID: what do you want it to do? what inputs, what outputs? On 3 July 2011 09:47, Tony Roberts wrote: > Hello Fellow Apples > > Does anybody know of a : > > "GST Calculator" ?App for home office use > > I did have a Filemaker ?GST calculator many moons back that worked well, but > did not progress with the times > > Thanks > > Tony. > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au Sun Jul 3 10:00:05 2011 From: williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au (Williams, Carl C) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 00:00:05 +0000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> Message-ID: <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> Hi have one called 'Simple GST' that I can't locate online any more, so I've uploaded it here for you: http://cl.ly/1A3H1z0S250j35381Q3d Carl Williams Music Teacher & Instrumental Music Administration East Doncaster Secondary College 20 George Street East Doncaster Victoria 3109 Australia p: +61 3 9842 2244 f: +61 3 9841 8010 w: www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au e: williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au On 03/07/2011, at 9:47 AM, Tony Roberts wrote: > Hello Fellow Apples > > Does anybody know of a : > > "GST Calculator" App for home office use > > I did have a Filemaker GST calculator many moons back that worked well, but did not progress with the times > > Thanks > > Tony. > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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From garry at gstokes.org Sun Jul 3 10:03:41 2011 From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:03:41 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> Message-ID: what about http://www.gstcalculator.com.au/ On 3 July 2011 10:00, Williams, Carl C wrote: > Hi have one called 'Simple GST' that I can't locate online any more, so I've uploaded it here for you: > > http://cl.ly/1A3H1z0S250j35381Q3d > > > > Carl Williams > Music Teacher & Instrumental Music Administration > > > East Doncaster Secondary College > 20 George Street ? East Doncaster ?Victoria ? 3109 ? Australia > p: ?+61 3 9842 2244 ? ?f: ? +61 3 9841 8010 > w: ? www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au > e: ? ?williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au > > > > > On 03/07/2011, at 9:47 AM, Tony Roberts wrote: > >> Hello Fellow Apples >> >> Does anybody know of a : >> >> "GST Calculator" ?App for home office use >> >> I did have a Filemaker ?GST calculator many moons back that worked well, but did not progress with the times >> >> Thanks >> >> Tony. >> . >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. 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Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development. > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From martin at levins.net Sun Jul 3 10:47:24 2011 From: martin at levins.net (martin) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 20:47:24 -0400 Subject: [Maced] Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <22F1C1CC-7137-43DF-BCDA-2C48CC07C642@netspeed.com.au> References: <88AD00DC-7BBA-40E0-9659-A4DB8FA1D863@gmail.com> <22F1C1CC-7137-43DF-BCDA-2C48CC07C642@netspeed.com.au> Message-ID: <90BB9FED-8EA1-44E3-85DE-A474AB4B222A@levins.net> Hi Tony See the links below to do this Cheers Martin On 02/07/2011, at 7:24 PM, Tony Roberts wrote: > > Please change my eMail address > > From: > > tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au > > To: > > troberts at acr.net.au > > Thank you > > Tony. > . > > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au Sun Jul 3 11:30:44 2011 From: tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au (Tony Roberts) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:30:44 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> Message-ID: <281EC56A-C2CA-4441-B7D4-4EF07DD54F0D@netspeed.com.au> Garry Calculate the GST amount and also calculate how much GST is included of any given invoice Tony. . On 03/07/2011, at 9:58 AM, garry stokes wrote: > what do you want it to do? > what inputs, what outputs? > > On 3 July 2011 09:47, Tony Roberts > wrote: >> Hello Fellow Apples >> >> Does anybody know of a : >> >> "GST Calculator" App for home office use >> >> I did have a Filemaker GST calculator many moons back that worked >> well, but >> did not progress with the times >> >> Thanks >> >> Tony. >> . >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au Sun Jul 3 11:38:10 2011 From: tonyroberts at netspeed.com.au (Tony Roberts) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:38:10 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> Message-ID: Garry Both good, thanks , a APP would be betterrrrrr Tony. . On 03/07/2011, at 10:03 AM, garry stokes wrote: > what about http://www.gstcalculator.com.au/ > > On 3 July 2011 10:00, Williams, Carl C > wrote: >> Hi have one called 'Simple GST' that I can't locate online any >> more, so I've uploaded it here for you: >> >> http://cl.ly/1A3H1z0S250j35381Q3d >> >> >> >> Carl Williams >> Music Teacher & Instrumental Music Administration >> >> >> East Doncaster Secondary College >> 20 George Street East Doncaster Victoria 3109 Australia >> p: +61 3 9842 2244 f: +61 3 9841 8010 >> w: www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au >> e: williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au >> >> >> >> >> On 03/07/2011, at 9:47 AM, Tony Roberts wrote: >> >>> Hello Fellow Apples >>> >>> Does anybody know of a : >>> >>> "GST Calculator" App for home office use >>> >>> I did have a Filemaker GST calculator many moons back that >>> worked well, but did not progress with the times >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tony. >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> >> Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If >> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before >> opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. >> Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by >> the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or >> indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is >> limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any >> representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual >> sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education >> and Early Childhood Development. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 12:55:01 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:55:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> Message-ID: <05CF3778-63CA-43FC-B136-8E1BBFCCAF03@gmail.com> Isn't GST just a standard 10% ? Sent from my iPad On 03/07/2011, at 10:00 AM, "Williams, Carl C" wrote: > Hi have one called 'Simple GST' that I can't locate online any more, so I've uploaded it here for you: > > http://cl.ly/1A3H1z0S250j35381Q3d > > > > Carl Williams > Music Teacher & Instrumental Music Administration > > > East Doncaster Secondary College > 20 George Street East Doncaster Victoria 3109 Australia > p: +61 3 9842 2244 f: +61 3 9841 8010 > w: www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au > e: williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au > > > > > On 03/07/2011, at 9:47 AM, Tony Roberts wrote: > >> Hello Fellow Apples >> >> Does anybody know of a : >> >> "GST Calculator" App for home office use >> >> I did have a Filemaker GST calculator many moons back that worked well, but did not progress with the times >> >> Thanks >> >> Tony. >> . >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development. > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sun Jul 3 13:10:49 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:10:49 +1000 Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software In-Reply-To: <8F4CB90FA3819946A3241AEB04E2A0641FD3E1A23F@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> References: <88AD00DC-7BBA-40E0-9659-A4DB8FA1D863@gmail.com> <8F4CB90FA3819946A3241AEB04E2A0641FD3E1A23F@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> Message-ID: No that doesn't ring a bell. Hmm I'll have to search my emails. I'll let you know when I find it. Found it -sorry not Mac1 but compnow Casper suite is the software. Cheers from Jenny Sent from my iPad On 02/07/2011, at 10:36 PM, "Dawson, Wendy" wrote: > Hi Jenny > > Do you mean Absolute Manage - Mobile Device Management (MDM). > > https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/344781376 > > > Wendy Dawson > TL CC > Mount Terry PS > > www.mtterry.nsw.edu.au > www.det.nsw.edu.au/blog/764675-terrytales/ > www.isla.org.au/ > ________________________________________ > From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ashby Jenny [ashbyjj at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 9:02 PM > To: Macs Education in > Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software > > Hi everyone > > Does anyone know the name of that software that allows syncing of multiple ipods. Im sure it was Mac1 in Melb who were having the PD day. Unfortunately I couldnt attend. > > Cheers from > > Jenny Ashby > Leading Teacher > ICT Specialist and Administrator > ICT Peer Coach > Epsom Primary School > Victoria > Australia > > ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 > Slide2learn founding and team member > > twitter jjash > fring jjash > skype jenashby > My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 > > http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From garry at gstokes.org Sun Jul 3 13:21:00 2011 From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:21:00 +1000 Subject: [Maced] GST App In-Reply-To: References: <847B403F-401A-4C1A-8C62-30F23A2EAF02@netspeed.com.au> <6AC0B774-F66B-4BFD-BBD0-90673EA86B99@edumail.vic.gov.au> Message-ID: if you mean an ipod/phone/pad app try googling " gst ipod app" On 3 July 2011 11:38, Tony Roberts wrote: > Garry > > Both good, thanks , a APP would be betterrrrrr > > Tony. > . > On 03/07/2011, at 10:03 AM, garry stokes wrote: > >> what about http://www.gstcalculator.com.au/ >> >> On 3 July 2011 10:00, Williams, Carl C >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi have one called 'Simple GST' that I can't locate online any more, so >>> I've uploaded it here for you: >>> >>> http://cl.ly/1A3H1z0S250j35381Q3d >>> >>> >>> >>> Carl Williams >>> Music Teacher & Instrumental Music Administration >>> >>> >>> East Doncaster Secondary College >>> 20 George Street ? East Doncaster ?Victoria ? 3109 ? Australia >>> p: ?+61 3 9842 2244 ? ?f: ? +61 3 9841 8010 >>> w: ? www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au >>> e: ? ?williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 03/07/2011, at 9:47 AM, Tony Roberts wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Fellow Apples >>>> >>>> Does anybody know of a : >>>> >>>> "GST Calculator" ?App for home office use >>>> >>>> I did have a Filemaker ?GST calculator many moons back that worked well, >>>> but did not progress with the times >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Tony. >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maced mailing list >>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >>> >>> Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If >>> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening >>> or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any >>> loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender >>> or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files >>> our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any >>> representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, >>> and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood >>> Development. