From rblit at iinet.net.au  Tue Nov  1 09:36:20 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:36:20 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule
Message-ID: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>

Hi MACEDers
I am about to upgrade my old G (home) Wireless Router to an N one.
Have been looking at Netgear DGN2200.
BUT - now considering an Apple Time Capsule instead with the added benefit of wireless backups.

Anyone using Time Capsule as their wireless router?
Any comments appreciated please?

ta
blitto


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From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Tue Nov  1 09:45:29 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Parker mike)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:45:29 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule
In-Reply-To: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
References: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
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Hi Rod,
I read an article a while back that mentioned that the 802.11n speed in the time capsule wasn't as fast as an airport extreme.  
I doubt you would notice though.

Mike


On 01/11/2011, at 9:36 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> I am about to upgrade my old G (home) Wireless Router to an N one.
> Have been looking at Netgear DGN2200.
> BUT - now considering an Apple Time Capsule instead with the added benefit of wireless backups.
> 
> Anyone using Time Capsule as their wireless router?
> Any comments appreciated please?
> 
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
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From glenryan at me.com  Tue Nov  1 18:24:49 2011
From: glenryan at me.com (Glen Ryan)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:24:49 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule
In-Reply-To: <29C1FA9A-2379-4198-BC53-08717A07C11F@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CAD5E996.168E%glenryan@me.com>

Go airport extreme and then add a USB drive to it. All users can see the
drive and backup.
Cheers
Glen

From:  Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
Reply-To:  <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Date:  Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:45:29 +1100
To:  <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Subject:  Re: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule

Hi Rod,
I read an article a while back that mentioned that the 802.11n speed in the
time capsule wasn't as fast as an airport extreme.
I doubt you would notice though.

Mike


On 01/11/2011, at 9:36 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> I am about to upgrade my old G (home) Wireless Router to an N one.
> Have been looking at Netgear DGN2200.
> BUT - now considering an Apple Time Capsule instead with the added benefit of
> wireless backups.
> 
> Anyone using Time Capsule as their wireless router?
> Any comments appreciated please?
> 
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au
>  http://web.me.com/blitto <http://web.mac.com/blitto>
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
> 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Tue Nov  1 19:08:59 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:08:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule
In-Reply-To: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
References: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <1320134939.76936.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Rod

Assuming your ADSL2 or whatever modem is working well, the time capsule just works so well backing up in the background.
I went the Netgear route at home, but wish I'd gone time capsule, which I use at work.
In real world use, the Time Capsule router should meet all your needs.

Cheers

Dave?


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From: Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au>
To: maced mailing list <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011 9:36 AM
Subject: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule


Hi MACEDers
I am about to upgrade my old G (home) Wireless Router to an N one.
Have been looking at?Netgear DGN2200.
BUT - now considering an Apple Time Capsule instead with the added benefit of wireless backups.

Anyone using Time Capsule as their wireless router?
Any comments appreciated please?

ta
blitto



Rod Blitvich?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .?
?0409 681 256 ?
?rblit at iinet.net.au?
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Tue Nov  1 19:24:47 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 01:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] Little Changes I notice
In-Reply-To: <1320134939.76936.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
	<1320134939.76936.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1320135887.99418.YahooMailNeo@web112611.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Since we adopted a BYOT model at Broulee, as I wander in and out of the classrooms, I notice a few subtle changes.
A strange laptop here and there, a few iPod touches, a few kids accessing the internet via smartphones, all under teacher direction.
Be interesting to see what it looks like after next Christmas! :)

I would urge schools to give it a go.
While I was in England, Tim Ennion showed me around Noadswood High School.
They had set up a "radio" station that the students run accessible over wi-fi.
Guess what the kid's do with their smartphones at lunchtime?

Mal Lee talks about the power in the kids's pockets and the under utilised resource of ?home technology.

And thanks to the brilliant Apps and iOS5, as usual, Apple leads the way.
iPod, iPad, iPhone....iLearning!

Cheers
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Tue Nov  1 21:48:35 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:48:35 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Little Changes I notice
In-Reply-To: <1320135887.99418.YahooMailNeo@web112611.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
	<1320134939.76936.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<1320135887.99418.YahooMailNeo@web112611.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFW-vb66qg7t2FP6Wv_+dwst=kwg3rHGnUFXzkEbpfg7Y1rCTg@mail.gmail.com>

yes this is brilliant Dave. I just want to see kids learning like this and
doing this stuff. We are hopefully going back to NZ for the summer(here)
and as half the family are in Australia we thought we would spend august
there. I would love to come and see some of the schools I read about on
this list serve.
Mark

On 1 November 2011 12:24, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Since we adopted a BYOT model at Broulee, as I wander in and out of the
> classrooms, I notice a few subtle changes.
> A strange laptop here and there, a few iPod touches, a few kids accessing
> the internet via smartphones, all under teacher direction.
> Be interesting to see what it looks like after next Christmas! :)
>
> I would urge schools to give it a go.
> While I was in England, Tim Ennion showed me around Noadswood High School.
> They had set up a "radio" station that the students run accessible over
> wi-fi.
> Guess what the kid's do with their smartphones at lunchtime?
>
> Mal Lee talks about the power in the kids's pockets and the under utilised
> resource of  home technology.
>
> And thanks to the brilliant Apps and iOS5, as usual, Apple leads the way.
> iPod, iPad, iPhone....iLearning!
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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>
>


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From fscully3 at bigpond.com  Tue Nov  1 22:38:22 2011
From: fscully3 at bigpond.com (Ian Greig)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:38:22 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
Message-ID: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>

I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?

Ian Greig
Monaro High


From g.constanti at optusnet.com.au  Tue Nov  1 22:46:58 2011
From: g.constanti at optusnet.com.au (Georgia Constanti)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:46:58 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <9F51CC3E-0266-4A3D-B957-F753AA706230@optusnet.com.au>

The best option for what? Depends on your purpose. 

Cheers

Georgia Constanti 
Priority Schools Program Consultant
Sydney Region Arncliffe Office
Ph: 9582 2833 Mob: 0401841015

LONG LIVE LEARNING.  

Sent from my iPhone. 

On 01/11/2011, at 10:38 PM, Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
> 
> Ian Greig
> Monaro High
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From fscully3 at bigpond.com  Tue Nov  1 23:13:20 2011
From: fscully3 at bigpond.com (Ian Greig)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:13:20 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <9F51CC3E-0266-4A3D-B957-F753AA706230@optusnet.com.au>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<9F51CC3E-0266-4A3D-B957-F753AA706230@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <2FF0BBAF-D195-484C-8C47-47015D8C6911@bigpond.com>

Fair question. It's a request from our Japanese teacher. I think he wants the students to create some basic animations and the like using Japanese   - from what I can gather

On 01/11/2011, at 22:46, Georgia Constanti <g.constanti at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> The best option for what? Depends on your purpose. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Georgia Constanti 
> Priority Schools Program Consultant
> Sydney Region Arncliffe Office
> Ph: 9582 2833 Mob: 0401841015
> 
> LONG LIVE LEARNING.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. 
> 
> On 01/11/2011, at 10:38 PM, Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
>> 
>> Ian Greig
>> Monaro High
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
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From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Nov  2 00:00:05 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:00:05 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <07C56CEC-49FB-4C98-ABE7-85FEB8524D11@mac.com>

I love scratch as it is
A. Free
B it is easy to learn and to understand 
C. It has the ability to interact with hardware like pico board and the kinnect

From what you've said I think there are better applications out there (flash comes to mind)

We use scratch in year 9 and 10 programming,

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

On 01/11/2011, at 9:38 PM, Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
> 
> Ian Greig
> Monaro High
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From matt at skoss.org  Wed Nov  2 05:36:25 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 05:06:25 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <2FF0BBAF-D195-484C-8C47-47015D8C6911@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<9F51CC3E-0266-4A3D-B957-F753AA706230@optusnet.com.au>
	<2FF0BBAF-D195-484C-8C47-47015D8C6911@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <3A472A13-25E1-4165-88F5-66D9377EFC42@skoss.org>

Scratch - Highly recommended. It has some huge possibilities for kids to explore ideas in a very creative interdisciplinary way.

It is backed by a worldwide community online.

Regards, Matt.


On 01/11/2011, at 10:43 PM, Ian Greig wrote:

> Fair question. It's a request from our Japanese teacher. I think he wants the students to create some basic animations and the like using Japanese   - from what I can gather
> 
> On 01/11/2011, at 22:46, Georgia Constanti <g.constanti at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> The best option for what? Depends on your purpose. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Georgia Constanti 
>> Priority Schools Program Consultant
>> Sydney Region Arncliffe Office
>> Ph: 9582 2833 Mob: 0401841015
>> 
>> LONG LIVE LEARNING.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone. 
>> 
>> On 01/11/2011, at 10:38 PM, Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
>>> 
>>> Ian Greig
>>> Monaro High
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
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From larrytay97 at bigpond.com  Wed Nov  2 07:48:53 2011
From: larrytay97 at bigpond.com (Larry Taylor)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:48:53 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>

I think Scratch is far and away the best option around for learning basic object oriented programming and uses script blocks that click into place.

Because of this it is easy to get a successful result. Add to this the ability to change the script as it is running means that students can see what happens when they do so.

The results can be viewed locally or uploaded to the Scratch website.

Because the code is readily available under a free licence from the project, at one stage I investigated setting it up on our own server so that students could upload to our own version of the Scratch site and as long as you call it something other than Scratch and use a different logo, they are happy to have you do that.

It can also be used for basic animation and has the added advantage of allowing to choose from a range of language options, so that students could program with blocks which are in Japanese for example.

Larry Taylor


On 01/11/2011, at 9:38 PM, Ian Greig wrote:

> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
> 
> Ian Greig
> Monaro High
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Nov  2 09:10:25 2011
From: Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au (Simshauser, Michael)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 22:10:25 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>

Alice is another good option as well. Check out alice.org, or for getting more girls interested in programming, Storytelling Alice http://www.alice.org/kelleher/storytelling/ . The main thing I like about either app is that they are free and cross-platform. Both big winners for me. :)
Michael 

-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Larry Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 7:49 AM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] Scratch?

I think Scratch is far and away the best option around for learning basic object oriented programming and uses script blocks that click into place.

Because of this it is easy to get a successful result. Add to this the ability to change the script as it is running means that students can see what happens when they do so.

The results can be viewed locally or uploaded to the Scratch website.

Because the code is readily available under a free licence from the project, at one stage I investigated setting it up on our own server so that students could upload to our own version of the Scratch site and as long as you call it something other than Scratch and use a different logo, they are happy to have you do that.

It can also be used for basic animation and has the added advantage of allowing to choose from a range of language options, so that students could program with blocks which are in Japanese for example.

Larry Taylor


On 01/11/2011, at 9:38 PM, Ian Greig wrote:

> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
> 
> Ian Greig
> Monaro High
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


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From g.constanti at optusnet.com.au  Wed Nov  2 09:33:18 2011
From: g.constanti at optusnet.com.au (Georgia Constanti)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:33:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
	<5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <60C4ECCA-E6DF-4083-A716-3795253390C9@optusnet.com.au>

If your purpose is the story telling and not the programming you could try goAnimate or pixton both allow free online accounts.

Cheers,

Georgia. 

--
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Priority Schools Program Consultant

Sydney Region Arncliffe Office
Mob: 0401 841 015  Tel: 61-2-9582 2833

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On 02/11/2011, at 9:10 AM, "Simshauser, Michael" <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Alice is another good option as well. Check out alice.org, or for getting more girls interested in programming, Storytelling Alice http://www.alice.org/kelleher/storytelling/ . The main thing I like about either app is that they are free and cross-platform. Both big winners for me. :)
> Michael 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Larry Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 7:49 AM
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject: Re: [Maced] Scratch?
> 
> I think Scratch is far and away the best option around for learning basic object oriented programming and uses script blocks that click into place.
> 
> Because of this it is easy to get a successful result. Add to this the ability to change the script as it is running means that students can see what happens when they do so.
> 
> The results can be viewed locally or uploaded to the Scratch website.
> 
> Because the code is readily available under a free licence from the project, at one stage I investigated setting it up on our own server so that students could upload to our own version of the Scratch site and as long as you call it something other than Scratch and use a different logo, they are happy to have you do that.
> 
> It can also be used for basic animation and has the added advantage of allowing to choose from a range of language options, so that students could program with blocks which are in Japanese for example.
> 
> Larry Taylor
> 
> 
> On 01/11/2011, at 9:38 PM, Ian Greig wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
>> 
>> Ian Greig
>> Monaro High
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From rblit at iiNet.net.au  Wed Nov  2 09:45:14 2011
From: rblit at iiNet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:45:14 +0800
Subject: [Maced] School tech directors expect iPads to increase
Message-ID: <0E6BCF62-A64C-426D-AD4C-71858DC1536E@iiNet.net.au>

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/31/school-tech-directors-expect-ipads-to-increase/




Rod Blitvich 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Nov  2 11:27:06 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <1320193626.9862.YahooMailNeo@web112607.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We use Scratch with Year 5 and 6.
The students have fun and have created some great programs.


________________________________
From: Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?

I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?

Ian Greig
Monaro High

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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Nov  2 11:28:07 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] Scratch?
In-Reply-To: <2FF0BBAF-D195-484C-8C47-47015D8C6911@bigpond.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<9F51CC3E-0266-4A3D-B957-F753AA706230@optusnet.com.au>
	<2FF0BBAF-D195-484C-8C47-47015D8C6911@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <1320193687.17642.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sounds like that teacher is switched on! :)


________________________________
From: Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com>
To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Maced] Scratch?

Fair question. It's a request from our Japanese teacher. I think he wants the students to create some basic animations and the like using Japanese?  - from what I can gather

On 01/11/2011, at 22:46, Georgia Constanti <g.constanti at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> The best option for what? Depends on your purpose. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Georgia Constanti 
> Priority Schools Program Consultant
> Sydney Region Arncliffe Office
> Ph: 9582 2833 Mob: 0401841015
> 
> LONG LIVE LEARNING.? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone. 
> 
> On 01/11/2011, at 10:38 PM, Ian Greig <fscully3 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering what people thought of the program "scratch" . Is it the best option ?
>> 
>> Ian Greig
>> Monaro High
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From emos.at.ophir at gmail.com  Wed Nov  2 14:57:34 2011
From: emos.at.ophir at gmail.com (Rob Emerson)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:57:34 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Xserve Power Supply - solved!
Message-ID: <CAD2=2QXRusPKyEwzP2LE4vtMYySyMjGjT3m3aSn+GvUR2MTeKg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all who offered help with our recent problem. Xserve is up
and running again. Thank you Mike Parker!
Cheers, Rob E. Calare PS NSW


From rblit at iinet.net.au  Wed Nov  2 20:05:55 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:05:55 +0800
Subject: [Maced] THANKS Re:  Router vs Time Capsule
In-Reply-To: <1320134939.76936.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <0A1F7C1F-CC3A-47F9-A64A-5B2D774386BB@iinet.net.au>
	<1320134939.76936.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <094078F9-49A7-4C1F-ACEA-E143B1B7B59D@iinet.net.au>

Thanks to Dave, Glen, Mike & Harry
cheers
blitto



 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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 rblit at iinet.net.au 
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A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?


On 01/11/2011, at 4:08 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote:

> Hi Rod
> 
> Assuming your ADSL2 or whatever modem is working well, the time capsule just works so well backing up in the background.
> I went the Netgear route at home, but wish I'd gone time capsule, which I use at work.
> In real world use, the Time Capsule router should meet all your needs.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave 
> 
> From: Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au>
> To: maced mailing list <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011 9:36 AM
> Subject: [Maced] Router vs Time Capsule
> 
> Hi MACEDers
> I am about to upgrade my old G (home) Wireless Router to an N one.
> Have been looking at Netgear DGN2200.
> BUT - now considering an Apple Time Capsule instead with the added benefit of wireless backups.
> 
> Anyone using Time Capsule as their wireless router?
> Any comments appreciated please?
> 
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
> 
> 
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Wed Nov  2 20:50:53 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:50:53 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Mac Server config
Message-ID: <CAFW-vb7-dTEMnA-0inL1P_=oYXHbszGtA5_RD-OOsVCeY=FX2g@mail.gmail.com>

Help me someone ... we have the Apple Techs coming in tomorrow to configure
the Lion Mac Mini server. I know this has an iOS component but do i really
have to collect all the iPads and iPods back in for them.

Mark

-- 
Mark Stone
GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310
Dubai
United Arab Emirates
Tel:  +971 4 288 6499
Fax: +971 4 288 6490

*www.royaldubaischool.com*
*www.twitter.com/gemsrds*

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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Wed Nov  2 23:13:02 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:13:02 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Dark side. helpless colleague
Message-ID: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@[10.0.0.4]>

CAn any of you super dual platform skilled guys tell me if there is 
an equivalent to target boot in XP? A colleagues laptop got knocked 
of the teacher's desk. It seems like graphisc setup or screen 
connections might be damaged.  If it was a Mac i'd do the target boot 
and see if I can find the drive, but I'm not sure if anything even 
vaguely like that is possible.
Cheers
Jock


From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Nov  2 23:22:20 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:22:20 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Dark side. helpless colleague
In-Reply-To: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@[10.0.0.4]>
References: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@[10.0.0.4]>
Message-ID: <EAA72C87-9D5C-4532-BF13-BF52C4AA21A6@mac.com>

Hi Jock. Are you trying to get it boot from a particular drive?