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From brett.jacob at compnow.com.au Sun Jul 3 13:43:42 2011 From: brett.jacob at compnow.com.au (Brett Jacob) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:43:42 +1000 Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Jenny, I know that Andrew from our Melb office has been in touch with you regarding Casper, I look after all the installations and technical issues regarding Casper in Australia and Asia Pacific. Please let me know if you have any questions and I would be happy to help. Regards _______________________________ Brett Jacob brett.jacob at compnow.com.au Computers Now 222 Pacific Hwy Crows Nest NSW 2065 t: 02 99517906 f: 02 99574325 m: 0421346611 On 3/07/11 1:10 PM, "Ashby Jenny" wrote: > No that doesn't ring a bell. Hmm I'll have to search my emails. I'll let you > know when I find it. Found it -sorry not Mac1 but compnow Casper suite is the > software. > > Cheers from Jenny > > Sent from my iPad > > On 02/07/2011, at 10:36 PM, "Dawson, Wendy" > wrote: > >> Hi Jenny >> >> Do you mean Absolute Manage - Mobile Device Management (MDM). >> >> https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/344781376 >> >> >> Wendy Dawson >> TL CC >> Mount Terry PS >> >> www.mtterry.nsw.edu.au >> www.det.nsw.edu.au/blog/764675-terrytales/ >> www.isla.org.au/ >> ________________________________________ >> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf >> Of Ashby Jenny [ashbyjj at gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 9:02 PM >> To: Macs Education in >> Subject: [Maced] ipod syncing with software >> >> Hi everyone >> >> Does anyone know the name of that software that allows syncing of multiple >> ipods. Im sure it was Mac1 in Melb who were having the PD day. Unfortunately >> I couldnt attend. >> >> Cheers from >> >> Jenny Ashby >> Leading Teacher >> ICT Specialist and Administrator >> ICT Peer Coach >> Epsom Primary School >> Victoria >> Australia >> >> ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 >> Slide2learn founding and team member >> >> twitter jjash >> fring jjash >> skype jenashby >> My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 >> >> http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > Scanned by the Computers Now Firewall > > > Scanned by the Computers Now Firewall From kel at edugator.net.au Mon Jul 4 12:21:57 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:21:57 +1000 Subject: [Maced] MacBook Pro - buying advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110704122157.15932khhouaq91us@webmail.netregistry.net> Whetever you want to buy, wait until Apple incorporates Sandy Bridge on it - rumours are this will be soon. Kel Quoting Greg Stewart : > Also have a look at the refurbished store. If they are updating > there could be deals in there. Don't forget the education store as > well. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 29/06/2011, at 8:54 PM, "Wales, Geoffrey" > wrote: > >> I would like some advice on ways to get a discount on a MacBook Pro. >> >> Can I buy for myself through my school at the DET price? Can I get >> a teacher discount from an Apple reseller, or should I buy from >> Apple online? >> >> Is it better to get an SSD model, or buy and add later? >> >> The MacBooks are due for an update - should I wait and see what >> they're like? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Geoff Wales >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From mlevins at as.edu.au Wed Jul 6 12:10:45 2011 From: mlevins at as.edu.au (martin levins) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:10:45 -0400 Subject: [Maced] National Geo, UNESCO, STEM ed, and NASA, now all on iTunes Message-ID: <600B4FBD-98A8-4F06-8DDD-92B43E713C78@as.edu.au> Wow Cheers Martin Sent from my air conditioner From mrmascorella at me.com Thu Jul 7 14:10:55 2011 From: mrmascorella at me.com (Mr. Mascorella) Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:10:55 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Project about weather! Message-ID: Hello everyone! My daughter Lucia (5 years old) and I are doing a project about weather and the clouds! We are answering the essential question "Why are clouds so big, dark, and grey?". We want to teach the other young people in Lucia's class about clouds! We have made clouds and fog at home, started a blog (as a teaching resource), and videoed Lucia's thoughts and experiments. We are also writing our experiments up like scientists! We want to know what the weather is like in your part of the world. Specifically, we want to see clouds, the colour they are, and know if it is raining! So, please take a photo of your weather, take an image from Google Maps of where you live (not your address, just the City is fine), and describe your weather to us in an email! Our address is mascorella at me.com We are going to include this detail on our website, and we will talk about it on our poster we are making to teach the people in Lucia's class about clouds. Thank you for participating in our project! As we get our website finished, we will send you a link to it where you can watch the videos of what we have learnt, and our experiments! Cheers, Jonathon and Lucia Mascorella ADE 2009 From rwhitely at internode.on.net Thu Jul 7 21:43:29 2011 From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:43:29 +0800 Subject: [Maced] ACPI Non-Compliant installing Win 7 over XP2 in VMWare Fusion on my MacBook Pro Message-ID: <35ABE82C-E383-4E4D-90DD-E587FAB9B9EC@internode.on.net> Dear MacEdders I have just tried to install a legitimate Dept of Education Data#3 Upgrade of Win 7 Ultimate over my existing DOE XP2 version, running in VMWare Fusion v3.1.3, on my Macbook Pro 2.2, i7, 750GB HDD, 8Gb RAM. I believe I have allocated enough disk space and RAM for the installation - 60GB HDD and 4GB RAM and have expanded XP2 to accommodate this change using Easeus Partition Master. When trying to install Win 7, I get this message: "This computer is not compliant with the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) standard. Windows must be installed onto a computer that supports ACPI. Contact your computer manufacturer for a BIOS update or install Windows on an ACPI-compliant computer." I understand this will be a Custom install and have used Easy Transfer For Win 7 software to back up data. I'm not really worried about this data, as I am only using this as a demo to non-Mac believers. Can anyone please give advice or suggestion to overcome this problem? Many thanks Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tranby College accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Reg Whitely Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 7:43 PM To: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] ACPI Non-Compliant installing Win 7 over XP2 in VMWare Fusion on my MacBook Pro Dear MacEdders I have just tried to install a legitimate Dept of Education Data#3 Upgrade of Win 7 Ultimate over my existing DOE XP2 version, running in VMWare Fusion v3.1.3, on my Macbook Pro 2.2, i7, 750GB HDD, 8Gb RAM. I believe I have allocated enough disk space and RAM for the installation - 60GB HDD and 4GB RAM and have expanded XP2 to accommodate this change using Easeus Partition Master. When trying to install Win 7, I get this message: "This computer is not compliant with the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) standard. Windows must be installed onto a computer that supports ACPI. Contact your computer manufacturer for a BIOS update or install Windows on an ACPI-compliant computer." I understand this will be a Custom install and have used Easy Transfer For Win 7 software to back up data. I'm not really worried about this data, as I am only using this as a demo to non-Mac believers. Can anyone please give advice or suggestion to overcome this problem? Many thanks Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The actual path to the home folder is Data/Yeargroup/shortname and I have Data as the sharpoint and yeargroup as the home folder location in WGM. Do I need to share the yeargroup folder as well? I was trying to cut down on the number of sharepoints by putting them into a Data folder. Does anyone know where this is controlled, I can't remember what I did in 10.4 to get it to show the home folder. Thanks Adam Adam van Raad IT Support St Matthews Catholic School Mudgee adamvr at mac.com www.stmattsmudgee.nsw.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kanangrabeef at bigpond.com Wed Jul 20 13:03:32 2011 From: kanangrabeef at bigpond.com (NSW DET) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:03:32 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Test Message-ID: Test - please ignore. ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 21 09:24:44 2011 From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:24:44 +1000 Subject: [Maced] MacBook discontinued Message-ID: <4DB5F989-7536-446A-A041-4A2D88E261B7@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> So also announced today alongside Lion, Mac Mini, and Air is that the white MacBook is only now available for education. For those who currently have a 1:1 MacBook program, are you concerned of this? Eventually it seems that they will discontinue the White MacBook completely to replace it with the Air once they have given us some time and got the pricing model working for us, I assume. I think the Air does all we need, but are we really ready to drop optical media? Most of the time we wouldn't use it, but having it there as an option is always nice. Maybe should just buy a couple external drives for on-demand borrowing. Does anyone have an Air? Do you think it's great/good/poor for day to day student use? I'm yet to have a good play with one. _________________________ Sam Osborne IT Technician MacKillop College t : 02 6338 2200 www.mkc.nsw.edu.au From matt at skoss.org Thu Jul 21 11:09:46 2011 From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:39:46 +0930 Subject: [Maced] Nuking my hard drive, advice needed on lifting off iPhoto, Mail, iCal, Address Book data Message-ID: <87B50E42-262E-4626-AF68-64D0AA18FAC9@skoss.org> My current MacBook Pro (unibody) is starting to wear the cost of constant migration from PowerBook 5300 -> PowerBook G3 -> PowerBook G4 -> iBook G4 -> back to the PowerBook G4 after surgery -> MacBook Intel -> back to the PowerBook G4 after further surgery -> current MacBook Pro. Through all this, AppleWorks has continued to work, and still used occasionally. The time has come to blow it all away and start from scratch, and me trying to hard to exercise the discipline of doing full installations of software, rather than migrating from the previous computer. To my question.... Where does the iPhoto, Mail, iCal, Address Book data reside, so that I can lift this off, without fear of losing any valuable data. My intention then is to copy it back to the same directory level, or import from an external hard drive. I use Time Machine, but would like to have a back up plan as well. Anything else obvious that I've forgotten? Does anyone know if MYOB will work with Lion? Many thanks. Coming to the end of a 4 week holiday here in the NT...back on the hamster wheel soon! Regards, Matt. 0418-624 631 From rhysted at mac.com Thu Jul 21 11:15:12 2011 From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:15:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Nuking my hard drive, advice needed on lifting off iPhoto, Mail, iCal, Address Book data In-Reply-To: <87B50E42-262E-4626-AF68-64D0AA18FAC9@skoss.org> References: <87B50E42-262E-4626-AF68-64D0AA18FAC9@skoss.org> Message-ID: <192E8C4C-3791-4790-A8E8-19194D5968D5@mac.com> Matt, I would probably use super duper or carbon copy cloned to do a backup, then you could copy or migrate stuff over. Regards Rod Rod Hysted Assistant Principal Healesville Primary School Ph: 613 5962 4053 Sent from Rod's iPad 2 On 21/07/2011, at 11:09 AM, Matt Skoss wrote: > My current MacBook Pro (unibody) is starting to wear the cost of constant migration from PowerBook 5300 -> PowerBook G3 -> PowerBook G4 -> iBook G4 -> back to the PowerBook G4 after surgery -> MacBook Intel -> back to the PowerBook G4 after further surgery -> current MacBook Pro. > > Through all this, AppleWorks has continued to work, and still used occasionally. > > The time has come to blow it all away and start from scratch, and me trying to hard to exercise the discipline of doing full installations of software, rather than migrating from the previous computer. > > To my question.... > Where does the iPhoto, Mail, iCal, Address Book data reside, so that I can lift this off, without fear of losing any valuable data. My intention then is to copy it back to the same directory level, or import from an external hard drive. I use Time Machine, but would like to have a back up plan as well. > > Anything else obvious that I've forgotten? Does anyone know if MYOB will work with Lion? > > Many thanks. > > Coming to the end of a 4 week holiday here in the NT...back on the hamster wheel soon! > > Regards, Matt. > 0418-624 631 > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ashbyjj at gmail.com Thu Jul 21 13:43:32 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:43:32 +1000 Subject: [Maced] MacBook discontinued In-Reply-To: <4DB5F989-7536-446A-A041-4A2D88E261B7@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> References: <4DB5F989-7536-446A-A041-4A2D88E261B7@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: Funny we have an optical drive that we got when we didnt have drives in our comps. Or perhaps they are burners. Hmm will check that. Jenny Ashby Leading Teacher ICT Specialist and Administrator ICT Peer Coach Epsom Primary School Victoria Australia ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 Slide2learn founding and team member twitter jjash fring jjash skype jenashby My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au On 21/07/2011, at 9:24 AM, Sam Osborne wrote: > So also announced today alongside Lion, Mac Mini, and Air is that the white MacBook is only now available for education. > > For those who currently have a 1:1 MacBook program, are you concerned of this? Eventually it seems that they will discontinue the White MacBook completely to replace it with the Air once they have given us some time and got the pricing model working for us, I assume. > > I think the Air does all we need, but are we really ready to drop optical media? Most of the time we wouldn't use it, but having it there as an option is always nice. Maybe should just buy a couple external drives for on-demand borrowing. > > Does anyone have an Air? Do you think it's great/good/poor for day to day student use? I'm yet to have a good play with one. > _________________________ > Sam Osborne > IT Technician > MacKillop College > t : 02 6338 2200 > www.mkc.nsw.edu.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au Thu Jul 21 13:58:44 2011 From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Mike Parker) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:58:44 +1000 Subject: [Maced] MacBook discontinued In-Reply-To: References: <4DB5F989-7536-446A-A041-4A2D88E261B7@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: The Mac book air is great for it's weight, but they are a bit harder to support. You need external usb optical drives, and usb to ethernet cables for imaging. I can't imagine they are as durable as the macbooks, but I could be wrong. Given hard drive size, amount of ram, processor speed and overall usage, I think the mac book pro is going to win out for most people, but the air is much lighter which is a major issue with some students. Mike On 21/07/2011, at 1:43 PM, Ashby Jenny wrote: > Funny we have an optical drive that we got when we didnt have drives in our comps. Or perhaps they are burners. Hmm will check that. > > > Jenny Ashby > Leading Teacher > ICT Specialist and Administrator > ICT Peer Coach > Epsom Primary School > Victoria > Australia > > ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 > Slide2learn founding and team member > > twitter jjash > fring jjash > skype jenashby > My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 > > http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au > > > > > > > > On 21/07/2011, at 9:24 AM, Sam Osborne wrote: > >> So also announced today alongside Lion, Mac Mini, and Air is that the white MacBook is only now available for education. >> >> For those who currently have a 1:1 MacBook program, are you concerned of this? Eventually it seems that they will discontinue the White MacBook completely to replace it with the Air once they have given us some time and got the pricing model working for us, I assume. >> >> I think the Air does all we need, but are we really ready to drop optical media? Most of the time we wouldn't use it, but having it there as an option is always nice. Maybe should just buy a couple external drives for on-demand borrowing. >> >> Does anyone have an Air? Do you think it's great/good/poor for day to day student use? I'm yet to have a good play with one. >> _________________________ >> Sam Osborne >> IT Technician >> MacKillop College >> t : 02 6338 2200 >> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, James From jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au Sun Jul 24 07:02:16 2011 From: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au (James Humberstone, MLC School) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 07:02:16 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Thank you - MacBook Message-ID: <1F589514-39FC-4939-AED9-AD7BA8AA9393@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> Dear all, Thanks to those who contacted me about the MacBook for my wife. We've secured one now. Hope you're all having fun getting used to the Lion gestures! Best, James James Humberstone | Composer In Residence | Music MLC School | Rowley Street | BURWOOD | NSW | 2134 | Australia p: +61 2 8741 3136 | f: +61 2 9745 3254 | | e: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au | www.mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email (including any attachments) is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, use, disclose, distribute or rely on the information contained in it. 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Hoping someone can remind me, as I return to the hamster wheel after 4 weeks of school holidays. Many thanks. Regards, Matt. 0418-624 631 From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au Mon Jul 25 16:35:36 2011 From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:35:36 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Dead ethernet Message-ID: <46DBA031-D021-448F-94A2-5BD5BD54FC38@optusnet.com.au> We have an old xserve (pre intel) sitting in the store room at school with a dead ethernet port. The machine will boot fine but I can't connect it to the network. I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the new usb to ethernet adaptors that apple have produced for the macbook airs would work on this old machine. If they do then I can use one of these to set this machine up on the network using Plex to run our music and videos. Any help would be appreciated John From mlevins at as.edu.au Mon Jul 25 16:41:21 2011 From: mlevins at as.edu.au (martin levins) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:41:21 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Dead ethernet In-Reply-To: <46DBA031-D021-448F-94A2-5BD5BD54FC38@optusnet.com.au> References: <46DBA031-D021-448F-94A2-5BD5BD54FC38@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <7C47137E-8BD1-46D3-9B7E-E587012E0102@as.edu.au> Hi John You can put a cheap ethernet card into the xserve. Just plug into the PCI slot Martin On 25/07/2011, at 4:35 PM, John Akhurst wrote: > > We have an old xserve (pre intel) sitting in the store room at school with a dead ethernet port. The machine will boot fine but I can't connect it to the network. I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the new usb to ethernet adaptors that apple have produced for the macbook airs would work on this old machine. If they do then I can use one of these to set this machine up on the network using Plex to run our music and videos. > > Any help would be appreciated > > John > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au Mon Jul 25 16:53:18 2011 From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:53:18 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Dead ethernet In-Reply-To: <7C47137E-8BD1-46D3-9B7E-E587012E0102@as.edu.au> References: <46DBA031-D021-448F-94A2-5BD5BD54FC38@optusnet.com.au> <7C47137E-8BD1-46D3-9B7E-E587012E0102@as.edu.au> Message-ID: Thanks Martin John On 25/07/2011, at 4:41 PM, martin levins wrote: > Hi John > > You can put a cheap ethernet card into the xserve. Just plug into the PCI slot > > Martin > > On 25/07/2011, at 4:35 PM, John Akhurst wrote: > >> >> We have an old xserve (pre intel) sitting in the store room at school with a dead ethernet port. The machine will boot fine but I can't connect it to the network. I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the new usb to ethernet adaptors that apple have produced for the macbook airs would work on this old machine. If they do then I can use one of these to set this machine up on the network using Plex to run our music and videos. >> >> Any help would be appreciated >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From mrwheadon at mac.com Tue Jul 26 09:33:11 2011 From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:33:11 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Admin user needed to unpause print jobs Message-ID: <9D33B926-50EA-4265-BAE1-686D77CA8184@mac.com> Hi all, Client machines, some on 10.5.8 and others on 10.6.7 and 10.6.8 - standard local user logged in. Printing wirelessly to HP2025dn and HP3600 printers. If for any reason a print job gets paused (eg run out of paper) - the standard user cannot resume the print queue. Admin user needed to 'unpause' the print jobs. Does anyone know to enable the local standard user (or any non admin user) to 'unpause' print jobs? This is the closest I've found - anyone recommend it before I dive in? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2633489?threadID=2633489 Thanks, Mike From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au Tue Jul 26 14:43:36 2011 From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:43:36 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Admin user needed to unpause print jobs In-Reply-To: <9D33B926-50EA-4265-BAE1-686D77CA8184@mac.com> References: <9D33B926-50EA-4265-BAE1-686D77CA8184@mac.com> Message-ID: <1B83DF4D-4F36-4D8D-9E3C-F1C9CEECFDCC@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> Yes you can modify the cups.conf to give permission http://gothamlabs.org/?p=10 _________________________ Sam Osborne IT Technician MacKillop College t : 02 6338 2200 www.mkc.nsw.edu.au On 26/07/2011, at 9:33 AM, Mike Wheadon wrote: > Hi all, > Client machines, some on 10.5.8 and others on 10.6.7 and 10.6.8 - standard local user logged in. > Printing wirelessly to HP2025dn and HP3600 printers. > If for any reason a print job gets paused (eg run out of paper) - the standard user cannot resume the print queue. Admin user needed to 'unpause' the print jobs. > > Does anyone know to enable the local standard user (or any non admin user) to 'unpause' print jobs? > > This is the closest I've found - anyone recommend it before I dive in? > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2633489?threadID=2633489 > > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From mrwheadon at mac.com Tue Jul 26 14:48:12 2011 From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:48:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Admin user needed to unpause print jobs In-Reply-To: <1B83DF4D-4F36-4D8D-9E3C-F1C9CEECFDCC@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> References: <9D33B926-50EA-4265-BAE1-686D77CA8184@mac.com> <1B83DF4D-4F36-4D8D-9E3C-F1C9CEECFDCC@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <502D0FDA-199F-4C2E-A770-CDF2D60FEA1F@mac.com> Thanks Sam, I check it out. Mike On 26/07/2011, at 2:43 PM, Sam Osborne wrote: > Yes you can modify the cups.conf to give permission > > http://gothamlabs.org/?p=10 > _________________________ > Sam Osborne > IT Technician > MacKillop College > t : 02 6338 2200 > www.mkc.nsw.edu.au > > On 26/07/2011, at 9:33 AM, Mike Wheadon wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Client machines, some on 10.5.8 and others on 10.6.7 and 10.6.8 - standard local user logged in. >> Printing wirelessly to HP2025dn and HP3600 printers. >> If for any reason a print job gets paused (eg run out of paper) - the standard user cannot resume the print queue. Admin user needed to 'unpause' the print jobs. >> >> Does anyone know to enable the local standard user (or any non admin user) to 'unpause' print jobs? >> >> This is the closest I've found - anyone recommend it before I dive in? >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2633489?threadID=2633489 >> >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au Tue Jul 26 14:59:21 2011 From: bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au (BrettMoller) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:59:21 +1000 Subject: [Maced] OsX Lion Server In-Reply-To: <1F589514-39FC-4939-AED9-AD7BA8AA9393@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> References: <1F589514-39FC-4939-AED9-AD7BA8AA9393@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi there Wondering if anyone has started using lion server collaborative services. Wiki server with blogs and the new docs feature looks great.... However the changes to podcast producer seem to have been substantial enough to have stopped all my precious workflows working. Anyone upgraded to lion and know how to get their way around changes to podcast producer? Would appreciate someone to chat to about changes and how we can best utilize them at school. Cheers Brett From mcphee.matt.g at edumail.vic.gov.au Tue Jul 26 18:18:12 2011 From: mcphee.matt.g at edumail.vic.gov.au (Mcphee, Matt G) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:18:12 +0000 Subject: [Maced] Please remove from the email list Message-ID: Please remove from the email list Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at skoss.org Tue Jul 26 19:00:50 2011 From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:30:50 +0930 Subject: [Maced] Superscript (eg. 2 to the power of 3) inside a table in Pages...can someone check if this is possible? Message-ID: <05AB7346-3637-49CE-9BDE-F4CDBBE10F81@skoss.org> Each time I do 2^3 (via Format-->Font-->Baseline-->Superscript), it reverts to 23, when using Pages. Is this something Pages won't do? Hoping someone can check. Many thanks. Regards, Matt. From bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au Tue Jul 26 19:22:20 2011 From: bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au (BrettMoller) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:22:20 +1000 Subject: [Maced] [ADE List] OsX Lion Server In-Reply-To: <665EC32D-4A47-465D-8D98-8081B3B76815@ascbc.nsw.edu.au> References: <1F589514-39FC-4939-AED9-AD7BA8AA9393@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> <665EC32D-4A47-465D-8D98-8081B3B76815@ascbc.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi Matt Overall I really like the simplicity of it - while still having a number of really powerful new features... As mentioned I am really keen to get an overview from someone who knows about the changes to pcp and wiki server... However as our tech consultant said to me this afternoon - it is hard to find good advice when you upgrade the nano second something comes out!! :-) Out techs started testing profile manager today in the hope it delivers some useful school wide features across our fleet of macs and iOS devices. Perfect example today was when I notice our principals iPad was still running iOS 3.3! It looks like new features will help us deploy updates more frequently amongst the whole fleet and makes sure old software is not still running. Will keep let you know what else we discover! Thanks, Brett On 26/07/2011, at 3:02 PM, "Matthew Wells" wrote: > Hi Brett, > > Apart from the issue you are having with podcast producer... > > What are your overall impressions of Lion Server? > > Matt > > > On 26/07/2011, at 2:59 PM, BrettMoller wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> Wondering if anyone has started using lion server collaborative services. Wiki server with blogs and the new docs feature looks great.... However the changes to podcast producer seem to have been substantial enough to have stopped all my precious workflows working. Anyone upgraded to lion and know how to get their way around changes to podcast producer? >> >> Would appreciate someone to chat to about changes and how we can best utilize them at school. >> >> Cheers >> >> Brett >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> ADE mailing list (ADE at lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/ade/wellsm%40ascbc.nsw.edu.au >> >> This email sent to wellsm at ascbc.nsw.edu.au > From martin at levins.net Tue Jul 26 18:22:24 2011 From: martin at levins.net (martin) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:22:24 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Please remove from the email list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A8CE7E9-BD74-41E7-989B-49251AD5CC68@levins.net> Please see the link below to remove your email from the list Cheers Martin On 26/07/2011, at 6:18 PM, Mcphee, Matt G wrote: > Please remove from the email list > > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. 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In-Reply-To: <05AB7346-3637-49CE-9BDE-F4CDBBE10F81@skoss.org> References: <05AB7346-3637-49CE-9BDE-F4CDBBE10F81@skoss.org> Message-ID: <611E1538-0A52-4961-8C3D-B62F3EA8210E@optusnet.com.au> You can if you change the format of the cell to text but not if any of the other cell formats are used. Larry Sent from my iPhone On 26/07/2011, at 7:00 PM, Matt Skoss wrote: > Each time I do 2^3 (via Format-->Font-->Baseline-->Superscript), it reverts to 23, when using Pages. > > Is this something Pages won't do? > > Hoping someone can check. > > Many thanks. > > Regards, Matt. > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From patrick.helm at maxcomputing.com.au Tue Jul 26 21:12:01 2011 From: patrick.helm at maxcomputing.com.au (Patrick Helm) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:12:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] [ADE List] OsX Lion Server In-Reply-To: References: <1F589514-39FC-4939-AED9-AD7BA8AA9393@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> <665EC32D-4A47-465D-8D98-8081B3B76815@ascbc.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi Brett, Thanks for the updates, keep them coming as you find more details :) Kind Regards, Patrick Helm Managing Director Apple Certified Technical Coordinator 10.6 2011 Sydney to Gong Ride - Sponsor Patrick Helm Click to get Dropbox for 2GB free storage to sync your data. Max Computing Services w: www.maxcomputing.com.au m: 0403 844 009 t: 1300 86 50 80 or 02 9045 0337 On 26/07/2011, at 7:22 PM, BrettMoller wrote: > Hi Matt > > Overall I really like the simplicity of it - while still having a number of really powerful new features... > > As mentioned I am really keen to get an overview from someone who knows about the changes to pcp and wiki server... However as our tech consultant said to me this afternoon - it is hard to find good advice when you upgrade the nano second something comes out!! :-) > > Out techs started testing profile manager today in the hope it delivers some useful school wide features across our fleet of macs and iOS devices. Perfect example today was when I notice our principals iPad was still running iOS 3.3! It looks like new features will help us deploy updates more frequently amongst the whole fleet and makes sure old software is not still running. > > Will keep let you know what else we discover! > > Thanks, > > Brett > > On 26/07/2011, at 3:02 PM, "Matthew Wells" wrote: > >> Hi Brett, >> >> Apart from the issue you are having with podcast producer... >> >> What are your overall impressions of Lion Server? >> >> Matt >> >> >> On 26/07/2011, at 2:59 PM, BrettMoller wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> >>> Wondering if anyone has started using lion server collaborative services. Wiki server with blogs and the new docs feature looks great.... However the changes to podcast producer seem to have been substantial enough to have stopped all my precious workflows working. Anyone upgraded to lion and know how to get their way around changes to podcast producer? >>> >>> Would appreciate someone to chat to about changes and how we can best utilize them at school. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brett >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> ADE mailing list (ADE at lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/ade/wellsm%40ascbc.nsw.edu.au >>> >>> This email sent to wellsm at ascbc.nsw.edu.au >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mallee at mac.com Wed Jul 27 14:08:12 2011 From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:08:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] =?windows-1252?q?Think_Networked_=96_BYO_iPads_=96_and_St?= =?windows-1252?q?udent_Centred_Learning?= Message-ID: Think Networked ? BYO iPads ? and Student Centred Learning Dear colleagues Have noted the growing number of queries about purchasing iPads for use in the library and across the school. Can I strongly suggest before you make too many moves in that direction you think about the wider implications of the current shift to a networked and evermore collaborative mode of schooling? Think how you and your school are going to accommodate both the increasingly powerful global shift to a BYO model of mobile technology use and the desirability of a more student centric, individualised mode of learning. These are issues I?ll be addressing with the Wollongong and Sydney CEO T/Ls next Wednesday. As evermore schools go digital, and in particular move to the networked mode and collaborate with their homes and community in the 24/7/365 ?teaching? of the kids so they are moving to adopt a networked operational mindset. Where within the traditional ?stand alone? mode of schooling one asks how can the school get the money to buy the gear the school believes is best for the kids to use within the networked mode the school asks how can it best collaborate with its homes and community in identifying how the school community can acquire and collaboratively use the desired tools 24/7/265 ? and not simply the 16% of the waking time each year the kids are in class. This is turn links to the very powerful desires globally by parents and the students to use their preferred mobile technology in class ? in addition to everywhere else. Ironically the only place they are currently prevented from using that technology is in the classroom. The April 2011 Project Tomorrow survey makes particular mention of the digital empowerment of the modern parent ? who while wanting to collaborate with their schools in the astute use of the mobile technology flag that if the schools don?t collaborate they will provide the education and use the ballot box to bring the desired change. NB ? near on 70% of the 42,000 parents surveyed said they want their children?s preferred mobile technology to be used in class ? and vitally ? the parents want to chose and buy that technology ? and not the school. That is what is happening today in those pathfinding primary and secondary schools operating within the networked mode. Those schools look after the disadvantaged but provide an infrastructure and technology management model that enables the kids to use and be responsible for their own technology. It is appreciated it is a model that some of you might struggle to comprehend but within schools where all the teachers have normalised the everyday use of the digital and who have also normalised everyday collaboration with their homes and community it is all very natural. Allied is the need to appreciate the use of the iPad is very strongly geared towards the individual user and his/her account within iTunes. The licensing of the apps is geared to the individual. It is very easy for schools, state and private, primary and secondary to have the kids use their own iPad in the classroom. It is very challenging, particularly in a state school tied to a central network for the school to use iPads owned by the school in sizeable numbers. The hassle of accessing many of the great apps can be immense if not too daunting. Not impossible but? Talk to the pathfinders who have tried to get it to work And last but not least ask whether you want to replicate a mass model of teacher centric teaching or one that is somewhat more individualised? All I?m suggesting is that before rushing in as a school and automatically preparing to impose iPads and a dated and very expensive acquisition model think through all the implications and your client?s desires. Interestingly while 70% of parents wanted to have the kids use their own technology in class 65% of school principals said ?no way?. Surprised? Regards Mal Lee Author/educational consultant PO Box 5010 Broulee NSW 2537 Australia http://malleehome.com Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mallee at mac.com Wed Jul 27 14:21:22 2011 From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:21:22 +1000 Subject: [Maced] =?windows-1252?q?Think_Networked_=96_BYO_iPads_=96_and_St?