Cold boot the machine.

 During the bios screen press F4 or F8. (some machines are different I think)

You'll get to a set up screen where you'll be able to set the boot up options / order

Let me know how you go. I have some very knowledgable year 12's who could Skype in if you'd like

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

On 02/11/2011, at 10:13 PM, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> CAn any of you super dual platform skilled guys tell me if there is an equivalent to target boot in XP? A colleagues laptop got knocked of the teacher's desk. It seems like graphisc setup or screen connections might be damaged.  If it was a Mac i'd do the target boot and see if I can find the drive, but I'm not sure if anything even vaguely like that is possible.
> Cheers
> Jock
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From garry at gstokes.org  Wed Nov  2 23:51:57 2011
From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:51:57 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Dark side. helpless colleague
In-Reply-To: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@10.0.0.4>
References: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@10.0.0.4>
Message-ID: <CANpmFVvj0j8Ldbq66p4FM+Yt7qL7Ze1UeybKYrnJT-=cdK+C4w@mail.gmail.com>

So it starts but the screen does not display?
VGA connector ?
Connect to an external monitor
You may have to google the keys to make it output to an external screen though

On 2 November 2011 23:13, Jock Webb <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
> CAn any of you super dual platform skilled guys tell me if there is an
> equivalent to target boot in XP? A colleagues laptop got knocked of the
> teacher's desk. It seems like graphisc setup or screen connections might be
> damaged. ?If it was a Mac i'd do the target boot and see if I can find the
> drive, but I'm not sure if anything even vaguely like that is possible.
> Cheers
> Jock
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>


From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 02:53:49 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:53:49 +0400
Subject: [Maced] iOS devices and Lion Server
Message-ID: <143D5331-84BA-4ABD-8799-41DDA6E91FA6@gmail.com>

Hi Everyone ?

Sorry to ask some question that are probably a bit obvious but I need a quick answer ?
Can someone succinctly tell how important and useful the iOS part of Lion server is. I nearly lost it with the Windows tech - I didn't, but it came close. 

So ? what does the iOS component do? What are the benefits? Can it be configured without the devices present? I really thought that these devices were standalone and you synced them with your mac when you needed to. 

I'm all ears ? has anyone done this??

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Nov  3 05:34:14 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 05:34:14 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Dark side. helpless colleague
In-Reply-To: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@[10.0.0.4]>
References: <a06240805cad6e3434b5e@[10.0.0.4]>
Message-ID: <AFA40E4A-9A93-4757-A01B-1791AB6BB5CA@det.nsw.edu.au>

Remove the hdd and plug it into another machine. Probably SATA so it should just plug straight in. If you don't want to open the case of the undamaged machine, there are plenty of adapters that will allow it to be connected to USB

Greg


On 02/11/2011, at 11:13 PM, "Jock Webb" <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> CAn any of you super dual platform skilled guys tell me if there is 
> an equivalent to target boot in XP? A colleagues laptop got knocked 
> of the teacher's desk. It seems like graphisc setup or screen 
> connections might be damaged.  If it was a Mac i'd do the target boot 
> and see if I can find the drive, but I'm not sure if anything even 
> vaguely like that is possible.
> Cheers
> Jock
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
**********************************************************************
This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
privileged information or confidential information or both. If you
are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender.
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Nov  3 07:54:16 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] iOS devices and Lion Server
In-Reply-To: <143D5331-84BA-4ABD-8799-41DDA6E91FA6@gmail.com>
References: <143D5331-84BA-4ABD-8799-41DDA6E91FA6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1320267256.11342.YahooMailNeo@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Mark

iOS can be used to push configuration files (the stuff in settings) to the iPads.
But it doesn't do Apps. ?And I get the impression it's something for the server knowledgeable only.
You probably don't need it.
You are correct about iPads/iPods being standalone. We only connect them to a computer to upgrade from iOS4 to iOS5.

HTH
Dave



________________________________
From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 2:53 AM
Subject: [Maced] iOS devices and Lion Server


Hi Everyone ?

Sorry to ask some question that are probably a bit obvious but I need a quick answer ?
Can someone succinctly tell how important and useful the iOS part of Lion server is. I nearly lost it with the Windows tech - I didn't, but it came close.?

So ? what does the iOS component do? What are the benefits? Can it be configured without the devices present? I really thought that these devices were standalone and you synced them with your mac when you needed to.?

I'm all ears ? has anyone done this??

Mark


Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email: ????????m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website: ???http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter: ?????http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog: ??????????http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.


???
 

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From mallee at mac.com  Thu Nov  3 08:09:11 2011
From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:09:11 +1100
Subject: [Maced] BYOT case studies
Message-ID: <F39BFAC1-1A93-445F-8C33-116BD90F8477@mac.com>

BYOT moves?

Dear colleagues

By now you will have picked up the fact that Martin and I have embarked on writing a short publication for ACER Press on BYOT - the rationale for, its implications for your school, your teaching and collaboration with your homes, and a guide to its successful implementation

Have any of you made any moves on the implementation of a ?bring your own technology? (BYOT) ? or what is also referred to as a BYO/BYOC/BYOD  or student owned devices - model or are in the throes of contemplating such an introduction?

While we know of the moves at schools like Assissi College (Gold Coast) and Broulee PS (NSW) do you know of any other schools employing or soon to employ the approach.

Conscious of the ?tsunami like? developments globally in this area and the importance of integrating the shift with the desired whole school development Martin Levins and I are planning on writing a series of articles as well as the book.

The plan is to draw upon the experiences of the pathfinding schools here, NZ, the US and the UK in the preparation of that material.

We would thus love to hear from any of you making the move and to get word on the schools worth following up.

You can either email Martin - mlevins at as.edu.au - or myself at mallee at mac.com

Kind regards

Mal Lee and Martin Levins


Author/educational consultant
PO Box 5010 Broulee
NSW  2537 Australia
http://malleehome.com
Ph - + 61 2 44717 947




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From matt at skoss.org  Thu Nov  3 07:59:03 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:29:03 +1030
Subject: [Maced] BYOT case studies
In-Reply-To: <F39BFAC1-1A93-445F-8C33-116BD90F8477@mac.com>
References: <F39BFAC1-1A93-445F-8C33-116BD90F8477@mac.com>
Message-ID: <E847CF15-0991-41A6-9E75-1C53B366DB6D@skoss.org>

G'day Martin & Mal,

Have rolled out a few hundred of the base level MacBooks at Centralian Senior College (Alice Springs), we have a smattering of kids and staff who bring their own devices, from PCs, Macs, iPads, iPhones, iPod Touches, Android devices, etc and our general (unstated) policy is to support them putting them on the network and making use of as many services as possible. At neighbouring schools, there seems to be active distrust of any non-school supplied device...for staff and students.

A few observations...

1.  Kids with Android or iPhones soon figured out that they could do what they like in terms of web usage by using phone tethering. It also means that there is no casual monitoring of these kids, many of whom need a significant amount of guidance in terms of their learning. Which begs the question...do we require kids to be 'on the grid' for most of the time, and using the tethering only when they need to research typically blocked sites like YouTube, FaceBook, etal?

2.  Kids who have declined the DER laptops miss out on the school-wide license such as Adobe CS, MicroSlug Office, etc. Is there some middle ground whereby these kids could legally have school software loaded on their device?

3.  Loose licensing around iOS devices...if I buy an app for my iPad that is useful for Science or Maths instruction, can I legally use my Apple ID to load it on a kids iPad to use in my class? Typically, I don't ask questions I may not like the answer to!

4.  BYOD...Casual uptake is how I see it playing out in many jurisdictions, particularly if parents/kids want a little more than the base level device offered under schemes such as DER. I bought my 3 kids a MacBook Pro, because of inertia surrounding DER purchases, due to NT DET proclivities. 

My $0.02 worth, for the moment.

Regards,

Matt Skoss.
0418-624 631
matt at skoss.org



On 03/11/2011, at 7:39 AM, Mal Lee wrote:

> BYOT moves?
> 
> Dear colleagues
> 
> By now you will have picked up the fact that Martin and I have embarked on writing a short publication for ACER Press on BYOT - the rationale for, its implications for your school, your teaching and collaboration with your homes, and a guide to its successful implementation
> 
> Have any of you made any moves on the implementation of a ?bring your own technology? (BYOT) ? or what is also referred to as a BYO/BYOC/BYOD  or student owned devices - model or are in the throes of contemplating such an introduction?
> 
> While we know of the moves at schools like Assissi College (Gold Coast) and Broulee PS (NSW) do you know of any other schools employing or soon to employ the approach.
> 
> Conscious of the ?tsunami like? developments globally in this area and the importance of integrating the shift with the desired whole school development Martin Levins and I are planning on writing a series of articles as well as the book.
> 
> The plan is to draw upon the experiences of the pathfinding schools here, NZ, the US and the UK in the preparation of that material.
> 
> We would thus love to hear from any of you making the move and to get word on the schools worth following up.
> 
> You can either email Martin - mlevins at as.edu.au - or myself at mallee at mac.com
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Mal Lee and Martin Levins
> 
> 
> Author/educational consultant
> PO Box 5010 Broulee
> NSW  2537 Australia
> http://malleehome.com
> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Thu Nov  3 11:06:40 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:06:40 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Mac Server config
In-Reply-To: <CAFW-vb7-dTEMnA-0inL1P_=oYXHbszGtA5_RD-OOsVCeY=FX2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFW-vb7-dTEMnA-0inL1P_=oYXHbszGtA5_RD-OOsVCeY=FX2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2C09F127-1DD4-4632-B272-92A3DDD10558@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>

You can send an email with the link to the students to enroll the devices themselves.

Sam.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 02/11/2011, at 8:50 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Help me someone ... we have the Apple Techs coming in tomorrow to configure the Lion Mac Mini server. I know this has an iOS component but do i really have to collect all the iPads and iPods back in for them. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> -- 
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>  
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>  
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> 
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Nov  3 16:22:09 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:22:09 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Review of ICT support in schools
Message-ID: <DB0116E3-FC9D-4B09-AD78-02F9C21520E6@det.nsw.edu.au>

This was in SchoolBiz today:

Review of ICT support for schools
The Department is currently undertaking a review of the ICT support that is provided to schools, regional and state offices.

The aim of the review is to identify the level of support that is currently in place, discover any gaps that may exist, explore alternative options to address the needs of the schools portfolio and make a recommendation for a new ICT support model.

A steering committee has been formed including representation from the Secondary Principals? Council, the Primary Principals? Association, Regional and Institute Directors, Regional ICT and the Schools Portfolio.

UXC Consulting has been appointed to undertake this work during term 4 2011.

UXC Consulting will be conducting a wide range of interviews and surveys over the next month. The success of the review will be dependent upon the quality and quantity of responses.

Further updates on the progress and the findings will be published as the review continues.

I thank you for your support and assistance with this review.

Yours sincerely


Gregory Prior
Deputy director-general, schools


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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Nov  3 16:45:30 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:45:30 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Review of ICT support in schools
In-Reply-To: <308CBEEBD2F64129993B8689940515AC@smtp.gmail.com>
References: <308CBEEBD2F64129993B8689940515AC@smtp.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F8BF7C46-E587-4501-B908-F1FC47FE306A@det.nsw.edu.au>

Anybody been getting these in response to posts to MacEd?

I presume it is spam?

Greg



On 03/11/2011, at 4:41 PM, <sayelo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm driving right now and a voice just read me your message out loud.
> I?m using an app called Text?nDrive to avoid touching my phone while driving and thought you should install it to...
> It's Free, with this link: www.textndrive.com/free
> 

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From matt at skoss.org  Thu Nov  3 17:41:58 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:11:58 +1030
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
Message-ID: <603215D6-D6A4-4095-A7EC-84EF012390B0@skoss.org>

I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.

An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.

What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.

When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any permissions.

Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on iPad.

Regards, Matt.




From matt at skoss.org  Thu Nov  3 18:30:24 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:30:24 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Printing PDF'd webpages from Google Chrome - only in black
	and white
Message-ID: <6B3E8AD4-0814-44BD-B358-DAD58521A329@skoss.org>

Full colour in Safari...is there any logical reason?

Regards, Matt.


From esheerin at gmail.com  Thu Nov  3 20:27:17 2011
From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 20:27:17 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
In-Reply-To: <603215D6-D6A4-4095-A7EC-84EF012390B0@skoss.org>
References: <603215D6-D6A4-4095-A7EC-84EF012390B0@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <00a901cc9a0a$ca6a8230$5f3f8690$@gmail.com>

I had some issues and finished up reinstalling iTunes - worked wonders
Ellen

-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
Behalf Of Matt Skoss
Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 5:42 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes

I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show
up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.

An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.

What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different
cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.

When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts
immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any
permissions.

Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on
iPad.

Regards, Matt.



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From matt at skoss.org  Thu Nov  3 21:18:52 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:18:52 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
In-Reply-To: <00a901cc9a0a$ca6a8230$5f3f8690$@gmail.com>
References: <603215D6-D6A4-4095-A7EC-84EF012390B0@skoss.org>
	<00a901cc9a0a$ca6a8230$5f3f8690$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31AB7DD1-1597-4A61-9A90-867379951F55@skoss.org>

I've just zeroed my hard drive and reinstalled Snow Leopard...because of an iTunes issue from before. It worked for a while, and seems to have corrupted. 

Will give your suggestion another crack.

Thanks Ellen.

Regards, Matt.


On 03/11/2011, at 8:27 PM, Ellen Sheerin wrote:

> I had some issues and finished up reinstalling iTunes - worked wonders
> Ellen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
> Behalf Of Matt Skoss
> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 5:42 PM
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
> 
> I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show
> up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.
> 
> An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.
> 
> What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different
> cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.
> 
> When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts
> immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any
> permissions.
> 
> Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on
> iPad.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From anthonyc5 at optusnet.com.au  Thu Nov  3 22:55:48 2011
From: anthonyc5 at optusnet.com.au (Anthony Citino)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:55:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
In-Reply-To: <31AB7DD1-1597-4A61-9A90-867379951F55@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>

I installed ios5 on my daughters ipod. Worst thing as her games won't start
up. Only native apple apps do. Spoke with Apple support and they are
stabbing in the dark.

How does one console a 10 yo who is obsessed (bloody technology!! Tic) with
levels on some of the games? If I wipe them she will lose them.

Bring on 5.1... Hopefully it will help before I resort to wiping the apps.
Before someone mentions the backup, I think the files are corrupt.


Anthony citino


> From: Matt Skoss <matt at skoss.org>
> Reply-To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:18:52 +1100
> To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
> 
> I've just zeroed my hard drive and reinstalled Snow Leopard...because of an
> iTunes issue from before. It worked for a while, and seems to have corrupted.
> 
> Will give your suggestion another crack.
> 
> Thanks Ellen.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> 
> 
> On 03/11/2011, at 8:27 PM, Ellen Sheerin wrote:
> 
>> I had some issues and finished up reinstalling iTunes - worked wonders
>> Ellen
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
>> Behalf Of Matt Skoss
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 5:42 PM
>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>> 
>> I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show
>> up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.
>> 
>> What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different
>> cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.
>> 
>> When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts
>> immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any
>> permissions.
>> 
>> Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on
>> iPad.
>> 
>> Regards, Matt.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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>> 
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Fri Nov  4 06:02:10 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 06:02:10 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
In-Reply-To: <CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
References: <CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <964F6D20-1C65-4E94-88D4-B3ED4ABC10BF@det.nsw.edu.au>

Can you restore to the backup prior to the update? Nothing more important than an inconsolable daughter.

I feel your pain. I once wiped out entire generations of Sims when I upgraded my daughters computer. ("before I do the upgrade, you DO have a backup of everything?" "Yes, Dad")


On 03/11/2011, at 10:55 PM, Anthony Citino wrote:

> I installed ios5 on my daughters ipod. Worst thing as her games won't start
> up. Only native apple apps do. Spoke with Apple support and they are
> stabbing in the dark.
> 
> How does one console a 10 yo who is obsessed (bloody technology!! Tic) with
> levels on some of the games? If I wipe them she will lose them.
> 
> Bring on 5.1... Hopefully it will help before I resort to wiping the apps.
> Before someone mentions the backup, I think the files are corrupt.
> 
> 
> Anthony citino
> 
> 
>> From: Matt Skoss <matt at skoss.org>
>> Reply-To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:18:52 +1100
>> To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>> 
>> I've just zeroed my hard drive and reinstalled Snow Leopard...because of an
>> iTunes issue from before. It worked for a while, and seems to have corrupted.
>> 
>> Will give your suggestion another crack.
>> 
>> Thanks Ellen.
>> 
>> Regards, Matt.
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/11/2011, at 8:27 PM, Ellen Sheerin wrote:
>> 
>>> I had some issues and finished up reinstalling iTunes - worked wonders
>>> Ellen
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
>>> Behalf Of Matt Skoss
>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 5:42 PM
>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>>> 
>>> I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show
>>> up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.
>>> 
>>> What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different
>>> cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.
>>> 
>>> When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts
>>> immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any
>>> permissions.
>>> 
>>> Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on
>>> iPad.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Matt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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>> 
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From matt at skoss.org  Fri Nov  4 06:28:44 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 06:28:44 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
In-Reply-To: <964F6D20-1C65-4E94-88D4-B3ED4ABC10BF@det.nsw.edu.au>
References: <CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
	<964F6D20-1C65-4E94-88D4-B3ED4ABC10BF@det.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <B52DF8CB-21F5-468F-8492-042A257EE747@skoss.org>

I'll try that...thanks Greg & Anthony.