= =?windows-1252?q?udent_Centred_Learning?= Message-ID: <002E9D7C-1FCB-49B9-82BD-96AF1C419EFD@mac.com> Hi Have just posted the note below on the OZTL-Net list Am conscious we discussed this issue many moons ago to gasps of shock and horror But much has happened since then Know Martin has spoken to a number of groups re the development Know also Dave Hounsell has first hand experience and some very telling insights into the 'ease' of using iPads when owned by the kids - but the major hassles when owned by the school within a system The Project Tomorrow expression of the parent desires is relatively new and very telling Am aware of the work we are currently doing with those case studies around the world working in the networked mode all are moving over the BYO model So with that lead in hope you find the below of value Regards Mal Lee Think Networked ? BYO iPads ? and Student Centred Learning Dear colleagues Have noted the growing number of queries about purchasing iPads for use in the library and across the school. Can I strongly suggest before you make too many moves in that direction you think about the wider implications of the current shift to a networked and evermore collaborative mode of schooling? Think how you and your school are going to accommodate both the increasingly powerful global shift to a BYO model of mobile technology use and the desirability of a more student centric, individualised mode of learning. These are issues I?ll be addressing with the Wollongong and Sydney CEO T/Ls next Wednesday. As evermore schools go digital, and in particular move to the networked mode and collaborate with their homes and community in the 24/7/365 ?teaching? of the kids so they are moving to adopt a networked operational mindset. Where within the traditional ?stand alone? mode of schooling one asks how can the school get the money to buy the gear the school believes is best for the kids to use within the networked mode the school asks how can it best collaborate with its homes and community in identifying how the school community can acquire and collaboratively use the desired tools 24/7/265 ? and not simply the 16% of the waking time each year the kids are in class. This is turn links to the very powerful desires globally by parents and the students to use their preferred mobile technology in class ? in addition to everywhere else. Ironically the only place they are currently prevented from using that technology is in the classroom. The April 2011 Project Tomorrow survey makes particular mention of the digital empowerment of the modern parent ? who while wanting to collaborate with their schools in the astute use of the mobile technology flag that if the schools don?t collaborate they will provide the education and use the ballot box to bring the desired change. NB ? near on 70% of the 42,000 parents surveyed said they want their children?s preferred mobile technology to be used in class ? and vitally ? the parents want to chose and buy that technology ? and not the school. That is what is happening today in those pathfinding primary and secondary schools operating within the networked mode. Those schools look after the disadvantaged but provide an infrastructure and technology management model that enables the kids to use and be responsible for their own technology. It is appreciated it is a model that some of you might struggle to comprehend but within schools where all the teachers have normalised the everyday use of the digital and who have also normalised everyday collaboration with their homes and community it is all very natural. Allied is the need to appreciate the use of the iPad is very strongly geared towards the individual user and his/her account within iTunes. The licensing of the apps is geared to the individual. It is very easy for schools, state and private, primary and secondary to have the kids use their own iPad in the classroom. It is very challenging, particularly in a state school tied to a central network for the school to use iPads owned by the school in sizeable numbers. The hassle of accessing many of the great apps can be immense if not too daunting. Not impossible but? Talk to the pathfinders who have tried to get it to work And last but not least ask whether you want to replicate a mass model of teacher centric teaching or one that is somewhat more individualised? All I?m suggesting is that before rushing in as a school and automatically preparing to impose iPads and a dated and very expensive acquisition model think through all the implications and your client?s desires. Interestingly while 70% of parents wanted to have the kids use their own technology in class 65% of school principals said ?no way?. Surprised? Regards Mal Lee Author/educational consultant PO Box 5010 Broulee NSW 2537 Australia http://malleehome.com Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au Wed Jul 27 19:54:03 2011 From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:24:03 +0930 Subject: [Maced] =?iso-8859-1?q?Think_Networked_=AD_BYO_iPads_=AD_and_Stud?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ent_Centred_Learning?= In-Reply-To: <002E9D7C-1FCB-49B9-82BD-96AF1C419EFD@mac.com> Message-ID: Mal, Having just Googled Project Tomorrow, and found it to be an American site, I have some questions: Given that our two educations systems are quite different, with the American systems more testing-centric, are American parents' perceptions about the perceived effectiveness of technology going to be similar to ours? Can the results be extrapolated to Australian parents? The statement below that "70% parents wanted ?" is a slight twisting of the actual statement in the report that "67 percent of parents said they would purchase a mobile device for their child to use for schoolwork if the school allowed it, and 61 percent said they liked the idea of students using mobile devices to access online textbooks." I suspect parents were responding more to the phrase "if the school allowed it" rather than for the perceived worth of mobile devices to improve learning. Also, without seeing the original question, I suspect the parents were responding to a leading question ? after all, what parent would want to deny their child an opportunity to learn? It is unsurprising that the majority of parents responded in the affirmative and I think the 67% statistic is questionable. The trend to personally owned mobile devices (phones and tablets) is empowering for individuals when it improves communication, access and collaboration, but how can a classroom teacher efficiently harness disparate technologies which lack consistency from student to student? For the teacher not to be limited to the lowest common denominator, requires the technology to be consistent across the class. My 2 cents. David From: Mal Lee Reply-To: MacEd Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:21:22 +1000 To: MacEd Subject: [Maced] Think Networked ? BYO iPads ? and Student Centred Learning Interestingly while 70% of parents wanted to have the kids use their own technology in class 65% of school principals said ?no way?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Wed Jul 27 20:49:37 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 03:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] iPad - Apple abandons equity in Education. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1311763777.80628.YahooMailClassic@web112612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> The more I use an iPads in a public school context, the more I realise the following.Apple machines from way back have been a great tool for ensuring equity of access in schools.Local or networked accounts meant desktops or laptops could be shared between multiple users, with each user experiencing a degree of personal ownership.iPads don't do this and Apple seems to have no interest in developing software to provision this.iPads demand individual iTunes accounts for unique single users.So the rich kids get their own iPads.The poorer kids just look on. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au Wed Jul 27 22:34:59 2011 From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Mike Parker) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:34:59 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad - Apple abandons equity in Education. In-Reply-To: <1311763777.80628.YahooMailClassic@web112612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1311763777.80628.YahooMailClassic@web112612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <184A77B5-FD17-48C2-A7A6-F8EAC6205931@kambala.nsw.edu.au> If you want equity in the school, standardise what the kids are using. It's not Apple's fault that there is no budget to provide the kids a standard environment to work in. They haven't removed the ability to use network home directories. Actually, they have made it cheaper for the OS and the server version. You can do an awful lot with iphone3g's now (not many people want them now that you can't update to the latest version of IOS.) Iphones run nearly all of the software of ipads. I'm thinking of a wireless access point in the classroom, and iphones/ipod touches and ipads, because very similar in usage. Maybe you dissagree, but it's one thing you could try. A nice class project might be to work in groups and design a website via http://www.weebly.com/ (A nice free web based tool for creating websites) explaining the problem and asking for a donation of an old iphone or ipod touch. If you get slashdot'ed (www.slashdot.org) you'll likely end up with hundreds of old phones and ipod touches being sent to you (As well as wireless gear if you as for it). Thats one way to tackle the issue. Mike On 27/07/2011, at 8:49 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote: > The more I use an iPads in a public school context, the more I realise the following. > Apple machines from way back have been a great tool for ensuring equity of access in schools. > Local or networked accounts meant desktops or laptops could be shared between multiple users, with each user experiencing a degree of personal ownership. > iPads don't do this and Apple seems to have no interest in developing software to provision this. > iPads demand individual iTunes accounts for unique single users. > So the rich kids get their own iPads. > The poorer kids just look on. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Thu Jul 28 05:27:50 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] iPad - Apple abandons equity in Education. In-Reply-To: <184A77B5-FD17-48C2-A7A6-F8EAC6205931@kambala.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <1311794870.27248.YahooMailClassic@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Thanks Mike - both good ideas. I'll check both sites out.But you're missing my point. I agree that No brainer! But, iPads could represent a cost effective way to provide a standardised operating environment.There seems no provision in iTunes for deployment of software to multiple iPads legally.That is Apples responsibility. But I get the impression they're not very interested in pursuing that. Multi user logon ability would mean students could share iPads and have their own iTunes account and config profile. --- On Wed, 27/7/11, Mike Parker wrote: From: Mike Parker Subject: Re: [Maced] iPad - Apple abandons equity in Education. To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Received: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 10:34 PM If you want equity in the school, standardise what the kids are using. ?It's not Apple's fault that there is no budget to provide the kids a standard environment to work in. ?They haven't removed the ability to use network home directories. ?Actually, they have made it cheaper for the OS and the server version. You can do an awful lot with iphone3g's now (not many people want them now that you can't update to the latest version of IOS.) ?Iphones run nearly all of the software of ipads. ?I'm thinking of a wireless access point in the classroom, and iphones/ipod touches and ipads, because very similar in usage. ?Maybe you dissagree, but it's one thing you could try. A nice class project might be to work in groups and design a website via?http://www.weebly.com/ (A nice free web based tool for creating websites) explaining the problem and asking for a donation of an old iphone or ipod touch. ?If you get slashdot'ed (www.slashdot.org) you'll likely end up with hundreds of old phones and ipod touches being sent to you (As well as wireless gear if you as for it). ? Thats one way to tackle the issue. Mike On 27/07/2011, at 8:49 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote: The more I use an iPads in a public school context, the more I realise the following.Apple machines from way back have been a great tool for ensuring equity of access in schools.Local or networked accounts meant desktops or laptops could be shared between multiple users, with each user experiencing a degree of personal ownership.iPads don't do this and Apple seems to have no interest in developing software to provision this.iPads demand individual iTunes accounts for unique single users.So the rich kids get their own iPads.The poorer kids just look on. Dave_______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mallee at mac.com Thu Jul 28 08:35:10 2011 From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:35:10 +1000 Subject: [Maced] =?iso-8859-1?q?Think_Networked_=AD_BYO_iPads_=AD_and_Stud?