M.


On 04/11/2011, at 6:02 AM, Norris, Greg wrote:

> Can you restore to the backup prior to the update? Nothing more important than an inconsolable daughter.
> 
> I feel your pain. I once wiped out entire generations of Sims when I upgraded my daughters computer. ("before I do the upgrade, you DO have a backup of everything?" "Yes, Dad")
> 
> 
> On 03/11/2011, at 10:55 PM, Anthony Citino wrote:
> 
>> I installed ios5 on my daughters ipod. Worst thing as her games won't start
>> up. Only native apple apps do. Spoke with Apple support and they are
>> stabbing in the dark.
>> 
>> How does one console a 10 yo who is obsessed (bloody technology!! Tic) with
>> levels on some of the games? If I wipe them she will lose them.
>> 
>> Bring on 5.1... Hopefully it will help before I resort to wiping the apps.
>> Before someone mentions the backup, I think the files are corrupt.
>> 
>> 
>> Anthony citino
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Matt Skoss <matt at skoss.org>
>>> Reply-To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:18:52 +1100
>>> To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>>> 
>>> I've just zeroed my hard drive and reinstalled Snow Leopard...because of an
>>> iTunes issue from before. It worked for a while, and seems to have corrupted.
>>> 
>>> Will give your suggestion another crack.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ellen.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Matt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/11/2011, at 8:27 PM, Ellen Sheerin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I had some issues and finished up reinstalling iTunes - worked wonders
>>>> Ellen
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
>>>> Behalf Of Matt Skoss
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 5:42 PM
>>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>>>> 
>>>> I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show
>>>> up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.
>>>> 
>>>> An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.
>>>> 
>>>> What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different
>>>> cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.
>>>> 
>>>> When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts
>>>> immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any
>>>> permissions.
>>>> 
>>>> Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on
>>>> iPad.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Matt.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Fri Nov  4 20:19:11 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maced] iOS5 Battery drain
In-Reply-To: <CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
References: <31AB7DD1-1597-4A61-9A90-867379951F55@skoss.org>
	<CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <1320398351.48971.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>




http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/apple-admits-ios-5-bugs-can-drain-battery/2011/11/03/gIQATd1QiM_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech
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From kooper.trooper at gmail.com  Fri Nov  4 21:45:32 2011
From: kooper.trooper at gmail.com (Joel Cooper)
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:45:32 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apple Learning Tour
Message-ID: <CADA0D7C.1D318%kooper.trooper@gmail.com>

Just a quick note, that Apple is putting on a half day seminar for school
staff to attend. They say that both Mac and iPad content will be covered.
More info and registrations found here:
https://edseminars.apple.com//event/B73Gb-2y7a9

Dates are:

Melbourne
Tuesday, November 8 1:00PM to 5:00PM

Sydney
Thursday, November 10 1:00PM to 5:00PM

Brisbane
Monday, November 14 1:00PM to 5:00PM

Perth
Wednesday, November 16 1:00PM to 5:00PM

Cheers,

Joel Cooper
Computers Now

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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Sun Nov  6 11:56:02 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 08:56:02 +0800
Subject: [Maced] purcasing Lion
Message-ID: <677A7E69-79E2-4364-A5E0-393227B1E4AB@iinet.net.au>

Dear MACEDers 
please can you tell me if i can purchase one copy of Lion on the app store and:

a) am i then entitled to install it on any mac i own?
 license agreement info 2B part i says "... to download 1 copy of the apple software... directly on each apple computer... that you own"

b) Does it download as an installer in a form that i can copy to my other home mac and install with?

ta
Blitto
Rod Blitvich 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
 http://web.me.com/blitto



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From emos.at.ophir at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 13:17:48 2011
From: emos.at.ophir at gmail.com (Rob Emerson)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:17:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] purcasing Lion
In-Reply-To: <677A7E69-79E2-4364-A5E0-393227B1E4AB@iinet.net.au>
References: <677A7E69-79E2-4364-A5E0-393227B1E4AB@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <CAD2=2QXv4SPzEPfL7L0wHCvuUd8JyH_HnjsZnVvQRC1qzvm_=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Blitto,

This page at wazmac.com has the info you need:

http://bit.ly/qaqDoQ

Cheers, Rob E.

On 6 November 2011 11:56, Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Dear MACEDers
> please can you tell me if i can purchase one copy of Lion on the app store
> and:
>
> a) am i then entitled to install it on any mac i own?
>  license agreement info 2B part i says "... to download 1 copy of the
> apple software... directly on each apple computer... that you own"
>
> b) Does it download as an installer in a form that i can copy to my other
> home mac and install with?
>
> ta
> Blitto
> *Rod Blitvich*
> *. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .*
> * *0409 681 256
>  *rblit at iinet.net.au*
>  http://web.me.com/blitto <http://web.mac.com/blitto>
>
>
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Sun Nov  6 18:13:37 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 15:13:37 +0800
Subject: [Maced] purcasing Lion
In-Reply-To: <CAD2=2QXv4SPzEPfL7L0wHCvuUd8JyH_HnjsZnVvQRC1qzvm_=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677A7E69-79E2-4364-A5E0-393227B1E4AB@iinet.net.au>
	<CAD2=2QXv4SPzEPfL7L0wHCvuUd8JyH_HnjsZnVvQRC1qzvm_=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CE8A09CC-0ED8-4C99-8A95-D62708014F56@iinet.net.au>

thanks Rod & Waz

 Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
 http://web.me.com/blitto

A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?


On 06/11/2011, at 10:17 AM, Rob Emerson wrote:

> Hi Blitto,
> 
> This page at wazmac.com has the info you need:
> 
> http://bit.ly/qaqDoQ
> 
> Cheers, Rob E.
> 
> On 6 November 2011 11:56, Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Dear MACEDers 
> please can you tell me if i can purchase one copy of Lion on the app store and:
> 
> a) am i then entitled to install it on any mac i own?
>  license agreement info 2B part i says "... to download 1 copy of the apple software... directly on each apple computer... that you own"
> 
> b) Does it download as an installer in a form that i can copy to my other home mac and install with?
> 
> ta
> Blitto
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Sun Nov  6 20:08:10 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 20:08:10 +1100
Subject: [Maced] purcasing Lion
In-Reply-To: <677A7E69-79E2-4364-A5E0-393227B1E4AB@iinet.net.au>
References: <677A7E69-79E2-4364-A5E0-393227B1E4AB@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <3B01825D-F0CD-4D67-8683-90FE028C83EA@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Rod,

Yes you can then upgrade any Snow Leopard Mac you own personally.  The way you are meant to do it is to re-download it on each of the Macs through the App Store as you need to use the same Apple ID.

You can, however, grab a copy of the DMG before the system deletes it.  When you download it on one machine, it downloads the "Install Mac OS Lion.app" into the Applications folder, if you right click on this App and select to Show Package Contents, inside the Contents folder and the Shared Support folder there is the InstallESD.dmg which can be copied to another Mac or even burnt to a DVD so you can do the 'normal' boot of DVD and upgrade.  This DVD is then like a normal retail full version - so you can format and install Lion directly.  I've tested this - it doesn't check for a copy of Snow Leopard already installed or the Apple ID.

Hope this helps,
Sam.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 06/11/2011, at 11:56 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Dear MACEDers 
> please can you tell me if i can purchase one copy of Lion on the app store and:
> 
> a) am i then entitled to install it on any mac i own?
>  license agreement info 2B part i says "... to download 1 copy of the apple software... directly on each apple computer... that you own"
> 
> b) Does it download as an installer in a form that i can copy to my other home mac and install with?
> 
> ta
> Blitto
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Sun Nov  6 21:18:04 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (rblit at iinet.net.au)
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:18:04 +0000
Subject: [Maced] purcasing Lion
Message-ID: <49768.1320574684@iinet.net.au>

Thanks Sam
blitto


On Sun Nov  6 17:08 , Sam Osborne <ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> sent:

>Hi Rod,
>
>Yes you can then upgrade any Snow Leopard Mac you own personally.  The way you are meant to do it is to re-download it on 
each of the Macs through the App Store as you need to use the same Apple ID.
>
>You can, however, grab a copy of the DMG before the system deletes it.  When you download it on one machine, it downloads 
the "Install Mac OS Lion.app" into the Applications folder, if you right click on this App and select to Show Package Contents, 
inside the Contents folder and the Shared Support folder there is the InstallESD.dmg which can be copied to another Mac or 
even burnt to a DVD so you can do the 'normal' boot of DVD and upgrade.  This DVD is then like a normal retail full version - so 
you can format and install Lion directly.  I've tested this - it doesn't check for a copy of Snow Leopard already installed or the 
Apple ID.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Sam.
>_________________________
>Sam Osborne
>IT Technician
>MacKillop College
>t : 02 6338 2200
>www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
>
>On 06/11/2011, at 11:56 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
>
>> Dear MACEDers 
>> please can you tell me if i can purchase one copy of Lion on the app store and:
>> 
>> a) am i then entitled to install it on any mac i own?
>>  license agreement info 2B part i says "... to download 1 copy of the apple software... directly on each apple computer... that 
you own"
>> 
>> b) Does it download as an installer in a form that i can copy to my other home mac and install with?
>> 
>> ta
>> Blitto
>> Rod Blitvich 
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>>  http://web.me.com/blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Maced mailing list
>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>)




From lists4scott at barnham.com.au  Sun Nov  6 22:50:06 2011
From: lists4scott at barnham.com.au (Scott Barnham)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:50:06 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Mac OS X Server Course
In-Reply-To: <F8BF7C46-E587-4501-B908-F1FC47FE306A@det.nsw.edu.au>
References: <308CBEEBD2F64129993B8689940515AC@smtp.gmail.com>
	<F8BF7C46-E587-4501-B908-F1FC47FE306A@det.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <8A3B3986-3A6A-4A04-ADF7-1AD4404818A7@barnham.com.au>


http://www.compnow.com.au/html/training/course_info/CompNow-Training-OS-X-Server-Outline-dt.pdf

From matt at skoss.org  Mon Nov  7 23:32:13 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:02:13 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Microsoft Office - keeps crashing
Message-ID: <8A809D17-145C-4C07-95E7-D9FF685595EB@skoss.org>

I get this error message. I've deleted Microsoft Office, and re-installed it. 

Keep getting the same error message.

Regards, Matt.

Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000a, 0x000000000003f000
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bac0d4 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4004
1   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43babee1 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3505
2   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43babf6e WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3646
3   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bac1c0 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4240
4   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc03fa FindFirstFileW + 2748
5   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc05f4 FindFirstFileW + 3254
6   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc357d CreateMutexExW + 136
7   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc374e CreateMutexExA + 98
8   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc3830 CreateMutexA + 45
9   com.microsoft.csi_framework   	0x4550c03c Csi::BeginFinishCsiClientLib() + 524480
10  com.microsoft.csi_framework   	0x4550ddc2 Csi::BeginFinishCsiClientLib() + 532038
11  dyld                          	0x8fe0ed69 ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 235
12  dyld                          	0x8fe0d31a ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 246
13  dyld                          	0x8fe0d2be ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 154
14  dyld                          	0x8fe0d2be ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 154
15  dyld                          	0x8fe0d3cd ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 61
16  dyld                          	0x8fe024a9 dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 134
17  dyld                          	0x8fe0794e dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**) + 4189
18  dyld                          	0x8fe018b1 dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long) + 779
19  dyld                          	0x8fe01057 _dyld_start + 39

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dda382 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98ddaa9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9f59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9cfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd95c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd99a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd95c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x0003f000  ebx: 0x00000008  ecx: 0xbfffd37c  edx: 0x98db6a16
edi: 0x0020bb58  esi: 0x0020b9e8  ebp: 0xbfffd3c8  esp: 0xbfffd380
 ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010213  eip: 0x43bac0d4   cs: 0x00000017
 ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x0003f000

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0x9a8ba000 - 0x9a957fe3  com.apple.LaunchServices 362.3 (362.3) <15B47388-16C8-97DA-EEBB-1709E136169E> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices
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From matt at skoss.org  Mon Nov  7 23:32:17 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:02:17 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Microsoft Office - keeps crashing
Message-ID: <84B43FC3-CD3B-418F-9610-120A46E4E1A9@skoss.org>

I get this error message. I've deleted Microsoft Office, and re-installed it. 

Keep getting the same error message.

Regards, Matt.

Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000a, 0x000000000003f000
Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bac0d4 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4004
1   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43babee1 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3505
2   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43babf6e WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3646
3   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bac1c0 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4240
4   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc03fa FindFirstFileW + 2748
5   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc05f4 FindFirstFileW + 3254
6   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc357d CreateMutexExW + 136
7   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc374e CreateMutexExA + 98
8   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc3830 CreateMutexA + 45
9   com.microsoft.csi_framework   	0x4550c03c Csi::BeginFinishCsiClientLib() + 524480
10  com.microsoft.csi_framework   	0x4550ddc2 Csi::BeginFinishCsiClientLib() + 532038
11  dyld                          	0x8fe0ed69 ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 235
12  dyld                          	0x8fe0d31a ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 246
13  dyld                          	0x8fe0d2be ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 154
14  dyld                          	0x8fe0d2be ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 154
15  dyld                          	0x8fe0d3cd ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 61
16  dyld                          	0x8fe024a9 dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 134
17  dyld                          	0x8fe0794e dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**) + 4189
18  dyld                          	0x8fe018b1 dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long) + 779
19  dyld                          	0x8fe01057 _dyld_start + 39

Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dda382 kevent + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98ddaa9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9f59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9cfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd95c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd99a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd95c6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x0003f000  ebx: 0x00000008  ecx: 0xbfffd37c  edx: 0x98db6a16
edi: 0x0020bb58  esi: 0x0020b9e8  ebp: 0xbfffd3c8  esp: 0xbfffd380
ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010213  eip: 0x43bac0d4   cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x0003f000

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Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
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Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868
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USB Device: Samsung S2 Portable, 0x04e8  (Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.), 0x1f0a, 0x26200000 / 3
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Tue Nov  8 09:16:39 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:16:39 +0800
Subject: [Maced] MacBook Pro Vs MacBook Air?
Message-ID: <E0D65A5E-AB33-47E7-A00A-D7980CC03BF7@iinet.net.au>

Dear MACEDers
I need to decide on a laptop  model for a class of 32 special (extension) 1:1 Year 8s next year.
(not quite ready for iPad {but VERY close})

MacBook Pro13 inch vs MacBook Air 11 inch

What will they be doing with them.
Carry them to and from school every day
A little iWeb
A little iDVD
the usual web stuff, 
Pages/Word
Comic Life - a little
Numbers/Excel
Using photobooth camera for stills and movie
iMovie
iCal
the usual iphoto & itunes
Garageband

MACBOOK AIR: http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html AIR = 11 Inch Air 4GB RAM, 126 GB flash memory/solid state hard drive, FIVE hrs battery, no optical drive, weight = 1.08 kg
vs
MACBOOK PRO: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ PRO = 13 inch MacBook pro, 500 GB Hard drive, 4 GB RAM, optical drive, SEVEN hrs battery, weight = 2.04 kg

For me the macbook air has a big case in favour. Smaller and lighter by a whole kilogram for kids backpacks, faster boot times etc because of solid state HD, no moving parts no spinning hard drive should equate to greater reliability.
Downside is - 1) no cd/dvd drive BUT - i can buy a couple of small portable ones for about $90 each, 2) only 5 hrs battery versus 7.But  Didn't the older macbooks only have three hours battery??? and we survived with them? The macbook pro is more powerful, more HD storage etc.
HOWEVER - the smaller, lighter form factor coupled with the no spinning hard drive- greater reliability makes me want to go with the Air. One kilogram less in their back-pack, and a smaller unit which fits more easily in back-pacl/school bag.

What do you guys think?
Your advice appreciated please
ta
blitto


Rod Blitvich 
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 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
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From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Tue Nov  8 09:22:47 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Parker mike)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:22:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] MacBook Pro Vs MacBook Air?
In-Reply-To: <E0D65A5E-AB33-47E7-A00A-D7980CC03BF7@iinet.net.au>
References: <E0D65A5E-AB33-47E7-A00A-D7980CC03BF7@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <45EDA634-E0DC-43B7-918D-ADB57F6D50D6@kambala.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Rod,

The new 11 inch macbook air doesn't come with either iWeb or iDVD.  So you will have to install this separately.  You may find this to be the case on the new macbook pro (I can't confirm that though)

I think iDVD will winge if you don't have a dvd player plugged in (but I'm not positive).

Mike

On 08/11/2011, at 9:16 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Dear MACEDers
> I need to decide on a laptop  model for a class of 32 special (extension) 1:1 Year 8s next year.
> (not quite ready for iPad {but VERY close})
> 
> MacBook Pro13 inch vs MacBook Air 11 inch
> 
> What will they be doing with them.
> Carry them to and from school every day
> A little iWeb
> A little iDVD
> the usual web stuff, 
> Pages/Word
> Comic Life - a little
> Numbers/Excel
> Using photobooth camera for stills and movie
> iMovie
> iCal
> the usual iphoto & itunes
> Garageband
> 
> MACBOOK AIR: http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html AIR = 11 Inch Air 4GB RAM, 126 GB flash memory/solid state hard drive, FIVE hrs battery, no optical drive, weight = 1.08 kg
> vs
> MACBOOK PRO: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ PRO = 13 inch MacBook pro, 500 GB Hard drive, 4 GB RAM, optical drive, SEVEN hrs battery, weight = 2.04 kg
> 
> For me the macbook air has a big case in favour. Smaller and lighter by a whole kilogram for kids backpacks, faster boot times etc because of solid state HD, no moving parts no spinning hard drive should equate to greater reliability.
> Downside is - 1) no cd/dvd drive BUT - i can buy a couple of small portable ones for about $90 each, 2) only 5 hrs battery versus 7.But  Didn't the older macbooks only have three hours battery??? and we survived with them? The macbook pro is more powerful, more HD storage etc.
> HOWEVER - the smaller, lighter form factor coupled with the no spinning hard drive- greater reliability makes me want to go with the Air. One kilogram less in their back-pack, and a smaller unit which fits more easily in back-pacl/school bag.
> 
> What do you guys think?
> Your advice appreciated please
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
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From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au  Tue Nov  8 09:46:55 2011
From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones)
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:16:55 +1030
Subject: [Maced] MacBook Pro Vs MacBook Air?
In-Reply-To: <E0D65A5E-AB33-47E7-A00A-D7980CC03BF7@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <CADEA237.8039%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>

We will be offering three models in Jan. 2012: Air 64, Air 128 and Pro, with
the Air 64 being the one I am pushing as the default for our year 7s. For
all the reasons you gave, I think the Air is the way to go. While it's
currently a bit expensive, as SD becomes more common, prices should fall.
For the Air 64, the October National K-12 pricing I have been supplied, is
the same as the retail price on the Apple Store. Presumably Apple will be
reducing the  K-12 price soon?
Regards,
David
Scotch Adelaide

From:  Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au>
Reply-To:  MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Date:  Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:16:39 +0800
To:  MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Subject:  [Maced] MacBook Pro Vs MacBook Air?

Dear MACEDers
I need to decide on a laptop  model for a class of 32 special (extension)
1:1 Year 8s next year.
(not quite ready for iPad {but VERY close})

MacBook Pro13 inch vs MacBook Air 11 inch

What will they be doing with them.
* Carry them to and from school every day
* A little iWeb
* A little iDVD
* the usual web stuff,
* Pages/Word
* Comic Life - a little
* Numbers/Excel
* Using photobooth camera for stills and movie
* iMovie
* iCal
* the usual iphoto & itunes
* Garageband

MACBOOK AIR: http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html AIR
<http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html>  = 11 Inch Air 4GB RAM, 126 GB
flash memory/solid state hard drive, FIVE hrs battery, no optical drive,
weight = 1.08 kg
vs
MACBOOK PRO: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ PRO
<http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/>  = 13 inch MacBook pro, 500 GB Hard
drive, 4 GB RAM, optical drive, SEVEN hrs battery, weight = 2.04 kg

For me the macbook air has a big case in favour. Smaller and lighter by a
whole kilogram for kids backpacks, faster boot times etc because of solid
state HD, no moving parts no spinning hard drive should equate to greater
reliability.
Downside is - 1) no cd/dvd drive BUT - i can buy a couple of small portable
ones for about $90 each, 2) only 5 hrs battery versus 7.But  Didn't the
older macbooks only have three hours battery??? and we survived with them?
The macbook pro is more powerful, more HD storage etc.
HOWEVER - the smaller, lighter form factor coupled with the no spinning hard
drive- greater reliability makes me want to go with the Air. One kilogram
less in their back-pack, and a smaller unit which fits more easily in
back-pacl/school bag.

What do you guys think?
Your advice appreciated please
ta
blitto


Rod Blitvich 
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From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Tue Nov  8 12:41:43 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Parker mike)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:41:43 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Microsoft Office - keeps crashing
In-Reply-To: <8A809D17-145C-4C07-95E7-D9FF685595EB@skoss.org>
References: <8A809D17-145C-4C07-95E7-D9FF685595EB@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <D3ED2187-C611-4205-893A-9B56C0F9681F@kambala.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Matt,
Have you removed these files after closing office?  Don't do this if you are using Entourage or Outlook, or you may delete your email.

In your Library/Application Support/ folder  
delete the Microsoft folder

In your Library/Cache  folder
delete all folders that start with com.microsoft

In your Library/Preferences
delete the Microsoft folder

In your Documents folder
delete the Microsoft User Data folder   (I think this is where the email is stored, but I'm not positive)

Getting rid of all of those will probably sort your issue out.  (some of this may be overkill.)

Mike


On 07/11/2011, at 11:32 PM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> I get this error message. I've deleted Microsoft Office, and re-installed it. 
> 
> Keep getting the same error message.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> 
> Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000a, 0x000000000003f000
> Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 
> Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bac0d4 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4004
> 1   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43babee1 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3505
> 2   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43babf6e WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3646
> 3   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bac1c0 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4240
> 4   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc03fa FindFirstFileW + 2748
> 5   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc05f4 FindFirstFileW + 3254
> 6   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc357d CreateMutexExW + 136
> 7   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc374e CreateMutexExA + 98
> 8   com.microsoft.netlib          	0x43bc3830 CreateMutexA + 45
> 9   com.microsoft.csi_framework   	0x4550c03c Csi::BeginFinishCsiClientLib() + 524480
> 10  com.microsoft.csi_framework   	0x4550ddc2 Csi::BeginFinishCsiClientLib() + 532038
> 11  dyld                          	0x8fe0ed69 ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 235
> 12  dyld                          	0x8fe0d31a ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 246
> 13  dyld                          	0x8fe0d2be ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 154
> 14  dyld                          	0x8fe0d2be ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int) + 154
> 15  dyld                          	0x8fe0d3cd ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 61
> 16  dyld                          	0x8fe024a9 dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 134
> 17  dyld                          	0x8fe0794e dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**) + 4189
> 18  dyld                          	0x8fe018b1 dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long) + 779
> 19  dyld                          	0x8fe01057 _dyld_start + 39
> 
> Thread 1:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
> 0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dda382 kevent + 10
> 1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98ddaa9c _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215
> 2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9f59 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163
> 3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9cfe _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 240
> 4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9781 _pthread_wqthread + 390
> 5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd95c6 start_wqthread + 30
> 
> Thread 2:
> 0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd9412 __workq_kernreturn + 10
> 1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd99a8 _pthread_wqthread + 941
> 2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x98dd95c6 start_wqthread + 30
> 
> Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
> eax: 0x0003f000  ebx: 0x00000008  ecx: 0xbfffd37c  edx: 0x98db6a16
> edi: 0x0020bb58  esi: 0x0020b9e8  ebp: 0xbfffd3c8  esp: 0xbfffd380
> ss: 0x0000001f  efl: 0x00010213  eip: 0x43bac0d4   cs: 0x00000017
> ds: 0x0000001f   es: 0x0000001f   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x00000037
> cr2: 0x0003f000
> 
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> 0x98db3000 - 0x98f5aff7  libSystem.B.dylib 125.2.11 (compatibility 1.0.0) <2DCD13E3-1BD1-6F25-119A-3863A3848B90> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> 0x98f5b000 - 0x9903bfe7  com.apple.vImage 4.1 (4.1) <D029C515-08E1-93A6-3705-DD062A3A672C> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vImage.framework/Versions/A/vImage
> 0x9903c000 - 0x990a6fe7  libstdc++.6.dylib 7.9.0 (compatibility 7.0.0) <411D87F4-B7E1-44EB-F201-F8B4F9227213> /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
> 0x9954e000 - 0x99983ff7  libLAPACK.dylib 219.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <5E2D2283-57DE-9A49-1DB0-CD027FEFA6C2> /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/libLAPACK.dylib
> 0x99984000 - 0x999a3ff7  com.apple.CoreVideo 1.6.2 (45.6) <EB53CAA4-5EE2-C356-A954-5775F7DDD493> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/A/CoreVideo
> 0x999ac000 - 0x999f9feb  com.apple.DirectoryService.PasswordServerFramework 6.1 (6.1) <00A1A83B-0E7D-D0F4-A643-8C5675C2BB21> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PasswordServer.framework/Versions/A/PasswordServer
> 0x999fa000 - 0x99a01ff3  com.apple.print.framework.Print 6.1 (237.1) <F5AAE53D-5530-9004-A9E3-2C1690C5328E> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
> 0x99b67000 - 0x99c23fff  com.apple.ColorSync 4.6.6 (4.6.6) <7CD8B191-039A-02C3-EA5E-4194EC59995B> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ColorSync.framework/Versions/A/ColorSync
> 0x99d93000 - 0x99d93ff7  com.apple.vecLib 3.6 (vecLib 3.6) <FF4DC8B6-0AB0-DEE8-ADA8-7B57645A1F36> /System/Library/Frameworks/vecLib.framework/Versions/A/vecLib
> 0x99daa000 - 0x99e0bfe7  com.apple.CoreText 151.10 (???) <5C2DEFBE-D54B-4DC7-D456-9ED02880BE98> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CoreText.framework/Versions/A/CoreText
> 0x99e0c000 - 0x99e52ff7  libauto.dylib ??? (???) <29422A70-87CF-10E2-CE59-FEE1234CFAAE> /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
> 0x99e53000 - 0x99e57ff7  libGIF.dylib ??? (???) <2123645B-AC89-C4E2-8757-85834CAE3DD2> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libGIF.dylib
> 0x99e58000 - 0x99e5aff7  libRadiance.dylib ??? (???) <5920EB69-8D7F-5EFD-70AD-590FCB5C9E6C> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libRadiance.dylib
> 0x99ea4000 - 0x99ea4ff7  liblangid.dylib ??? (???) <B99607FC-5646-32C8-2C16-AFB5EA9097C2> /usr/lib/liblangid.dylib
> 0x9a01f000 - 0x9a4daff7  com.apple.VideoToolbox 0.484.60 (484.60) <B53299EC-E30F-EC04-779D-29B7113CC14A> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VideoToolbox.framework/Versions/A/VideoToolbox
> 0x9a4db000 - 0x9a594fe7  libsqlite3.dylib 9.6.0 (compatibility 9.0.0) <52438E77-55D1-C231-1936-76F1369518E4> /usr/lib/libsqlite3.dylib
> 0x9a595000 - 0x9a59aff7  com.apple.OpenDirectory 10.6 (10.6) <0603680A-A002-D294-DE83-0D028C6BE884> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenDirectory.framework/Versions/A/OpenDirectory
> 0x9a59b000 - 0x9a5ccff7  libGLImage.dylib ??? (???) <0EE86397-A867-0BBA-E5B1-B800E43FC5CF> /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLImage.dylib
> 0x9a5cd000 - 0x9a6cffe7  libcrypto.0.9.8.dylib 0.9.8 (compatibility 0.9.8) <015563C4-81E2-8C8A-82AC-31B38D904A42> /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.8.dylib
> 0x9a750000 - 0x9a7f8ffb  com.apple.QD 3.36 (???) <FA2785A4-BB69-DCB4-3BA3-7C89A82CAB41> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/QD.framework/Versions/A/QD
> 0x9a8b3000 - 0x9a8b9fff  com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.4 (91) <2438AF5D-067B-B9FD-1248-2C9987F360BA> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
> 0x9a8ba000 - 0x9a957fe3  com.apple.LaunchServices 362.3 (362.3) <15B47388-16C8-97DA-EEBB-1709E136169E> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/LaunchServices
> 0x9a958000 - 0x9aa86fe7  com.apple.CoreData 102.1 (251) <87FE6861-F2D6-773D-ED45-345272E56463> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData
> 0x9ab05000 - 0x9abb2fe7  libobjc.A.dylib 227.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <9F8413A6-736D-37D9-8EB3-7986D4699957> /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
> 0xffff0000 - 0xffff1fff  libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) <2DCD13E3-1BD1-6F25-119A-3863A3848B90> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
> 
> Model: MacBookPro5,3, BootROM MBP53.00AC.B03, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.8 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.48f2
> Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB
> Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, PCI, 256 MB
> Memory Module: global_name
> AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.42.4)
> Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 19 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
> Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
> Serial ATA Device: ST9500420ASG, 465.76 GB
> Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868
> USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8507, 0x24400000 / 2
> USB Device: Samsung S2 Portable, 0x04e8  (Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.), 0x1f0a, 0x26200000 / 3
> USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8403, 0x26500000 / 2
> USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x06100000 / 2
> USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8213, 0x06110000 / 3
> USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x0236, 0x04600000 / 3
> USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x04500000 / 2
> 
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From matt at skoss.org  Wed Nov  9 09:09:07 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:39:07 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Microsoft Office - keeps crashing
In-Reply-To: <D3ED2187-C611-4205-893A-9B56C0F9681F@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
References: <8A809D17-145C-4C07-95E7-D9FF685595EB@skoss.org>
	<D3ED2187-C611-4205-893A-9B56C0F9681F@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <16365D9C-DA7F-4960-A614-5A3D99286473@skoss.org>

Mike - Same problem...did all these steps.

Office apps opened once (ie. creating a new document), then I tried to open an existing document, and the problem re-appeared. Doesn't matter whether it is Word, Excel or PowerPoint.

Any more ideas? I'm wondering if there is a rogue corrupted file lurking somewhere, which is created on the fly on installation.

Or can a faulty couple of blocks on a hard drive create this problem?


Regards, Matt.


On 08/11/2011, at 11:11 AM, Parker mike wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> Have you removed these files after closing office?  Don't do this if you are using Entourage or Outlook, or you may delete your email.
> 
> In your Library/Application Support/ folder
> delete the Microsoft folder
> 
> In your Library/Cache  folder
> delete all folders that start with com.microsoft
> 
> In your Library/Preferences
> delete the Microsoft folder
> 
> In your Documents folder
> delete the Microsoft User Data folder   (I think this is where the email is stored, but I'm not positive)
> 
> Getting rid of all of those will probably sort your issue out.  (some of this may be overkill.)
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On 07/11/2011, at 11:32 PM, Matt Skoss wrote:
> 
>> I get this error message. I've deleted Microsoft Office, and re-installed it.
>> 
>> Keep getting the same error message.
>> 
>> Regards, Matt.
>> 
>> Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000a, 0x000000000003f000
>> Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>> 
>> Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>> 0   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43bac0d4 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4004
>> 1   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43babee1 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3505
>> 2   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43babf6e WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3646
>> 3   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43bac1c0 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4240
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From Daryl.Wykes at stpatricks.tas.edu.au  Wed Nov  9 09:19:09 2011
From: Daryl.Wykes at stpatricks.tas.edu.au (Daryl Wykes)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:19:09 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Microsoft Office - keeps crashing
In-Reply-To: <16365D9C-DA7F-4960-A614-5A3D99286473@skoss.org>
References: <8A809D17-145C-4C07-95E7-D9FF685595EB@skoss.org>
	<D3ED2187-C611-4205-893A-9B56C0F9681F@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
	<16365D9C-DA7F-4960-A614-5A3D99286473@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <F8458E0E-A955-45CD-B8FE-CB8F13E9E233@stpatricks.tas.edu.au>

Hi Matt,

I would also recommend deleting any com.microsoft plist file in /Users/Matt/Library/Preferences/ 

This often helps restore office to a working state, these files are also not deleted by office when its uninstalled so they could be causing the problem.

> Mike - Same problem...did all these steps.
> 
> Office apps opened once (ie. creating a new document), then I tried to open an existing document, and the problem re-appeared. Doesn't matter whether it is Word, Excel or PowerPoint.
> 
> Any more ideas? I'm wondering if there is a rogue corrupted file lurking somewhere, which is created on the fly on installation.
> 
> Or can a faulty couple of blocks on a hard drive create this problem?
> 
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> 
> 
> On 08/11/2011, at 11:11 AM, Parker mike wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matt,
>> Have you removed these files after closing office?  Don't do this if you are using Entourage or Outlook, or you may delete your email.
>> 
>> In your Library/Application Support/ folder
>> delete the Microsoft folder
>> 
>> In your Library/Cache  folder
>> delete all folders that start with com.microsoft
>> 
>> In your Library/Preferences
>> delete the Microsoft folder
>> 
>> In your Documents folder
>> delete the Microsoft User Data folder   (I think this is where the email is stored, but I'm not positive)
>> 
>> Getting rid of all of those will probably sort your issue out.  (some of this may be overkill.)
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/11/2011, at 11:32 PM, Matt Skoss wrote:
>> 
>>> I get this error message. I've deleted Microsoft Office, and re-installed it.
>>> 
>>> Keep getting the same error message.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Matt.
>>> 
>>> Exception Codes: 0x000000000000000a, 0x000000000003f000
>>> Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>>> 
>>> Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>>> 0   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43bac0d4 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4004
>>> 1   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43babee1 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3505
>>> 2   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43babf6e WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 3646
>>> 3   com.microsoft.netlib              0x43bac1c0 WlmGetTempPathWithPathStyleW + 4240
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


Regards

Daryl Wykes
IT Technician
St Patrick's College - Launceston, Tasmania

www.stpatricks.tas.edu.au	|  Ph: 03 6341 9988	  |  Mobile: 0400 526 104




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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Wed Nov  9 18:51:11 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:51:11 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Creating Bulk Apple IDs for iPad Deployment
Message-ID: <2B518CE7-10DA-4138-8D7C-B408679A332C@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>

Hi All,

For those who have or are thinking of deploying iPads 1:1 we found the best way (until the Volume Purchase Program comes to Australia) for the school to keep the licenses of purchased Apps and to abide as close as possible to the iTunes Store Terms and Conditions is to create an Apple ID for each iPad, redeem an iTunes Store Card onto each account and provide the email/password to the student.