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ent_Centred_Learning?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Where the Project Tomorrow survey results are of interest is the fact they are US - and gauging from the feedback we were getting from the UK, NZ and Australian case study schools we had been looking at we in fact expected the US figures to be significantly lower Allied to those 2010 figures were those of 2009 which reveal a strong call in the student survey by the students to use their own preferred technology in class Interestingly when we prepared Developing a Networked School Community that was published in 2010 we had picked up the trend based largely on 2008/2009 figures When we came to work on the follow up book and selected some 16 case studies from across the developed world we were very surprised how many in the last 12 months or so were piloting or using a BYO model The Project Tomorrow figures based as it was on a sample of 42,000 odd parents gave substance to the trend we had already identified It was also consonant Forsythe County case study in Atlanta - where that authority is well into piloting several BYO models at the primary and secondary level What is also significant in the Project Tomorrow survey write up is the section on parent digital empowerment - and that group's desire to have a voice in what transpires While it might come as surprise to some of us we are now beginning to see Net Generation parents with school age kids - knowing full well what they want That empowerment is consistent with Clay Shirky's (2008) observation about digital empowerment All I'm reporting upon is a significant global trend A trend that fits with the megatrend that sees the children's homes having a burgeoning digital and 'teaching' capacity while governments globally struggle to provide the technology and in fact in the likes of the US/UK/Europe instigate cut backs Cheers Mal On 27/07/2011, at 7:54 PM, David Jones wrote: > Mal, > Having just Googled Project Tomorrow, and found it to be an American site, I have some questions: > Given that our two educations systems are quite different, with the American systems more testing-centric, are American parents' perceptions about the perceived effectiveness of technology going to be similar to ours? Can the results be extrapolated to Australian parents? > > The statement below that "70% parents wanted ?" is a slight twisting of the actual statement in the report that "67 percent of parents said they would purchase a mobile device for their child to use for schoolwork if the school allowed it, and 61 percent said they liked the idea of students using mobile devices to access online textbooks." I suspect parents were responding more to the phrase "if the school allowed it" rather than for the perceived worth of mobile devices to improve learning. > Also, without seeing the original question, I suspect the parents were responding to a leading question ? after all, what parent would want to deny their child an opportunity to learn? It is unsurprising that the majority of parents responded in the affirmative and I think the 67% statistic is questionable. > > The trend to personally owned mobile devices (phones and tablets) is empowering for individuals when it improves communication, access and collaboration, but how can a classroom teacher efficiently harness disparate technologies which lack consistency from student to student? For the teacher not to be limited to the lowest common denominator, requires the technology to be consistent across the class. > > My 2 cents. > David > > > > From: Mal Lee > Reply-To: MacEd > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:21:22 +1000 > To: MacEd > Subject: [Maced] Think Networked ? BYO iPads ? and Student Centred Learning > > Interestingly while 70% of parents wanted to have the kids use their own technology in class 65% of school principals said ?no way?. > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Author/educational consultant PO Box 5010 Broulee NSW 2537 Australia http://malleehome.com Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dwren at padua.qld.edu.au Thu Jul 28 08:39:26 2011 From: dwren at padua.qld.edu.au (David Wren) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:39:26 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad - Apple abandons equity in Education. In-Reply-To: <1311794870.27248.YahooMailClassic@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1311794870.27248.YahooMailClassic@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <79D4AA84-4EB8-48DA-A6E0-3BC3DEDA3D8A@padua.qld.edu.au> Have you condsidered; http://www.absolute.com/en/products/absolute-manage/mdm-overview/features.aspx for the management of iPads etc. and using WebDav for kids to 'hand in ' work etc. David Padua College Kedron Qld On 28/07/2011, at 5:27 AM, Dave Hounsell wrote: > Thanks Mike - both good ideas. I'll check both sites out. > But you're missing my point. > > I agree that No brainer! > > But, iPads could represent a cost effective way to provide a standardised operating environment. > There seems no provision in iTunes for deployment of software to multiple iPads legally. > That is Apples responsibility. But I get the impression they're not very interested in pursuing that. > > Multi user logon ability would mean students could share iPads and have their own iTunes account and config profile. > > --- On Wed, 27/7/11, Mike Parker wrote: > > From: Mike Parker > Subject: Re: [Maced] iPad - Apple abandons equity in Education. > To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au > Received: Wednesday, 27 July, 2011, 10:34 PM > > If you want equity in the school, standardise what the kids are using. It's not Apple's fault that there is no budget to provide the kids a standard environment to work in. They haven't removed the ability to use network home directories. Actually, they have made it cheaper for the OS and the server version. > > You can do an awful lot with iphone3g's now (not many people want them now that you can't update to the latest version of IOS.) Iphones run nearly all of the software of ipads. I'm thinking of a wireless access point in the classroom, and iphones/ipod touches and ipads, because very similar in usage. Maybe you dissagree, but it's one thing you could try. > > A nice class project might be to work in groups and design a website via http://www.weebly.com/ (A nice free web based tool for creating websites) explaining the problem and asking for a donation of an old iphone or ipod touch. If you get slashdot'ed (www.slashdot.org) you'll likely end up with hundreds of old phones and ipod touches being sent to you (As well as wireless gear if you as for it). > > Thats one way to tackle the issue. > > Mike > > > > > > > > On 27/07/2011, at 8:49 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote: > >> The more I use an iPads in a public school context, the more I realise the following. >> Apple machines from way back have been a great tool for ensuring equity of access in schools. >> Local or networked accounts meant desktops or laptops could be shared between multiple users, with each user experiencing a degree of personal ownership. >> iPads don't do this and Apple seems to have no interest in developing software to provision this. >> iPads demand individual iTunes accounts for unique single users. >> So the rich kids get their own iPads. >> The poorer kids just look on. >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > Scanned by the Netbox from Netbox Blue _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au Thu Jul 28 09:24:40 2011 From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:54:40 +0930 Subject: [Maced] =?euc-kr?q?Think_Networked_=A1=A9_BYO_iPads_=A1=A9_and_St?= =?euc-kr?q?udent_Centred_Learning?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mal Thanks for your comments. I have no doubt the trend is as you describe but I do question the rigour of their statistical results and therefore of their conclusions, even though they are based on a sample of 42000. I also think the trend is inevitable and that we should be welcoming it and taking advantage of what it offers. The frustration I have is that our experience since 1995 is that in the secondary environment, for digital techniques to be highly integrated into the curriculum and used as creative content creation tools, even though ours is BYO, requires a standardised environment. Anything else is often too difficult to manage, resulting in teachers reverting to much simpler types of usage or even back to non-digital methodologies. Cheers David From: Mal Lee Reply-To: MacEd Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:35:10 +1000 To: MacEd Subject: Re: [Maced] Think Networked ? BYO iPads ? and Student Centred Learning David Where the Project Tomorrow survey results are of interest is the fact they are US - and gauging from the feedback we were getting from the UK, NZ and Australian case study schools we had been looking at we in fact expected the US figures to be significantly lower Allied to those 2010 figures were those of 2009 which reveal a strong call in the student survey by the students to use their own preferred technology in class Interestingly when we prepared Developing a Networked School Community that was published in 2010 we had picked up the trend based largely on 2008/2009 figures When we came to work on the follow up book and selected some 16 case studies from across the developed world we were very surprised how many in the last 12 months or so were piloting or using a BYO model The Project Tomorrow figures based as it was on a sample of 42,000 odd parents gave substance to the trend we had already identified It was also consonant Forsythe County case study in Atlanta - where that authority is well into piloting several BYO models at the primary and secondary level What is also significant in the Project Tomorrow survey write up is the section on parent digital empowerment - and that group's desire to have a voice in what transpires While it might come as surprise to some of us we are now beginning to see Net Generation parents with school age kids - knowing full well what they want That empowerment is consistent with Clay Shirky's (2008) observation about digital empowerment All I'm reporting upon is a significant global trend A trend that fits with the megatrend that sees the children's homes having a burgeoning digital and 'teaching' capacity while governments globally struggle to provide the technology and in fact in the likes of the US/UK/Europe instigate cut backs Cheers Mal On 27/07/2011, at 7:54 PM, David Jones wrote: > Mal, > Having just Googled Project Tomorrow, and found it to be an American site, I > have some questions: > Given that our two educations systems are quite different, with the American > systems more testing-centric, are American parents' perceptions about the > perceived effectiveness of technology going