This is a laborious process you can imagine for 100+ accounts, especially when Apple blocks you from creating more than 3 accounts in a 24 hour period from the same public IP Address...

So I made an Applescript that imports a csv file and runs through the registration process every 8 1/2 hours.

If anyone is interested you can check it out here http://mkc.nsw.edu.au/groups/ipadapps/wiki/474f3/Script_to_create_Apple_IDs.html

Hope this helps others,
Sam.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au



From rblit at iinet.net.au  Thu Nov 10 09:40:39 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:40:39 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Laptop Program effect on Literacy
Message-ID: <70E886EA-1DA4-4816-9AB1-5755254E6ED3@iinet.net.au>

Please can anyone point me to some stats on the effect of laptop programs on student literacy rate?
Some studies seem to say "no effect"

Just having to deal with an apparent anti-laptop literacy expert at my school.
Showing graphs of only small improvement in literacy of a lowish ability group who had laptops dumped on them last year.
Even said "kids who have laptops dont read"!!!
ta
blitto



Rod Blitvich 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
 http://web.me.com/blitto



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From mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au  Thu Nov 10 09:57:27 2011
From: mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au (Martin COOMBE)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:27:27 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Laptop Program effect on Literacy
In-Reply-To: <70E886EA-1DA4-4816-9AB1-5755254E6ED3@iinet.net.au>
References: <70E886EA-1DA4-4816-9AB1-5755254E6ED3@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <fc.000f4cdf00cdea983b9aca00db7b4162.cdeab7@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Have a quick look through http://www.dern.org/
Cheers
Marty Coombe
maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>Please can anyone point me to some stats on the effect of laptop programs
>on student literacy rate?
>Some studies seem to say "no effect"
>
>
>Just having to deal with an apparent anti-laptop literacy expert at my
>school.
>Showing graphs of only small improvement in literacy of a lowish ability
>group who had laptops dumped on them last year.
>Even said "kids who have laptops dont read"!!!
>ta
>blitto
>
>
>
>
>
>Rod Blitvich?
>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .?
>?0409 681 256 ?
>?[ mailto:rblit at iinet.net.au ]rblit at iinet.net.au?
>?[ http://web.mac.com/blitto ]http://web.me.com/blitto
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From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Thu Nov 10 12:40:49 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:40:49 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Laptop Program effect on Literacy
In-Reply-To: <70E886EA-1DA4-4816-9AB1-5755254E6ED3@iinet.net.au>
References: <70E886EA-1DA4-4816-9AB1-5755254E6ED3@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <EEAF6A53-250A-45EC-A8B4-E25F139E06EE@helena.wa.edu.au>

Hi Rod,

I know this bloke, isn't he the same one that was saying we can't introduce calculators and had to stick with slide-rules?

Did calculators improve maths literacy? 

Not really but calculators did however change forever the way we work, the way we teach/learn maths and like a computer we will never go back. 

In education we are always behind the real world in so many ways and computers and other mobile devices will change the way we live and yet this guy wants education to stay in the 1900s. 

Tell him Amazon sold more eBooks than real books. Tell him in the not too distant future our exams will be done on computers. Tell him that we are preparing the current generations for the future not his past.

People who are afraid of change are insecure but also lazy. Keeping up to date with new trends, technologies and ideas takes a lot of work. He is not prepared to make this commitment.

Getting back to your original question however - below is an article that indicates that there is no discernible difference between reading with different media. However some interesting facts came out - see the bold sections.

                      Regards,
                      Eugene
                  

On 10/11/2011, at 6:40 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Please can anyone point me to some stats on the effect of laptop programs on student literacy rate?
> Some studies seem to say "no effect"
> 
> Just having to deal with an apparent anti-laptop literacy expert at my school.
> Showing graphs of only small improvement in literacy of a lowish ability group who had laptops dumped on them last year.
> Even said "kids who have laptops dont read"!!!
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 


READING A BOOK VERSUS A SCREEN: DIFFERENT READING DEVICES, DIFFERENT
MODES OF READING?

ScienceDaily (Oct. 20, 2011) ? A book or a screen ? which of these
two offers more reading comfort? There are no disadvantages to reading
from electronic reading devices compared with reading printed texts.

This is one of the results of the world's first reading study of its
kind undertaken by the Research Unit Media Convergence of Johannes
Gutenberg University Mainz (JGU) in cooperation with MVB Marketing-
und Verlagsservice des Buchhandels GmbH. "E-books and e-readers are
playing an increasingly important role on the worldwide book market.
However, readers in Germany are particularly skeptical when it comes
to e-books and electronic reading devices. The objective of the study
was to investigate whether there are reasons for this skepticism,"
says the initiator of the study, Professor Dr. Stephan F?ssel, chair
of the Gutenberg-Institute of Book Studies and spokesperson for the
Media Convergence Research Unit at Johannes Gutenberg University
Mainz. "This study provides us with a scientific basis for dispelling
the widespread misconception that reading from a screen has negative
effects," explains F?ssel. "There is no (reading) culture clash ?
whether it is analog or digital, reading remains the most important
cultural technology."

However, the result of the study stands in stark contrast with the
participants' subjective reaction. "Almost all of the participants
stated that they liked reading a printed book best. This was the
dominant subjective response, but it does not match the data obtained
from the study," specifies Professor Dr. Matthias Schlesewsky, Head of
the Research Group Neurocognition of Language Universals of the
Department of English and Linguistics at Johannes Gutenberg University
Mainz, who designed and conducted the study together with Professor
F?ssel. In fact, tablet PCs actually provide an advantage over e-ink
readers and the printed page that is not consciously perceivable: the
information is processed more easily when a tablet PC is employed.
Furthermore, while there were no differences between the three media
employed in terms of rates of reading by the younger participants, the
older participants exhibited faster reading times when using the
tablet PC.

Similarly, the participants' subjective perceptions did not match the
results of a comparison of e-ink readers and printed paper texts.
Almost all participants stated that reading from paper was more
comfortable than from an e-ink reader despite the fact that the study
actually showed that there was no difference in terms of reading
performance between reading from paper and from an e-ink reader. "We
have thus demonstrated that the subjective preference for the printed
book is not an indicator of how fast and how well the information is
processed," concludes Professor Schlesewsky.

The co-initiator and cooperating partner institution of the study is
MVB Marketing- und Verlagsservice des Buchhandels GmbH, operator of
the e-book platform libreka!. "We are pleased to have had the
opportunity to work with and support Mainz University in this
one-of-a-kind study. As a subsidiary of the German Publishers and
Booksellers Association (B?rsenverein des Deutschen Buchhandels
e.V.), we have established the prerequisites for publishing companies
and bookstores to adapt to the digital age by setting up the libreka!
platform. Shaping the market is important to us, and that also
includes understanding the readers' needs," states Ronald Schild, CEO
of MVB, explaining the reasons for the organization's participation in
the study.

The study analyzed the differences in reading from various kinds of
media (e-book, tablet PC, paper) in two sample groups, young and
elderly adults. Each participant read various texts with different
levels of complexity on an e-book reader (Kindle 3), on a tablet PC
(iPad), and on paper. The reading behavior and the participants'
corresponding neural processes were assessed by means of concurrent
measures of eye movements (eye tracking) and electrophysiological
brain activity (EEG). The criteria that were taken into account and
analyzed were changes in the theta frequency band power, reading
behavior, text comprehension, and information recall as well as the
participants' preferences for the respective medium.
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From Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au  Thu Nov 10 12:53:44 2011
From: Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au (Bryn Jones)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:53:44 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Bluetooth Internet on iPad
Message-ID: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>

Oh Wise Ones

Should it be possible to use an iPhone 3GS as a modem via Bluetooth
for an iPad 1

I run Bluetooth on both but they don't see each other.

Would it be any different with iPad2

Regards

Bryn

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From glenncw at westnet.com.au  Thu Nov 10 13:07:12 2011
From: glenncw at westnet.com.au (Glenn Wilson)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:07:12 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Bluetooth Internet on iPad
In-Reply-To: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31C44EE9-A64B-4404-82AF-ECF7ED2A853B@westnet.com.au>

Yes
Turn on personal hotspot on the 3GS make sure bluetooth is on
Turn on bluetooth on the iPad and connect the two
It should then work.
I believe some phone companies block it but I have had it working with my 3GS and iPad 1


Glenn Wilson
glenncw at westnet.com.au

==============================================================================
I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone.
My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.

Bjarne Stroustrup

On 10/11/2011, at 9:53 AM, Bryn Jones wrote:

> Oh Wise Ones
> 
> Should it be possible to use an iPhone 3GS as a modem via Bluetooth
> for an iPad 1
> 
> I run Bluetooth on both but they don't see each other.
> 
> Would it be any different with iPad2
> 
> Regards
> 
> Bryn
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> - Bryn Jones
> - Learnology Pty. Ltd.
> - Messages 086 267 8163
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au  Thu Nov 10 14:16:04 2011
From: Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au (Bryn Jones)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:16:04 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Bluetooth Internet on iPad
In-Reply-To: <31C44EE9-A64B-4404-82AF-ECF7ED2A853B@westnet.com.au>
References: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<31C44EE9-A64B-4404-82AF-ECF7ED2A853B@westnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAOngzJf1MV+d2xcZ8Fb2P2k0KpDhKY-UL_J8ienUoy4hjdMrPw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks

I just need to know it is possible. Mine won't connect so I must have a fault.

Bryn

On 10 November 2011 10:07, Glenn Wilson <glenncw at westnet.com.au> wrote:
> Yes
> Turn on personal hotspot on the 3GS make sure bluetooth is on
> Turn on bluetooth on the iPad and connect the two
> It should then work.
> I believe some phone companies block it but I have had it working with my 3GS and iPad 1
>
>
> Glenn Wilson
> glenncw at westnet.com.au
>
> ==============================================================================
> I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone.
> My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.
>
> Bjarne Stroustrup
>
> On 10/11/2011, at 9:53 AM, Bryn Jones wrote:
>
>> Oh Wise Ones
>>
>> Should it be possible to use an iPhone 3GS as a modem via Bluetooth
>> for an iPad 1
>>
>> I run Bluetooth on both but they don't see each other.
>>
>> Would it be any different with iPad2
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Bryn
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> - Bryn Jones
>> - Learnology Pty. Ltd.
>> - Messages 086 267 8163
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>



-- 
Regards

Bryn

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- Learnology Pty. Ltd.
- Messages 086 267 8163
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From kel at edugator.net.au  Thu Nov 10 15:41:15 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:41:15 +1100
Subject: [Maced] How do I video stream a presentation?
In-Reply-To: <5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
	<5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <20111110154115.67303ve7hr0f7280@webmail.netregistry.net>

A colleague is setting up a PL day and wants the main presentation to  
be video streamed to teachers in remote schools unable to attend in  
person.

He wants a fairly professional job - ie. better than webcam quality.

Where do we start with this?

Thanks

Kel



From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Nov 10 17:36:58 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:36:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Flash is an ex parrot!
In-Reply-To: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1320907018.13240.YahooMailNeo@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/11527125/adobe-pulls-plug-on-flash-for-mobile/
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From maestroec at gmail.com  Thu Nov 10 17:49:18 2011
From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:49:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Flash is an ex parrot!
In-Reply-To: <1320907018.13240.YahooMailNeo@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1320907018.13240.YahooMailNeo@web112605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAOz5zpxCrsEYLkfksgbacFp+m1ipfqz4N+-3gMA5dZdBCB4mgQ@mail.gmail.com>

I bet Steve is smiling from the iCloud :-)

"I told you so!"

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au>wrote:

>
> http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/11527125/adobe-pulls-plug-on-flash-for-mobile/
>
>
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From maestroec at gmail.com  Thu Nov 10 17:58:40 2011
From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:58:40 +1100
Subject: [Maced] How do I video stream a presentation?
In-Reply-To: <20111110154115.67303ve7hr0f7280@webmail.netregistry.net>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
	<5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
	<20111110154115.67303ve7hr0f7280@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <CAOz5zpyTfRUafgUCD+vpBq5cVPek4dzZW3tzeiKMHWeVnF7A-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Would something like justin.tv or upstream.tv fit the bill?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:

> A colleague is setting up a PL day and wants the main presentation to be
> video streamed to teachers in remote schools unable to attend in person.
>
> He wants a fairly professional job - ie. better than webcam quality.
>
> Where do we start with this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kel
>
>
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From maestroec at gmail.com  Thu Nov 10 18:00:40 2011
From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:00:40 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Bluetooth Internet on iPad
In-Reply-To: <CAOngzJf1MV+d2xcZ8Fb2P2k0KpDhKY-UL_J8ienUoy4hjdMrPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<31C44EE9-A64B-4404-82AF-ECF7ED2A853B@westnet.com.au>
	<CAOngzJf1MV+d2xcZ8Fb2P2k0KpDhKY-UL_J8ienUoy4hjdMrPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOz5zpybykLHSv++OY8X9X2uNq8Vc-M=bB5AEiOb=vkNV49FBQ@mail.gmail.com>

Are you able to do it through Wi-Fi instead?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Bryn Jones <Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au>wrote:

> Thanks
>
> I just need to know it is possible. Mine won't connect so I must have a
> fault.
>
> Bryn
>
> On 10 November 2011 10:07, Glenn Wilson <glenncw at westnet.com.au> wrote:
> > Yes
> > Turn on personal hotspot on the 3GS make sure bluetooth is on
> > Turn on bluetooth on the iPad and connect the two
> > It should then work.
> > I believe some phone companies block it but I have had it working with
> my 3GS and iPad 1
> >
> >
> > Glenn Wilson
> > glenncw at westnet.com.au
> >
> >
> ==============================================================================
> > I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my
> telephone.
> > My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.
> >
> > Bjarne Stroustrup
> >
> > On 10/11/2011, at 9:53 AM, Bryn Jones wrote:
> >
> >> Oh Wise Ones
> >>
> >> Should it be possible to use an iPhone 3GS as a modem via Bluetooth
> >> for an iPad 1
> >>
> >> I run Bluetooth on both but they don't see each other.
> >>
> >> Would it be any different with iPad2
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Bryn
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> - Bryn Jones
> >> - Learnology Pty. Ltd.
> >> - Messages 086 267 8163
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Maced mailing list
> >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Maced mailing list
> > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Bryn
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> - Bryn Jones
> - Learnology Pty. Ltd.
> - Messages 086 267 8163
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
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From Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au  Thu Nov 10 18:07:56 2011
From: Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au (Bryn Jones)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:07:56 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Bluetooth Internet on iPad
In-Reply-To: <CAOz5zpybykLHSv++OY8X9X2uNq8Vc-M=bB5AEiOb=vkNV49FBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOngzJdXf1c8kpPQ=S5hz=uMhKD37Uu3QkmiiHLGYzy9XwdcOA@mail.gmail.com>
	<31C44EE9-A64B-4404-82AF-ECF7ED2A853B@westnet.com.au>
	<CAOngzJf1MV+d2xcZ8Fb2P2k0KpDhKY-UL_J8ienUoy4hjdMrPw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAOz5zpybykLHSv++OY8X9X2uNq8Vc-M=bB5AEiOb=vkNV49FBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOngzJcXzBTfjPtwnpnsP49JaZAuOG2BH28za-OuvVxjwE73pA@mail.gmail.com>

Not with 3GS that is only iPhone 4

Bryn

On 10 November 2011 15:00, Elliott Chapman <maestroec at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you able to do it through Wi-Fi instead?
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Bryn Jones <Bryn.jones at learnology.com.au>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> I just need to know it is possible. Mine won't connect so I must have a
>> fault.
>>
>> Bryn
>>
>> On 10 November 2011 10:07, Glenn Wilson <glenncw at westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> > Yes
>> > Turn on personal hotspot on the 3GS make sure bluetooth is on
>> > Turn on bluetooth on the iPad and connect the two
>> > It should then work.
>> > I believe some phone companies block it but I have had it working with
>> > my 3GS and iPad 1
>> >
>> >
>> > Glenn Wilson
>> > glenncw at westnet.com.au
>> >
>> >
>> > ==============================================================================
>> > I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my
>> > telephone.
>> > My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.
>> >
>> > Bjarne Stroustrup
>> >
>> > On 10/11/2011, at 9:53 AM, Bryn Jones wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oh Wise Ones
>> >>
>> >> Should it be possible to use an iPhone 3GS as a modem via Bluetooth
>> >> for an iPad 1
>> >>
>> >> I run Bluetooth on both but they don't see each other.
>> >>
>> >> Would it be any different with iPad2
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Bryn
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> - Bryn Jones
>> >> - Learnology Pty. Ltd.
>> >> - Messages 086 267 8163
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Maced mailing list
>> >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Maced mailing list
>> > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Bryn
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> - Bryn Jones
>> - Learnology Pty. Ltd.
>> - Messages 086 267 8163
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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> elliott dot chapman at mac dot com
>
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From binnskg at pnc.com.au  Thu Nov 10 19:23:26 2011
From: binnskg at pnc.com.au (Karen Binns)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:23:26 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Laptops and Sport/excursions
Message-ID: <DAAEFC7E-542B-49B4-9F90-71FD4304B6BB@pnc.com.au>

Hi
We are embarking on a 1:1 laptop program in 2012 and the question has been raised re what happens with the laptop when the student goes to sport and does not return to school? Do we make it compulsory to leave the laptop in the locker overnight or do we let them take them to sport where the maybe left unsupervised next to the sporting field? 
Or where students come to school for the first 2 periods then leave on an excursion where the venue does not allow student bags inside?
What guidelines do schools have in place?

Regards
Karen Binns 

Sent from my iPhone

From mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au  Thu Nov 10 21:17:31 2011
From: mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au (Martin COOMBE)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:47:31 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Laptops and Sport/excursions
In-Reply-To: <DAAEFC7E-542B-49B4-9F90-71FD4304B6BB@pnc.com.au>
References: <DAAEFC7E-542B-49B4-9F90-71FD4304B6BB@pnc.com.au>
Message-ID: <fc.000f4cdf00ce093c3b9aca006c3d413c.ce093f@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Leave them in a locked locker, too risky to leave unattended!
cheers
Marty Coombe
maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>Hi
>We are embarking on a 1:1 laptop program in 2012 and the question has
>been raised re what happens with the laptop when the student goes to
>sport and does not return to school? Do we make it compulsory to leave
>the laptop in the locker overnight or do we let them take them to sport
>where the maybe left unsupervised next to the sporting field? 
>Or where students come to school for the first 2 periods then leave on an
>excursion where the venue does not allow student bags inside?
>What guidelines do schools have in place?
>
>Regards
>Karen Binns 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>_______________________________________________
>Maced mailing list
>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com  Thu Nov 10 23:17:34 2011
From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:17:34 +1100
Subject: [Maced] laptop trolleys.
Message-ID: <a06240800cae1710c1c05@[10.0.0.1]>

Need a reasonably mobile laptop trolley to deal with 15  netbooks. 
Anyone had a good experience?
Jock


From kristen.eisenberg at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 11 07:44:05 2011
From: kristen.eisenberg at yahoo.com (Kristen Eisenberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:44:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced]  iCloud pricing
Message-ID: <1320957845.58369.YahooMailNeo@web122305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

testing
?
Kristen Eisenberg
Billige Fl?ge
Marketing GmbH
Emanuelstr. 3,
10317 Berlin
Deutschland
Telefon: +49 (33)
5310967
Email:
utebachmeier at
gmail.com
Site:
http://flug.airego.de - Billige Fl?ge vergleichen
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From MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au  Fri Nov 11 12:35:36 2011
From: MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au (Maurice Cummins)
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:35:36 +0000
Subject: [Maced] laptop trolleys.
In-Reply-To: <a06240800cae1710c1c05@[10.0.0.1]>
Message-ID: <CAE2C690.1BD3C%mcummins@monte.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Jock,

I happen to have an un-used 30 bay trolley available. PC Locks - glass
top. Cost over $5 000 5 years ago. If you're Sydney based and interested
I'll get some pics to send through and we can talk about a reasonable
price.

Maurice

Maurice Cummins | Director of Learning and Technology | ?Apple
Distinguished Educator
Monte Sant' Angelo Mercy College
a 128 Miller St, North Sydney 2060
e mcummins at monte.nsw.edu.au
t 02 9409 6200
f 02 9956 5925 
w www.monte.nsw.edu.au







On 10/11/11 11:17 PM, "Jock Webb" <jocknjo1 at bigpond.com> wrote:

>Need a reasonably mobile laptop trolley to deal with 15  netbooks.
>Anyone had a good experience?
>Jock
>
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>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From rblit at iinet.net.au  Fri Nov 11 20:22:01 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:22:01 +0800
Subject: [Maced] MacBook Pro Vs MacBook Air?
In-Reply-To: <CADEA237.8039%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>
References: <CADEA237.8039%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <3BB251DE-95AC-4795-B8CD-F7AB2C294ECE@iinet.net.au>

Thank you to everyone who offered advice.
I so want to go with the Air
I know that 64GB might be too small.
128 GB 11inch is a fair price point, but the advice re 2 hours less battery life is hard to ignore.
Unfortunately another $150 or so for the 13 inch with 7 hrs battery is just too hard for me to justify. 32 X 150 ish is another 5 grand that the school would have to find and I cant look them in the eye and ask them to do that.

So on Tuesday next week i think i will recommend macbook pro.
:(

blitto


Rod Blitvich 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
 http://web.me.com/blitto



On 08/11/2011, at 6:46 AM, David Jones wrote:

> We will be offering three models in Jan. 2012: Air 64, Air 128 and Pro, with the Air 64 being the one I am pushing as the default for our year 7s. For all the reasons you gave, I think the Air is the way to go. While it's currently a bit expensive, as SD becomes more common, prices should fall.
> For the Air 64, the October National K-12 pricing I have been supplied, is the same as the retail price on the Apple Store. Presumably Apple will be reducing the  K-12 price soon?
> Regards,
> David
> Scotch Adelaide
> 
> From: Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au>
> Reply-To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:16:39 +0800
> To: MacEd <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Subject: [Maced] MacBook Pro Vs MacBook Air?
> 
> Dear MACEDers
> I need to decide on a laptop  model for a class of 32 special (extension) 1:1 Year 8s next year.
> (not quite ready for iPad {but VERY close})
> 
> MacBook Pro13 inch vs MacBook Air 11 inch
> 
> What will they be doing with them.
> Carry them to and from school every day
> A little iWeb
> A little iDVD
> the usual web stuff, 
> Pages/Word
> Comic Life - a little
> Numbers/Excel
> Using photobooth camera for stills and movie
> iMovie
> iCal
> the usual iphoto & itunes
> Garageband
> 
> MACBOOK AIR: http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html AIR = 11 Inch Air 4GB RAM, 126 GB flash memory/solid state hard drive, FIVE hrs battery, no optical drive, weight = 1.08 kg
> vs
> MACBOOK PRO: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ PRO = 13 inch MacBook pro, 500 GB Hard drive, 4 GB RAM, optical drive, SEVEN hrs battery, weight = 2.04 kg
> 
> For me the macbook air has a big case in favour. Smaller and lighter by a whole kilogram for kids backpacks, faster boot times etc because of solid state HD, no moving parts no spinning hard drive should equate to greater reliability.
> Downside is - 1) no cd/dvd drive BUT - i can buy a couple of small portable ones for about $90 each, 2) only 5 hrs battery versus 7.But  Didn't the older macbooks only have three hours battery??? and we survived with them? The macbook pro is more powerful, more HD storage etc.
> HOWEVER - the smaller, lighter form factor coupled with the no spinning hard drive- greater reliability makes me want to go with the Air. One kilogram less in their back-pack, and a smaller unit which fits more easily in back-pacl/school bag.
> 
> What do you guys think?
> Your advice appreciated please
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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From rwhitely at internode.on.net  Fri Nov 11 23:17:00 2011
From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely)
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:17:00 +0800
Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
In-Reply-To: <B52DF8CB-21F5-468F-8492-042A257EE747@skoss.org>
References: <CAD8CC74.DA5A%anthonyc5@optusnet.com.au>
	<964F6D20-1C65-4E94-88D4-B3ED4ABC10BF@det.nsw.edu.au>
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I'm in a similar situation, but different - of course. I want to dock my iPhone to a different MacBook but it is not recognised on it, in iTunes. What do I need to do? Running Snow Leo 10.6.8, iTunes 10.5 and iOS 5.0.1


Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net



On 04/11/2011, at 3:28 am, Matt Skoss wrote:

> I'll try that...thanks Greg & Anthony.
> 
> M.
> 
> 
> On 04/11/2011, at 6:02 AM, Norris, Greg wrote:
> 
>> Can you restore to the backup prior to the update? Nothing more important than an inconsolable daughter.
>> 
>> I feel your pain. I once wiped out entire generations of Sims when I upgraded my daughters computer. ("before I do the upgrade, you DO have a backup of everything?" "Yes, Dad")
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/11/2011, at 10:55 PM, Anthony Citino wrote:
>> 
>>> I installed ios5 on my daughters ipod. Worst thing as her games won't start
>>> up. Only native apple apps do. Spoke with Apple support and they are
>>> stabbing in the dark.
>>> 
>>> How does one console a 10 yo who is obsessed (bloody technology!! Tic) with
>>> levels on some of the games? If I wipe them she will lose them.
>>> 
>>> Bring on 5.1... Hopefully it will help before I resort to wiping the apps.
>>> Before someone mentions the backup, I think the files are corrupt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anthony citino
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Matt Skoss <matt at skoss.org>
>>>> Reply-To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:18:52 +1100
>>>> To: <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>>>> 
>>>> I've just zeroed my hard drive and reinstalled Snow Leopard...because of an
>>>> iTunes issue from before. It worked for a while, and seems to have corrupted.
>>>> 
>>>> Will give your suggestion another crack.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Ellen.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Matt.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/11/2011, at 8:27 PM, Ellen Sheerin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I had some issues and finished up reinstalling iTunes - worked wonders
>>>>> Ellen
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Matt Skoss
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 5:42 PM
>>>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> Subject: [Maced] iPhone won't mount in iTunes
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can see a recent back up, but when I plug in the iPhone, it doesn't show
>>>>> up in iTunes on my MacBook Pro.
>>>>> 
>>>>> An iPad doesn't show up either, which makes me think it is an iTunes issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What should I try next? I've done the obvious things like tried different
>>>>> cables, re-booted the laptop and the iPhone & iPad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When connecting either iPhone or iPad to another computer, it mounts
>>>>> immediately. I've run Disk Utilities on my MackBook Pro to correct any
>>>>> permissions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Running 10.6.8 and iTunes 10.5 (141) on Mac, iOS 5 on iPhone, iOS 4.3.5 on
>>>>> iPad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Matt.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Sat Nov 12 10:00:40 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:00:40 +0800
Subject: [Maced] macbook air, battery life etc
Message-ID: <0FCA6C50-095A-4C1C-A617-22CD47222940@iinet.net.au>

Hi guys
any schools out there already using macbook airs with kids?
any comments?
what about the lower battery life of the 11 inch?

ta
blitto

Rod Blitvich 
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From matt at skoss.org  Mon Nov 14 00:41:02 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:11:02 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Charging iPads from MacBook Pro
Message-ID: <40045597-6CD5-491B-9B3B-7BB0E99C9232@skoss.org>

When I plugged in an iPad to recharge to my older 15" MacBook Pro (unibody, 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo), a message pops up to say it is not charging. I tried with another USB port and another cable...same outcome. My iPhone charges OK on either port with any cable.

When I plug in the same iPad to my daughter's 13" MacBook Pro (unibody, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo), it starts to charge immediately.

The battery on my MacBook Pro needs servicing (limited life, get a message saying Service Battery)...could this be responsible for not delivering enough charge to the USB ports.

My laptop was plugged in to power at the time.

Can anyone suggest anything?

Regards, Matt.

From Wilson.Cheng at sgcs.nsw.edu.au  Mon Nov 14 08:56:20 2011
From: Wilson.Cheng at sgcs.nsw.edu.au (Wilson Cheng)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:56:20 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Charging iPads from MacBook Pro
In-Reply-To: <40045597-6CD5-491B-9B3B-7BB0E99C9232@skoss.org>
References: <40045597-6CD5-491B-9B3B-7BB0E99C9232@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <93FB24B91BF9624485D17CA8ED08824903EF3DB9D8AC@mail01.sgcs.local>

iPad uses 10W power from USB instead of 5W like the iPhone.  Older model of macbook doesn't supply that much power through the USB.  The newer model does.


Wilson Cheng
ICT Manager

ST GEORGE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
70 Bellevue Parade Hurstville NSW 2220
PO Box 144 Ramsgate NSW 2217
Ph: 02 9547 2311 Fax: 02 9547 2867
www.sgcs.com.au



-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Matt Skoss
Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 12:41 AM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: [Maced] Charging iPads from MacBook Pro

When I plugged in an iPad to recharge to my older 15" MacBook Pro (unibody, 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo), a message pops up to say it is not charging. I tried with another USB port and another cable...same outcome. My iPhone charges OK on either port with any cable.

When I plug in the same iPad to my daughter's 13" MacBook Pro (unibody, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo), it starts to charge immediately.

The battery on my MacBook Pro needs servicing (limited life, get a message saying Service Battery)...could this be responsible for not delivering enough charge to the USB ports.

My laptop was plugged in to power at the time.

Can anyone suggest anything?

Regards, Matt.
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From kel at edugator.net.au  Mon Nov 14 16:43:35 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:43:35 +1100
Subject: [Maced] How do I video stream a presentation?
In-Reply-To: <CAOz5zpyTfRUafgUCD+vpBq5cVPek4dzZW3tzeiKMHWeVnF7A-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
	<5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
	<20111110154115.67303ve7hr0f7280@webmail.netregistry.net>
	<CAOz5zpyTfRUafgUCD+vpBq5cVPek4dzZW3tzeiKMHWeVnF7A-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20111114164335.19886c4m7b43y6ww@webmail.netregistry.net>

Hmmm


Justin.tv looks interesting,


Thanks Elliott




Quoting Elliott Chapman <maestroec at gmail.com>:

> Would something like justin.tv or upstream.tv fit the bill?
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:
>
>> A colleague is setting up a PL day and wants the main presentation to be
>> video streamed to teachers in remote schools unable to attend in person.
>>
>> He wants a fairly professional job - ie. better than webcam quality.
>>
>> Where do we start with this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kel
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/**listinfo/maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> Elliott Chapman
> elliott dot chapman at mac dot com
>





From maestroec at gmail.com  Mon Nov 14 17:50:02 2011
From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:50:02 +1100
Subject: [Maced] How do I video stream a presentation?
In-Reply-To: <20111114164335.19886c4m7b43y6ww@webmail.netregistry.net>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
	<5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
	<20111110154115.67303ve7hr0f7280@webmail.netregistry.net>
	<CAOz5zpyTfRUafgUCD+vpBq5cVPek4dzZW3tzeiKMHWeVnF7A-Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<20111114164335.19886c4m7b43y6ww@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <CAOz5zpwj9n0=tVUiYwBJLDSvRmaknSr1tfJtL=95a+E9Ao9jUg@mail.gmail.com>

Oops that should also be ustream.tv damn you autocorrect!!!

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:43 PM, <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:

> Hmmm
>
>
> Justin.tv looks interesting,
>
>
> Thanks Elliott
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Elliott Chapman <maestroec at gmail.com>:
>
>  Would something like justin.tv or upstream.tv fit the bill?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>  A colleague is setting up a PL day and wants the main presentation to be
>>> video streamed to teachers in remote schools unable to attend in person.
>>>
>>> He wants a fairly professional job - ie. better than webcam quality.
>>>
>>> Where do we start with this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Kel
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________****_________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/****listinfo/maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/**listinfo/maced>
>>> <http://zeus.**as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/**maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind Regards,
>> Elliott Chapman
>> elliott dot chapman at mac dot com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/**listinfo/maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced>
>



-- 
Kind Regards,
Elliott Chapman
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Tue Nov 15 09:13:12 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:13:12 +0800
Subject: [Maced] laptop repairs
Message-ID: <A46797EE-DA6C-4DD7-88D3-12045E3B68DD@iinet.net.au>

is 8% of a 1:1 fleet off for repair a realistic figure?




Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam?s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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I haven't lost my mind......
 .......it's backed up on disk somewhere!

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From kel at edugator.net.au  Wed Nov 16 00:01:39 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:01:39 +1100
Subject: [Maced] How do I video stream a presentation?
In-Reply-To: <CAOz5zpwj9n0=tVUiYwBJLDSvRmaknSr1tfJtL=95a+E9Ao9jUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C9D0E96A-EE7A-4B5E-9D90-FDDE059FF714@bigpond.com>
	<D008F839-0963-48BF-9F83-C734420AF61D@bigpond.com>
	<5CB9072B82EDEE47B92907FA12CB1160096F32@SLPEXMBX21.central.det.win>
	<20111110154115.67303ve7hr0f7280@webmail.netregistry.net>
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Message-ID: <20111116000139.91806hs5tct8skg0@webmail.netregistry.net>

Must have been a fruedian slip, Justin.tv looks the goods but I will  
investigate ustream as well.

Thanks


Quoting Elliott Chapman <maestroec at gmail.com>:

> Oops that should also be ustream.tv damn you autocorrect!!!
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:43 PM, <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm
>>
>>
>> Justin.tv looks interesting,
>>
>>
>> Thanks Elliott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Elliott Chapman <maestroec at gmail.com>:
>>
>>  Would something like justin.tv or upstream.tv fit the bill?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM, <kel at edugator.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>  A colleague is setting up a PL day and wants the main presentation to be
>>>> video streamed to teachers in remote schools unable to attend in person.
>>>>
>>>> He wants a fairly professional job - ie. better than webcam quality.
>>>>
>>>> Where do we start with this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Kel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________****_________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/****listinfo/maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/**listinfo/maced>
>>>> <http://zeus.**as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/**maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Elliott Chapman
>>> elliott dot chapman at mac dot com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/**listinfo/maced<http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
> Elliott Chapman
> elliott dot chapman at mac dot com
>





From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Nov 16 00:52:54 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:52:54 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Beach balling
Message-ID: <98C443D3-5900-4B90-9829-9DDC6B11EE47@mac.com>

Hi, I would like to tap into your collective wisdom
I have a MacBook running 10.6.8 with 2gb ram

After 5 minutes from startup it beach balls. I believe a browser is open each time it does this.

I have restored from a known good backup from time machine without success

I have run repair permissions without success.

I have deleted and reinstalled safari and Firefox without success.