to be similar to ours? Can the > results be extrapolated to Australian parents? > > The statement below that "70% parents wanted ?" is a slight twisting of the > actual statement in the report that "67 percent of parents said they would > purchase a mobile device for their child to use for schoolwork if the school > allowed it, and 61 percent said they liked the idea of students using mobile > devices to access online textbooks." I suspect parents were responding more to > the phrase "if the school allowed it" rather than for the perceived worth of > mobile devices to improve learning. > Also, without seeing the original question, I suspect the parents were > responding to a leading question ? after all, what parent would want to deny > their child an opportunity to learn? It is unsurprising that the majority of > parents responded in the affirmative and I think the 67% statistic is > questionable. > > The trend to personally owned mobile devices (phones and tablets) is > empowering for individuals when it improves communication, access and > collaboration, but how can a classroom teacher efficiently harness disparate > technologies which lack consistency from student to student? For the teacher > not to be limited to the lowest common denominator, requires the technology to > be consistent across the class. > > My 2 cents. > David > > > > From: Mal Lee > Reply-To: MacEd > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:21:22 +1000 > To: MacEd > Subject: [Maced] Think Networked ? BYO iPads ? and Student Centred Learning > > Interestingly while 70% of parents wanted to have the kids use their own > technology in class 65% of school principals said ?no way?. > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Author/educational consultant PO Box 5010 Broulee NSW 2537 Australia http://malleehome.com Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From I.Olney at uws.edu.au Thu Jul 28 15:39:18 2011 From: I.Olney at uws.edu.au (Ian Olney) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 05:39:18 +0000 Subject: [Maced] multiple users on an iPad Message-ID: Hi All I have a few iPads that I am placing in the hands of students for a short while (a few days). Each device is used by a few students before I get it back They have been using apps like Notability, Popplet & Chainr etc I would like to them to be able to email their 'documents' to themselves. Is anyone aware of a way of doing this ? I had thought of creating a shared Dropbox - but this gives all access to all Suggestions ? Ta Ian Dr. Ian Olney E-Learning Manager Increased Clinical Training Capacity Project College Of Health University Of Western Sydney Australia Ph 61 2 4620 3704 Mob. 0450 921 083 Fax 61 2 4570 1403 E-Mail i.olney at uws.edu.au Del.icio.us: http://del.icio.us/ianolney Skype Address: iano6666 iChat Address: ianolney at mac.com From paul at paulstewart.me Thu Jul 28 16:04:08 2011 From: paul at paulstewart.me (Paul Stewart) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:04:08 +1000 Subject: [Maced] multiple users on an iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you want to get more granular control than Dropbox (and more storage) I'd recommend SugarSync: http://www.sugarsync.com/ . I use it to consolidate resources and media across my Android phone, my iPad, a Macbook and a school PC. You can assign individual folders to independently sync and allow specific access via email addresses. The iPad app is nicely designed. Worth a try (5 GB free, from memory - I ended up buying storage as I was using it a lot). Paul Stewart eLearning Coordinator Caulfield Grammar School On 28 July 2011 15:39, Ian Olney wrote: > Hi All > > > I have a few iPads that I am placing in the hands of students for a short > while (a few days). > > Each device is used by a few students before I get it back > > They have been using apps like Notability, Popplet & Chainr etc > > I would like to them to be able to email their 'documents' to themselves. > > Is anyone aware of a way of doing this ? > > I had thought of creating a shared Dropbox - but this gives all access to > all > > Suggestions ? > > > Ta > > Ian > > > > Dr. Ian Olney > E-Learning Manager > Increased Clinical Training Capacity Project > College Of Health > University Of Western Sydney > Australia > Ph 61 2 4620 3704 > Mob. 0450 921 083 > Fax 61 2 4570 1403 > E-Mail i.olney at uws.edu.au > > Del.icio.us: http://del.icio.us/ianolney > Skype Address: iano6666 > iChat Address: ianolney at mac.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 28/07/2011, at 3:39 PM, Ian Olney wrote: > Hi All > > > I have a few iPads that I am placing in the hands of students for a short while (a few days). > > Each device is used by a few students before I get it back > > They have been using apps like Notability, Popplet & Chainr etc > > I would like to them to be able to email their 'documents' to themselves. > > Is anyone aware of a way of doing this ? > > I had thought of creating a shared Dropbox - but this gives all access to all > > Suggestions ? > > > Ta > > Ian > > > > Dr. Ian Olney > E-Learning Manager > Increased Clinical Training Capacity Project > College Of Health > University Of Western Sydney > Australia > Ph 61 2 4620 3704 > Mob. 0450 921 083 > Fax 61 2 4570 1403 > E-Mail i.olney at uws.edu.au > > Del.icio.us: http://del.icio.us/ianolney > Skype Address: iano6666 > iChat Address: ianolney at mac.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > Scanned by the Computers Now Firewall > > _______________________________ Leigh Finney leigh.finney at compnow.com.au Computers Now 222 Pacific Highway Crows Nest NSW 2065 t: (02) 9951 7979 f: (02) 9682 4325 Online Service Portal Onsite Job Request Apple Consultants Network Mac & PC Onsite Technical Services Subscribe for Updates CompNow Website CompNow on Twitter CompNow on Facebook Scanned by the Computers Now Firewall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Rod Rod Hysted Assistant Principal Healesville Primary School View St, Healesville 3777 PO Box 222, Healesville 3777 Phone: 613 5962 4053 Fax: 613 5962 6201 On 28/07/2011, at 3:39 PM, Ian Olney wrote: Hi All I have a few iPads that I am placing in the hands of students for a short while (a few days). Each device is used by a few students before I get it back They have been using apps like Notability, Popplet & Chainr etc I would like to them to be able to email their 'documents' to themselves. Is anyone aware of a way of doing this ? I had thought of creating a shared Dropbox - but this gives all access to all Suggestions ? Ta Ian Dr. Ian Olney E-Learning Manager Increased Clinical Training Capacity Project College Of Health University Of Western Sydney Australia Ph 61 2 4620 3704 Mob. 0450 921 083 Fax 61 2 4570 1403 E-Mail i.olney at uws.edu.au Del.icio.us: http://del.icio.us/ianolney Skype Address: iano6666 iChat Address: ianolney at mac.com _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From I.Olney at uws.edu.au Thu Jul 28 21:46:02 2011 From: I.Olney at uws.edu.au (Ian Olney) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:46:02 +0000 Subject: [Maced] multiple users on an iPad In-Reply-To: <378380EB-B9FF-4021-AF5D-32F0DC48261F@mac.com> References: , <378380EB-B9FF-4021-AF5D-32F0DC48261F@mac.com> Message-ID: <0CC62F72-726B-4AEE-8D80-E97C78BAF74B@uws.edu.au> Ta Rod will try this Ian Sent from my iPhone On 28/07/2011, at 8:17 PM, "Rod Hysted" wrote: > Ian, > > You could set up "machine" email accounts and the students could then email to their personal email accounts. We do this with our iPod touches, and know of other schools that do the same. > > Regards > > Rod > > Rod Hysted > Assistant Principal > Healesville Primary School > > View St, Healesville 3777 > > PO Box 222, Healesville 3777 > > Phone: 613 5962 4053 > Fax: 613 5962 6201 > > > > On 28/07/2011, at 3:39 PM, Ian Olney wrote: > > Hi All > > > I have a few iPads that I am placing in the hands of students for a short while (a few days). > > Each device is used by a few students before I get it back > > They have been using apps like Notability, Popplet & Chainr etc > > I would like to them to be able to email their 'documents' to themselves. > > Is anyone aware of a way of doing this ? > > I had thought of creating a shared Dropbox - but this gives all access to all > > Suggestions ? > > > Ta > > Ian > > > > Dr. Ian Olney > E-Learning Manager > Increased Clinical Training Capacity Project > College Of Health > University Of Western Sydney > Australia > Ph 61 2 4620 3704 > Mob. 0450 921 083 > Fax 61 2 4570 1403 > E-Mail i.olney at uws.edu.au > > Del.icio.us: http://del.icio.us/ianolney > Skype Address: iano6666 > iChat Address: ianolney at mac.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au Fri Jul 29 07:41:34 2011 From: bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au (BrettMoller) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:41:34 +1000 Subject: [Maced] [ADE List] OsX Lion Server In-Reply-To: References: <1F589514-39FC-4939-AED9-AD7BA8AA9393@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> <665EC32D-4A47-465D-8D98-8081B3B76815@ascbc.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: Cheers - thanks for that!! Brett On 29/07/2011, at 2:17 AM, "Jeff Johnson" wrote: > Brett, Matt - > > MacEnterprise.org has a plethora of Lion and Lion server comments. Lots of smart (and brave) people are active on this site. > http://www.macenterprise.org/ > > You can search the archives and/or subscribe here > http://lists.psu.edu/archives/macenterprise.html > > I myself have not been an early adopter - I'll likely wait until 10.7.1 or later to migrate from 10.6. > > Best to you both, > > Jeff > -- > Jeff Johnson > Technology Coordinator > ? ADE 2003 > Glendale-River Hills School District > Glendale, WI 53209 > jeff.johnson at glendale.k12.wi.us > > > On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:22 AM, BrettMoller wrote: > >> Hi Matt >> >> Overall I really like the simplicity of it - while still having a number of really powerful new features... >> >> As mentioned I am really keen to get an overview from someone who knows about the changes to pcp and wiki server... However as our tech consultant said to me this afternoon - it is hard to find good advice when you upgrade the nano second something comes out!! :-) >> >> Out techs started testing profile manager today in the hope it delivers some useful school wide features across our fleet of macs and iOS devices. Perfect example today was when I notice our principals iPad was still running iOS 3.3! It looks like new features will help us deploy updates more frequently amongst the whole fleet and makes sure old software is not still running. >> >> Will keep let you know what else we discover! >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brett >> >> On 26/07/2011, at 3:02 PM, "Matthew Wells" wrote: >> >>> Hi Brett, >>> >>> Apart from the issue you are having with podcast producer... >>> >>> What are your overall impressions of Lion Server? >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> On 26/07/2011, at 2:59 PM, BrettMoller wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there >>>> >>>> Wondering if anyone has started using lion server collaborative services. Wiki server with blogs and the new docs feature looks great.... However the changes to podcast producer seem to have been substantial enough to have stopped all my precious workflows working. Anyone upgraded to lion and know how to get their way around changes to podcast producer? >>>> >>>> Would appreciate someone to chat to about changes and how we can best utilize them at school. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Brett > From mallee at mac.com Fri Jul 29 10:16:03 2011 From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:16:03 +1000 Subject: [Maced] A Goat Walks into an Apple Store.... Message-ID: <719075F7-C625-4D98-9795-2E4F229AAAA9@mac.com> Hi folks Want a good giggle - go to http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/faster-forward/post/a-goat-walks-into-an-apple-store/2011/07/27/gIQARSMGdI_blog.html?wpisrc=nl_tech Cheers Mal Lee Author/educational consultant PO Box 5010 Broulee NSW 2537 Australia http://malleehome.com Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 From mlevins at as.edu.au Fri Jul 29 14:26:07 2011 From: mlevins at as.edu.au (Martin Levins) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:26:07 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Apple's finances Message-ID: Hellow everybody From http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/07/28/apples_76b_in_cash_reserves_surpass_us_government_operating_balance.html "New figures from the U.S. Treasury Department indicate that the government has a total operating cash balance of $73.768 billion, less than Apple's own war chest of $75.876 billion." Hmm Cheers Martin ______________________________________ Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins Do you get more than 10 emails a day? Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce ________________________________________________________________________ From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au Fri Jul 29 15:14:59 2011 From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:14:59 +1000 Subject: [Maced] java questions Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450994B740@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> I am getting this when i try to access some iwb pages... "Java is disabled in your browser. Please re-enable it in your browser's options." I have no idea.. help please...... Glennn Southwell at The Rail Albion Park Rail Public ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Sat Jul 30 09:23:07 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] Apple and schools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1311981787.52307.YahooMailClassic@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Most of us on this list I think would agree that Apple make the best tools for empowering students. Their intuitive server software allows schools to create and and easily manage awesome Home Directory and Wiki environments. Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear. Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics.To clarify:iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful.When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small groups to use and a battery that would last out the school day.That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!)Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it.But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one.And multiple user iTune account support would be nice.Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility.Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working.I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm wrong and let me know how to solve the problems. Cheers Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear. > > Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics. > To clarify: > iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful. > When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small groups to use and a battery that would last out the school day. > That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!) > Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it. > But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one. > And multiple user iTune account support would be nice. > Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility. > Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working. > I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm wrong and let me know how to solve the problems. > > Cheers > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From warren at wazmac.com Sat Jul 30 10:37:36 2011 From: warren at wazmac.com (Warren McCullough) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:37:36 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Apple and schools In-Reply-To: <7E2EEDB3-DC60-4736-8AA1-2BBE9E9F0B55@kingscollege.qld.edu.au> References: <1311981787.52307.YahooMailClassic@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7E2EEDB3-DC60-4736-8AA1-2BBE9E9F0B55@kingscollege.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: Like Brett, I haven't spent much time on this yet, but this is worth a read to understand how Lion server may be able to manage MacOSX and iOS on multiple devices?. http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=lion-server-review (Scroll down to the section 'One Profile to Rule them All') Warren On 30/07/2011, at 10:18 AM, BrettMoller wrote: > Have you looked into the lion server abilities and profile manager? To be honest I have just started playing with it and don't know much, but there maybe things there that may solve some of your issues. > > Brett > > On 30/07/2011, at 9:23 AM, "Dave Hounsell" wrote: > >> Most of us on this list I think would agree that Apple make the best tools for empowering students. Their intuitive server software allows schools to create and and easily manage awesome Home Directory and Wiki environments. Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear. >> >> Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics. >> To clarify: >> iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful. >> When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small groups to use and a battery that would last out the school day. >> That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!) >> Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it. >> But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one. >> And multiple user iTune account support would be nice. >> Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility. >> Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working. >> I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm wrong and let me know how to solve the problems. >> >> Cheers >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Sat Jul 30 10:44:09 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] Apple and schools In-Reply-To: <7E2EEDB3-DC60-4736-8AA1-2BBE9E9F0B55@kingscollege.qld.edu.au> Message-ID: <1311986649.42038.YahooMailClassic@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hope so Brett.Last time I talked to an Apple systems engineer he thought Lion Server would just be pushing out config files (eg restrictions) not Apps to iPads. --- On Sat, 30/7/11, BrettMoller wrote: From: BrettMoller Subject: Re: [Maced] Apple and schools To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" Cc: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" Received: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 10:18 AM Have you looked into the lion server abilities and profile manager? ?To be honest I have just started playing with it and don't know much, but there maybe things there that may solve some of your issues. Brett On 30/07/2011, at 9:23 AM, "Dave Hounsell" wrote: Most of us on this list I think would agree that Apple make the best tools for empowering students. Their intuitive server software allows schools to create and and easily manage awesome Home Directory and Wiki environments. Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear. Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics.To clarify:iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful.When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small groups to use and a battery that would last out the school day.That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!)Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it.But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one.And multiple user iTune account support would be nice.Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility.Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working.I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm wrong and let me know how to solve the problems. Cheers Dave _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Sat Jul 30 10:56:32 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] Apple and schools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1311987392.14370.YahooMailClassic@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> When you get it all working I'll buy you lunch at the Muffo.The article was a bit technical for me! :)Still get the impression it only manages stuff like restrictions and accounts.What I think we really need is Deploy Studio for iPad!? --- On Sat, 30/7/11, Warren McCullough wrote: From: Warren McCullough Subject: Re: [Maced] Apple and schools To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Received: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 10:37 AM Like Brett, I haven't spent much time on this yet, but this is worth a read to understand how Lion server may be able to manage MacOSX and iOS on multiple devices?. http://www.afp548.com/article.php?story=lion-server-review (Scroll down to the section 'One Profile to Rule them All') Warren On 30/07/2011, at 10:18 AM, BrettMoller wrote: Have you looked into the lion server abilities and profile manager? ?To be honest I have just started playing with it and don't know much, but there maybe things there that may solve some of your issues. Brett On 30/07/2011, at 9:23 AM, "Dave Hounsell" wrote: Most of us on this list I think would agree that Apple make the best tools for empowering students. Their intuitive server software allows schools to create and and easily manage awesome Home Directory and Wiki environments. Mac Mini Server is a brilliant bit of gear. Recently I posted in MacEd about iPads lacking equity because they have no facility for multiple user accounts, which is a necessity for cash strapped public education where iPad fleets need to be shared. One on one just isn't doable in most public schools due to socio-economics.To clarify:iPads and the App store is brilliantly conceived. The single user iPad experience is wonderful.When iPads appeared on the market, I was very excited, finally having access to a robust digital device with a screen big enough for small groups to use and a battery that would last out the school day.That excitement has been dulled somewhat by the difficulties created by the DEC (NSWDET) proxy firewall and lack of Flash support. Big problem when so many online resources are Flash based. (iSwifter doesn't seem to support proxy, and even if it did, it would probably be a blocked site!)Now, I know the reasons for Flash being excluded, and can live with it.But I can't see why iTunes can't have a facility so I can legally bulk deploy a standard image to multiple iPads - all at once, not one by one.And multiple user iTune account support would be nice.Really helpful would be a list of Education Apps that work with Proxy. Might encourage a few more developers to realise the importance of this facility.Haven't been game to download iTunes 10.4 in case my current deployment strategy stops working.I'm actually hoping someone will post to say I'm wrong and let me know how to solve the problems. Cheers Dave _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com Sat Jul 30 22:18:57 2011 From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:18:57 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Flickering projector Message-ID: In a general sense, why would an IWB projector flicker (like the refresh rate is wrong). It is a fairly new Epson short throw. Seems OK with the teacher's Macbook, but the ACER Travel Mate it is sometimes connected to flickers. No improvement by changing refresh rates or resolution. Welcome any reports of similar events. Jco From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Sun Jul 31 00:42:11 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] Flickering projector In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1312036931.62331.YahooMailClassic@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi JockHave you checked the video and vga port on the Travel Mate by plugging it into another display? CheersDave --- On Sat, 30/7/11, Jock Webb wrote: From: Jock Webb Subject: [Maced] Flickering projector To: "Macs in Education" Received: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 10:18 PM In a general sense, why would an IWB projector flicker (like the refresh rate is wrong). It is a fairly new Epson short throw. Seems OK with the teacher's Macbook, but the ACER Travel Mate it is sometimes connected to flickers. No improvement by changing refresh rates or resolution. Welcome any reports of similar events. 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