Have I overlooked anything?
Thanks

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Wed Nov 16 07:46:29 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Beach balling
In-Reply-To: <98C443D3-5900-4B90-9829-9DDC6B11EE47@mac.com>
References: <98C443D3-5900-4B90-9829-9DDC6B11EE47@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1321389989.44437.YahooMailNeo@web112617.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi Wes,

Try this:

Go to system prefs > accounts and make a second admin account.
Start up using that.
If all works OK then something is scrambled in your original local account Library.

Cheers

Dave


________________________________
From: Wes Warner <wicked_wes at mac.com>
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 12:52 AM
Subject: [Maced] Beach balling

Hi, I would like to tap into your collective wisdom
I have a MacBook running 10.6.8 with 2gb ram

After 5 minutes from startup it beach balls. I believe a browser is open each time it does this.

I have restored from a known good backup from time machine without success

I have run repair permissions without success.

I have deleted and reinstalled safari and Firefox without success.

Have I overlooked anything?
Thanks

Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone
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From wicked_wes at mac.com  Wed Nov 16 07:50:27 2011
From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:50:27 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Beach balling
In-Reply-To: <1321389989.44437.YahooMailNeo@web112617.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <98C443D3-5900-4B90-9829-9DDC6B11EE47@mac.com>
	<1321389989.44437.YahooMailNeo@web112617.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0595505C-DA71-47EB-AD07-624A2BD0E4AA@mac.com>

Hi Dave
Yep I've tried that as well. Something I have noticed is that my free memory starts off with about 1Gb then starts to leak to well under 10 Mb even though I only one app open.  



Wes Warner
? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
Head of Technology
Genesis Christian College
@I_Teach_ICT
Sent from my iPhone

On 16/11/2011, at 6:46 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Wes,
> 
> Try this:
> 
> Go to system prefs > accounts and make a second admin account.
> Start up using that.
> If all works OK then something is scrambled in your original local account Library.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave
> 
> From: Wes Warner <wicked_wes at mac.com>
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 12:52 AM
> Subject: [Maced] Beach balling
> 
> Hi, I would like to tap into your collective wisdom
> I have a MacBook running 10.6.8 with 2gb ram
> 
> After 5 minutes from startup it beach balls. I believe a browser is open each time it does this.
> 
> I have restored from a known good backup from time machine without success
> 
> I have run repair permissions without success.
> 
> I have deleted and reinstalled safari and Firefox without success.
> 
> Have I overlooked anything?
> Thanks
> 
> Wes Warner
> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006
> Head of Technology
> Genesis Christian College
> @I_Teach_ICT
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From matt at skoss.org  Wed Nov 16 09:31:45 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:01:45 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Web pages in Chrome browser - only prints in grey scale
Message-ID: <A46C5500-3190-4F86-A37E-1553CE9BEB70@skoss.org>

Is there a logical reason for this, or have I missed a setting to print in colour?

This also happens if I save a page or resource in PDF format when using Chrome...also in grey scale.

It's easy to switch to Safari, but it adds another step.

Regards, Matt.

From jem at wimmera.com.au  Wed Nov 16 10:25:25 2011
From: jem at wimmera.com.au (John Embury)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:25:25 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Web pages in Chrome browser - only prints in grey scale
In-Reply-To: <A46C5500-3190-4F86-A37E-1553CE9BEB70@skoss.org>
References: <A46C5500-3190-4F86-A37E-1553CE9BEB70@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <BE666F7B-3E7A-4E85-8F93-52FF7CA59972@wimmera.com.au>

On 16/11/2011, at 9:31 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> Is there a logical reason for this, or have I missed a setting to print in colour?
> 
> This also happens if I save a page or resource in PDF format when using Chrome...also in grey scale.
> 
> It's easy to switch to Safari, but it adds another step.

This can happen if your Standard Settings for Chrome are set to Grayscale Printing

In my printer driver software (when you go to print) the Grayscale Printing tick box is in the Quality and Media pop-up menu.
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HTH

John

From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Wed Nov 16 16:37:18 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:37:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] old G4 ibooks
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF55967027575@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

We have a couple now that are struggling big time...When i start them up they seem to be okay but after logging intosay local admin and then standing for about 3/4 minutes the screen greys over and some white writng comes up and says...
"You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press Restart button."
Any advice??


    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail 

Albion Park Rail Public School
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From glenryan at me.com  Wed Nov 16 18:11:37 2011
From: glenryan at me.com (Glen Ryan)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:11:37 +1100
Subject: [Maced] old G4 ibooks
In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF55967027575@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>
Message-ID: <CAE9AC94.179D%glenryan@me.com>

Hi Glenn,
If the machine seems to be stalling/very slow then looks like hard drive
failure. Otherwise a reformat and clean install of OS will bring it back
to new.

Cheers
Glen Ryan

On 16/11/11 4:37 PM, "Southwell, Glenn" <GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au>
wrote:

>We have a couple now that are struggling big time...When i start them up
>they seem to be okay but after logging intosay local admin and then
>standing for about 3/4 minutes the screen greys over and some white
>writng comes up and says...
>"You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for
>several seconds or press Restart button."
>Any advice??
>
>
>    Glenn Southwell
>            at
>        The Rail 
>
>Albion Park Rail Public School
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Thu Nov 17 05:57:04 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:57:04 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
Message-ID: <6DE7D0E0-1A6E-4CEC-B9EB-EEBA955858B2@gmail.com>

Hi Everyone

Is anyone into Geocaching ??
I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?

If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you use?

Mark
 
Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
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GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Thu Nov 17 06:03:21 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:03:21 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
Message-ID: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>

Well two emails in a moment ?

I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 

I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
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GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

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From steweyau at gmail.com  Thu Nov 17 06:49:18 2011
From: steweyau at gmail.com (Greg Stewart)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:49:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
In-Reply-To: <6DE7D0E0-1A6E-4CEC-B9EB-EEBA955858B2@gmail.com>
References: <6DE7D0E0-1A6E-4CEC-B9EB-EEBA955858B2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2D9F06F1-C93A-4396-B532-7310C882A4C6@gmail.com>

Hi Mark

My garmin gps always works better than my iPhone for geocaching  The yellow garmin etrex is reasonably priced at around 100 aud last time I saw one advertised. 

I didn't think the wifi iPads had gps. If it does motion x gps is reasonably good

Greg Stewart

On 17/11/2011, at 5:57 AM, Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone
> 
> Is anyone into Geocaching ??
> I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
> 
> If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you use?
> 
> Mark
>  
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
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From mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au  Thu Nov 17 09:05:42 2011
From: mcoombe at scotch.sa.edu.au (Martin COOMBE)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:35:42 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
In-Reply-To: <2D9F06F1-C93A-4396-B532-7310C882A4C6@gmail.com>
References: <2D9F06F1-C93A-4396-B532-7310C882A4C6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc.000f4cdf00ce95bb3b9aca00e97a50a3.ce9604@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Motion x is pretty good for the price, you can download the maps of your
intended area before leaving the wifi zone
Cheers
Marty Coombe

Learning Technologies Co-ordinator
Scotch College, Adelaide



maced at zeus.as.edu.au writes:
>Hi Mark
>
>
>My garmin gps always works better than my iPhone for geocaching ??The
>yellow garmin etrex is reasonably priced at around 100 aud last time I
>saw one advertised.??
>
>
>I didn't think the wifi iPads had gps. If it does motion x gps is
>reasonably good
>
>Greg Stewart
>
>On 17/11/2011, at 5:57 AM, Mark Stone <[
>mailto:3stonesintripoli at gmail.com ]3stonesintripoli at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Everyone
>
>
>Is anyone into Geocaching ????
>I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to
>do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there
>are many cross curricular applications. ??However we have hit a wall so
>to speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are
>wifi only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't
>require 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might
>work without 3G and WIFI.?? ??Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
>
>
>If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do
>you use?
>
>
>Mark
>??
>Mark Stone
>ICT Learning Coach
>
>GEMS Royal Dubai School
>PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>Email: ????????????????[
>fcp://@firstclass.scotch.sa.edu.au,%231002719/Mailbox/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>]m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>Website: ??????[ http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>]http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>Twitter: ??????????[ http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>]http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>Blog: ????????????????????[ http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>]http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>
>
>GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1
>-Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>
>
>
>
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Thu Nov 17 11:42:59 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:42:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1321490579.57615.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.

Cheers

Dave


________________________________
From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices


Well two emails in a moment ?

I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times?? ?I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well.?

I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well??

Mark


Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email: ????????m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website: ???http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter: ?????http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog: ??????????http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.


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From rhysted at mac.com  Thu Nov 17 13:26:52 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:26:52 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <1321490579.57615.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
	<1321490579.57615.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9CF6FD0D-4AAE-4C93-9D9D-2D8FC0DFCC2B@mac.com>

I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 

Rod

Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S

On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave
> 
> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
> 
> Well two emails in a moment ?
> 
> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
> 
> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au  Thu Nov 17 21:35:30 2011
From: williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au (Williams, Carl C)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:35:30 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Lion problem
Message-ID: <B7BECABE-F303-4B96-A441-B1DAA2B2D0F3@edumail.vic.gov.au>

Hi all

Lion is driving me nuts tonight; I restarted after working with a disk image. The Finder is reopening the disk image's window when restarting, but freezing because the disk image isn't mounted. I'm getting an endless spinning progress indicator in the open window.
Mounting the disk image from my Downloads folder in the Dock doesn't have any effect, and the Finder is completely unresponsive. I have to force a restart.

Has anyone seen this? I'm stuck in an endless loop of forcing a restart, having the window open automatically, and the Finder freezing.

BTW, forcing the Finder to restart doesn't get me anywhere.

TIA

Carl.
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From rhysted at mac.com  Thu Nov 17 21:39:48 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:39:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Lion problem
In-Reply-To: <B7BECABE-F303-4B96-A441-B1DAA2B2D0F3@edumail.vic.gov.au>
References: <B7BECABE-F303-4B96-A441-B1DAA2B2D0F3@edumail.vic.gov.au>
Message-ID: <CD6D52EC-9DBD-4CEB-9868-8141EA34528B@mac.com>

Have you tried starting in Safe Mode. Just hold the shift key down immediatly after the chord sounds on start up. 

Regards

Rod

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School
Ph: 613 5962 4053

Sent from Rod's iPad 2

On 17/11/2011, at 9:35 PM, "Williams, Carl C" <williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Lion is driving me nuts tonight; I restarted after working with a disk image. The Finder is reopening the disk image's window when restarting, but freezing because the disk image isn't mounted. I'm getting an endless spinning progress indicator in the open window.
> Mounting the disk image from my Downloads folder in the Dock doesn't have any effect, and the Finder is completely unresponsive. I have to force a restart.
> 
> Has anyone seen this? I'm stuck in an endless loop of forcing a restart, having the window open automatically, and the Finder freezing.
> 
> BTW, forcing the Finder to restart doesn't get me anywhere.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Carl.
> Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development.
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From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Fri Nov 18 06:29:51 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:29:51 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <9CF6FD0D-4AAE-4C93-9D9D-2D8FC0DFCC2B@mac.com>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
	<1321490579.57615.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9CF6FD0D-4AAE-4C93-9D9D-2D8FC0DFCC2B@mac.com>
Message-ID: <814980DD-DDCC-4C53-B418-401ECCDE044C@gmail.com>

Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?

Sent from my iPad

On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:

> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
> 
> Rod
> 
> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
> 
> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>> 
>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>> 
>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>> 
>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> 
>>    
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Nov 18 07:03:54 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:03:54 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <814980DD-DDCC-4C53-B418-401ECCDE044C@gmail.com>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
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I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 

Mark
Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
   

On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:

> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>> 
>> Rod
>> 
>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>> 
>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>> 
>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>> 
>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>> 
>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Mark Stone
>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>> 
>>>    
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Fri Nov 18 08:14:37 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:14:37 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <F9AEEFA8-32EB-4699-921B-425F7A63F5FD@gmail.com>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BDE38664-4788-41FC-AE2D-95466457F7F3@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>

Good morning Mark,

We also have setup individual Apple IDs for each iPad (not each student) registered in my name on behalf of the school.

We then redeem $30 iTunes cards onto the account for each student and provide the student with the email/password.

The student then is in charge of purchasing the Apps they require, but I have the iTunes Store Invoices emailed to me so I keep tabs of who spends what.

Granted the VPP would be beneficial for us on not wasting money repurchasing Apps and creating accounts, but this was the best we could come up with so the school retains the licenses however abides iTunes Store Terms.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 18/11/2011, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stone wrote:

> I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 
> 
> Mark
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>    
> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
> 
> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:
> 
>> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>>> 
>>> Rod
>>> 
>>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>>> 
>>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>>> 
>>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Stone
>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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> 



From rblit at iinet.net.au  Fri Nov 18 08:15:39 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:15:39 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
Message-ID: <BED4CB7A-D7B7-41D1-A63B-5641C894356A@iinet.net.au>

Hi MACEDers
Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?

Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
versus
Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc

Phil at JW collects them back.

ta
blitto



Rod Blitvich 
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From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Fri Nov 18 08:19:51 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Parker mike)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:19:51 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
In-Reply-To: <BED4CB7A-D7B7-41D1-A63B-5641C894356A@iinet.net.au>
References: <BED4CB7A-D7B7-41D1-A63B-5641C894356A@iinet.net.au>
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We leave them with the students unless there is a good reason to grab them.

Mike


On 18/11/2011, at 8:15 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
> Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?
> 
> Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
> versus
> Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc
> 
> Phil at JW collects them back.
> 
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
> 
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Nov 18 08:21:54 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:21:54 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <BDE38664-4788-41FC-AE2D-95466457F7F3@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
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Thanks Sam 
This too is very helpful.
I'm not sure if schools here would how with the students buying the apps. I think the best thing for schools here would be to the volume licensing in place. it would clear a lot of things up.

Anyone else want to contribute?

Mark

On 18 Nov 2011, at 01:14, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Good morning Mark,
> 
> We also have setup individual Apple IDs for each iPad (not each student) registered in my name on behalf of the school.
> 
> We then redeem $30 iTunes cards onto the account for each student and provide the student with the email/password.
> 
> The student then is in charge of purchasing the Apps they require, but I have the iTunes Store Invoices emailed to me so I keep tabs of who spends what.
> 
> Granted the VPP would be beneficial for us on not wasting money repurchasing Apps and creating accounts, but this was the best we could come up with so the school retains the licenses however abides iTunes Store Terms.
> _________________________
> Sam Osborne
> IT Technician
> MacKillop College
> t : 02 6338 2200
> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
> 
> On 18/11/2011, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 
>> 
>> Mark
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:
>> 
>>> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>>>> 
>>>> Rod
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>>>> 
>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Stone
>>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>>> 
>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Nov 18 08:24:09 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:24:09 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <BDE38664-4788-41FC-AE2D-95466457F7F3@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
	<1321490579.57615.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<9CF6FD0D-4AAE-4C93-9D9D-2D8FC0DFCC2B@mac.com>
	<814980DD-DDCC-4C53-B418-401ECCDE044C@gmail.com>
	<F9AEEFA8-32EB-4699-921B-425F7A63F5FD@gmail.com>
	<BDE38664-4788-41FC-AE2D-95466457F7F3@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <B185A7B7-849C-41CD-81E8-B0508EBBFBAC@gmail.com>

Sam are these school owned iPads or on the BYOD scheme??  Re reading the email made me think they might be the latter.
How much do you spend each year on apps?

Mark

On 18 Nov 2011, at 01:14, Sam Osborne wrote:

> Good morning Mark,
> 
> We also have setup individual Apple IDs for each iPad (not each student) registered in my name on behalf of the school.
> 
> We then redeem $30 iTunes cards onto the account for each student and provide the student with the email/password.
> 
> The student then is in charge of purchasing the Apps they require, but I have the iTunes Store Invoices emailed to me so I keep tabs of who spends what.
> 
> Granted the VPP would be beneficial for us on not wasting money repurchasing Apps and creating accounts, but this was the best we could come up with so the school retains the licenses however abides iTunes Store Terms.
> _________________________
> Sam Osborne
> IT Technician
> MacKillop College
> t : 02 6338 2200
> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
> 
> On 18/11/2011, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 
>> 
>> Mark
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>> 
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>> 
>> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:
>> 
>>> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>>>> 
>>>> Rod
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>>>> 
>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Stone
>>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>>> 
>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au  Fri Nov 18 08:25:34 2011
From: dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au (Duncan Gillespie)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:25:34 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
In-Reply-To: <BED4CB7A-D7B7-41D1-A63B-5641C894356A@iinet.net.au>
References: <BED4CB7A-D7B7-41D1-A63B-5641C894356A@iinet.net.au>
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Hi Rod

We collect them in each year for re-imaging. It is a large logistical exercise and means the busiest month of the year for our help desk technicians is January, but as we are on a 3 year lease we have to collect at least 1/3 of the laptops each year and it means the students start the year with a freshly imaged machine and have some accountability for the physical condition at least once a year.

Cheers

Duncan Gillespie

On 18/11/2011, at 8:15 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
> Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?
> 
> Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
> versus
> Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc
> 
> Phil at JW collects them back.
> 
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
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From bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au  Fri Nov 18 08:53:43 2011
From: bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au (BrettMoller)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:53:43 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
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We run the same as Duncan but make sure we get them in the hands ASAP - kids can come back after a certain to get them early

We roll over every two years and on sell 2 year old machines - so it is important to keep a close eye on physical damage.

Brett


Sent from my iPhone

On 18/11/2011, at 7:26 AM, "Duncan Gillespie" <dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Rod
> 
> We collect them in each year for re-imaging. It is a large logistical exercise and means the busiest month of the year for our help desk technicians is January, but as we are on a 3 year lease we have to collect at least 1/3 of the laptops each year and it means the students start the year with a freshly imaged machine and have some accountability for the physical condition at least once a year.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Duncan Gillespie
> 
> On 18/11/2011, at 8:15 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
> 
>> Hi MACEDers
>> Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
>> Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?
>> 
>> Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
>> versus
>> Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc
>> 
>> Phil at JW collects them back.
>> 
>> ta
>> blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich 
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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From poundmail at gmail.com  Fri Nov 18 08:58:27 2011
From: poundmail at gmail.com (Phil Pound)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:58:27 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
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Hi all

Yes, Rod is correct. We collect them back at JWC.
We do have secure storage for them and they are put through usual processes
of deep clean, check, re-image as required, ready for the new year over
that break.
Unless we are sending the fleet back as at present due to lease ending.
I would imagine you would do similar so that all is ready for the new year
and less risk in terms of machines going for an extended, non-return
holiday as families move on...
Does raise the questions Rod mentions if there is no secure storage area
with ways to speedily identify allocation in the new year.
Our process revolves around the secure storage lockers and asset
identification at several levels.
Most schools would not have these and find other secure locations and
tagging processes from what I have heard.

regards
Phil

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Hi MACEDers
> Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
> Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with
> the kids?
>
> Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then
> re-distributing next year.
> versus
> Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift
> schools without telling you, etc
>
> Phil at JW collects them back.
>
> ta
> blitto
>
>
>
> *Rod Blitvich*
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From MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au  Fri Nov 18 09:13:32 2011
From: MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au (Maurice Cummins)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:13:32 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
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Message-ID: <CAEBCE5A.1C1E0%mcummins@monte.nsw.edu.au>

We leave them in students' hands as the aim of our program is to build stewardship of the equipment. Our students deal with warranty and insurance damage day by day. We tent to re-image whole year groups but do this during the school term, completing a tutor group per 1/2 day, advising staff those students don't have their MacBook for those 4 lessons once per year. The staff and students are happy doing things this way.

Maurice

Monte Sant' Angelo Mercy College
North Sydney

From: BrettMoller <bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au<mailto:bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au>>
Reply-To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au<mailto:maced at zeus.as.edu.au>>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:53:43 +1000
To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au<mailto:maced at zeus.as.edu.au>>
Subject: Re: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?

We run the same as Duncan but make sure we get them in the hands ASAP - kids can come back after a certain to get them early

We roll over every two years and on sell 2 year old machines - so it is important to keep a close eye on physical damage.

Brett


Sent from my iPhone

On 18/11/2011, at 7:26 AM, "Duncan Gillespie" <dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au<mailto:dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au>> wrote:

Hi Rod

We collect them in each year for re-imaging. It is a large logistical exercise and means the busiest month of the year for our help desk technicians is January, but as we are on a 3 year lease we have to collect at least 1/3 of the laptops each year and it means the students start the year with a freshly imaged machine and have some accountability for the physical condition at least once a year.

Cheers

Duncan Gillespie

On 18/11/2011, at 8:15 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

Hi MACEDers
Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?

Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
versus
Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc

Phil at JW collects them back.

ta
blitto



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From matt at skoss.org  Fri Nov 18 09:22:48 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:52:48 +0930
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
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We (Centralian Senior College, Alice Sprigns) are collecting them up in Week 6 (this week), then re-allocating them to kids that have good attendance to take home over the holidays.

We're also giving them out to kids from the Year 7-9 school who have 90% attendance and have completed the enrolment process.

They are coming from a mixed environment, and we figure they could get some air time with a Mac.

Regards, Matt.



On 18/11/2011, at 7:28 AM, Phil Pound wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Yes, Rod is correct. We collect them back at JWC.
> We do have secure storage for them and they are put through usual processes of deep clean, check, re-image as required, ready for the new year over that break.
> Unless we are sending the fleet back as at present due to lease ending.
> I would imagine you would do similar so that all is ready for the new year and less risk in terms of machines going for an extended, non-return holiday as families move on...
> Does raise the questions Rod mentions if there is no secure storage area with ways to speedily identify allocation in the new year.
> Our process revolves around the secure storage lockers and asset identification at several levels.
> Most schools would not have these and find other secure locations and tagging processes from what I have heard.
> 
> regards
> Phil
> 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Hi MACEDers
> Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
> Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?
> 
> Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
> versus
> Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc
> 
> Phil at JW collects them back.
> 
> ta
> blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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From Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au  Fri Nov 18 11:25:25 2011
From: Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au (Simshauser, Michael)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:25:25 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
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Mark,
    On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for navigation after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I think) depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps would be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and similar devices until recently used Skyhook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may vary....
Regards,
    Michael

________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mark Stone
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
To: Macs in Education
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching

Hi Everyone

Is anyone into Geocaching ...?
I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?

If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you use?

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
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From williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au  Fri Nov 18 12:23:30 2011
From: williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au (Carl Williams)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:23:30 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Lion problem
In-Reply-To: <CD6D52EC-9DBD-4CEB-9868-8141EA34528B@mac.com>
References: <B7BECABE-F303-4B96-A441-B1DAA2B2D0F3@edumail.vic.gov.au>
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Yep, will boot into safe mode (although even that's a bit weird, have to click on the menu bar and dock to make them appear), and can boot into another user account. Time to start weeding through startup items and preference files, methinks...

C
On 17/11/2011, at 9:39 PM, Rod Hysted wrote:

> Have you tried starting in Safe Mode. Just hold the shift key down immediatly after the chord sounds on start up. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rod
> 
> Rod Hysted
> Assistant Principal
> Healesville Primary School
> Ph: 613 5962 4053
> 
> Sent from Rod's iPad 2
> 
> On 17/11/2011, at 9:35 PM, "Williams, Carl C" <williams.carl.c at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Lion is driving me nuts tonight; I restarted after working with a disk image. The Finder is reopening the disk image's window when restarting, but freezing because the disk image isn't mounted. I'm getting an endless spinning progress indicator in the open window.
>> Mounting the disk image from my Downloads folder in the Dock doesn't have any effect, and the Finder is completely unresponsive. I have to force a restart.
>> 
>> Has anyone seen this? I'm stuck in an endless loop of forcing a restart, having the window open automatically, and the Finder freezing.
>> 
>> BTW, forcing the Finder to restart doesn't get me anywhere.
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> Carl.
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Sat Nov 19 11:53:05 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:53:05 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching
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Hi Michael

Not  Geocaching!

What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can you
get double ended ?big? USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once
connected, can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G iPad?

Regards
Chris XYZ

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On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael"
<Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Mark,
>     On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for navigation
> after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I think)
> depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of
> connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps would
> be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and similar
> devices until recently used Skyhook
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may
> vary....
> Regards,
>     Michael
> 
> 
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
> Behalf Of Mark Stone
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
> To: Macs in Education
> Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
> 
> Hi Everyone 
> 
> Is anyone into Geocaching ??
> I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do
> with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many
> cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We
> want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we
> are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it
> possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and
> WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
> 
> If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you
> use?
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year
> 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
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From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au  Sat Nov 19 14:36:37 2011
From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:36:37 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching
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I have a wifi-only iPad but when I am away from home or school I connect using the iPhone personal wifi hotspot.

Before I got the iPhone I used a Netcomm MyZone like this

http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3g24w

Up to 5 people can connect simultaneously.

Greg


On 19/11/2011, at 11:53 AM, Chris Skrzeczynski wrote:

Hi Michael

Not  Geocaching!

What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can you get double ended ?big? USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once connected, can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G iPad?

Regards
Chris XYZ

=================================================
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Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au<http://www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au>
Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au<x-msg://212/cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au>
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On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael" <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au<x-msg://212/Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au>> wrote:

Mark,
   On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for navigation after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I think) depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps would be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and similar devices until recently used Skyhook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may vary....
Regards,
   Michael

________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au<x-msg://212/maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au> [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mark Stone
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
To: Macs in Education
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching

Hi Everyone

Is anyone into Geocaching ??
I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?

If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you use?

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com<x-msg://212/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com>
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com<http://www.royaldubaischool.com/>
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Sun Nov 20 22:19:42 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:19:42 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching - iPhone wifi hotspot
In-Reply-To: <3ED4C3FE-5424-4FE3-A39D-1945584F66E9@det.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CAEF1F6E.5EA1%cxyz@tpg.com.au>

Hi Greg

Totally cool! Thanks so much for this advice. I have an iPhone 4 so have set
up a personal wifi hotspot and it works a treat.

Web investigation calls this 'free' wifi. Does it charge against my iPhone
plan or my computer internet connection plan? (2 different plans). I'm not
clear on this. What does 'free' mean?

Would be very grateful if you could explain this.

Much appreciate your help to set up this connection.
Many thanks
Chris
-------------------------------------------




> I have a wifi-only iPad but when I am away from home or school I connect using
> the iPhone personal wifi hotspot.
> 
> Before I got the iPhone I used a Netcomm MyZone like this
> 
> http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3g24w
> 
> Up to 5 people can connect simultaneously.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On 19/11/2011, at 11:53 AM, Chris Skrzeczynski wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael
> 
> Not  Geocaching!
> 
> What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can you get
> double ended ?big? USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once connected,
> can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G iPad?
> 
> Regards
> Chris XYZ
> 
> =================================================
> Chris Skrzeczynski, Teacher librarian
> Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
> 2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
> Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
> www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au<http://www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au>
> Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au<x-msg://212/cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au>
> =================================================
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael"
> <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au<x-msg://212/Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.
> au>> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
>    On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for navigation
> after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I think)
> depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of
> connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps would
> be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and similar
> devices until recently used Skyhook
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may
> vary....
> Regards,
>    Michael
> 
> ________________________________
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au<x-msg://212/maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au>
> [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mark Stone
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
> To: Macs in Education
> Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
> 
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Is anyone into Geocaching ??
> I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do
> with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many
> cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We
> want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we
> are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it
> possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and
> WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
> 
> If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you
> use?
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com<x-msg://212/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com>
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com<http://www.royaldubaischool.com/>
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           
> http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com<http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com/>
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year
> 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> 
> 
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From garry at gstokes.org  Mon Nov 21 05:53:48 2011
From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:53:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching - iPhone wifi hotspot
In-Reply-To: <CAEF1F6E.5EA1%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
References: <3ED4C3FE-5424-4FE3-A39D-1945584F66E9@det.nsw.edu.au>
	<CAEF1F6E.5EA1%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
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against your iphone plan ... same as using data via your iphone
if you are anything like me be careful .. it is easier to use much
more data via your computer than phone
excess data charges are not usually cheap


free?? you don't have to pay extra to get the functionality?


On 20 November 2011 22:19, Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Greg
>
> Totally cool! Thanks so much for this advice. I have an iPhone 4 so have set
> up a personal wifi hotspot and it works a treat.
>
> Web investigation calls this 'free' wifi. Does it charge against my iPhone
> plan or my computer internet connection plan? (2 different plans). I'm not
> clear on this. What does 'free' mean?
>
> Would be very grateful if you could explain this.
>
> Much appreciate your help to set up this connection.
> Many thanks
> Chris
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>> I have a wifi-only iPad but when I am away from home or school I connect using
>> the iPhone personal wifi hotspot.
>>
>> Before I got the iPhone I used a Netcomm MyZone like this
>>
>> http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3g24w
>>
>> Up to 5 people can connect simultaneously.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On 19/11/2011, at 11:53 AM, Chris Skrzeczynski wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael
>>
>> Not ?Geocaching!
>>
>> What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can you get
>> double ended ?big? USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once connected,
>> can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G iPad?
>>
>> Regards
>> Chris XYZ
>>
>> =================================================
>> Chris Skrzeczynski, Teacher librarian
>> Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
>> 2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
>> Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
>> www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au<http://www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au>
>> Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au<x-msg://212/cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au>
>> =================================================
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael"
>> <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au<x-msg://212/Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.
>> au>> wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>> ? ?On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for navigation
>> after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I think)
>> depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of
>> connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps would
>> be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and similar
>> devices until recently used Skyhook
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may
>> vary....
>> Regards,
>> ? ?Michael
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au<x-msg://212/maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au>
>> [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mark Stone
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
>> To: Macs in Education
>> Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
>>
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> Is anyone into Geocaching ??
>> I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do
>> with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many
>> cross curricular applications. ?However we have hit a wall so to speak. We
>> want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we
>> are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it
>> possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and
>> WIFI.?? ?Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
>>
>> If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you
>> use?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Stone
>> ICT Learning Coach
>>
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>> Email: ? ? ? ? m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com<x-msg://212/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com>
>> Website: ? ?http://www.royaldubaischool.com<http://www.royaldubaischool.com/>
>> Twitter: ? ? ?http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>> Blog:
>> http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com<http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com/>
>>
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year
>> 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>
>>
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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Mon Nov 21 06:17:20 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 06:17:20 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching - iPhone wifi hotspot
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Thanks for that.
Much appreciated.

Chris

On Mon, Nov 21st, 2011 at 5:53 AM, garry stokes <garry at gstokes.org> wrote:

> against your iphone plan ... same as using data via your iphone
> if you are anything like me be careful .. it is easier to use much
> more data via your computer than phone
> excess data charges are not usually cheap
> 
> 
> free?? you don't have to pay extra to get the functionality?
> 
> 
> On 20 November 2011 22:19, Chris Skrzeczynski <cxyz at tpg.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi Greg
> >
> > Totally cool! Thanks so much for this advice. I have an iPhone 4 so have
> set
> > up a personal wifi hotspot and it works a treat.
> >
> > Web investigation calls this 'free' wifi. Does it charge against my
> iPhone
> > plan or my computer internet connection plan? (2 different plans). I'm
> not
> > clear on this. What does 'free' mean?
> >
> > Would be very grateful if you could explain this.
> >
> > Much appreciate your help to set up this connection.
> > Many thanks
> > Chris
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> I have a wifi-only iPad but when I am away from home or school I
> connect using
> >> the iPhone personal wifi hotspot.
> >>
> >> Before I got the iPhone I used a Netcomm MyZone like this
> >>
> >> http://www.netcomm.com.au/netcomm-products/3g-mobile-broadband/3g24w
> >>
> >> Up to 5 people can connect simultaneously.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19/11/2011, at 11:53 AM, Chris Skrzeczynski wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Michael
> >>
> >> Not ??Geocaching!
> >>
> >> What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can
> you get
> >> double ended ??big?? USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once
> connected,
> >> can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G iPad?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Chris XYZ
> >>
> >> =================================================
> >> Chris Skrzeczynski, Teacher librarian
> >> Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
> >> 2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
> >> Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
> >> www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au<http://www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au>
> >> Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au<x-msg://212/cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au>
> >> =================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael"
> >>
> <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au<x-msg://212/Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.
> >> au>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mark,
> >> ?? ??On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for
> navigation
> >> after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I
> think)
> >> depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of
> >> connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps
> would
> >> be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and
> similar
> >> devices until recently used Skyhook
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results
> may
> >> vary....
> >> Regards,
> >> ?? ??Michael
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From:
> maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au<x-msg://212/maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au>
> >> [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mark Stone
> >> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
> >> To: Macs in Education
> >> Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone
> >>
> >> Is anyone into Geocaching ???
> >> I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants
> to do
> >> with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are
> many
> >> cross curricular applications. ??However we have hit a wall so to
> speak. We
> >> want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only
> and we
> >> are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it
> >> possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G
> and
> >> WIFI.?? ??Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
> >>
> >> If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices
> do you
> >> use?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Mark Stone
> >> ICT Learning Coach
> >>
> >> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> >> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> >> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> >> Email: ?? ?? ?? ??
> m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com<x-msg://212/m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com>
> >> Website: ??
> ??http://www.royaldubaischool.com<http://www.royaldubaischool.com/>
> >> Twitter: ?? ?? ??http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> >> Blog:
> >> http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com<http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education,
> FS1 -Year
> >> 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> >>
> >>
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From Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au  Mon Nov 21 09:27:51 2011
From: Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au (Simshauser, Michael)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:27:51 +0000
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching
In-Reply-To: <CAED3B11.5E81%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
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	<CAED3B11.5E81%cxyz@tpg.com.au>
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Chris,
    I don't use any cables. The iPad wifi connects to the 3G dongle and then it transmits over the 3g network. Being prepaid as well makes it pretty cheap and easy. :)

Michael

________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Chris Skrzeczynski
Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011 11:53 AM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching

Hi Michael

Not  Geocaching!

What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can you get double ended 'big' USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once connected, can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G iPad?

Regards
Chris XYZ

=================================================
Chris Skrzeczynski, Teacher librarian
Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au
Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au
=================================================



On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael" <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

Mark,
   On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for navigation after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching would (I think) depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through that sort of connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with local maps would be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that the iPads and similar devices until recently used Skyhook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may vary....
Regards,
   Michael

________________________________
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Mark Stone
Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
To: Macs in Education
Subject: [Maced] Geocaching

Hi Everyone

Is anyone into Geocaching ...?
I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are many cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work without 3G and WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?

If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do you use?

Mark

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach

GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com

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From cxyz at tpg.com.au  Mon Nov 21 19:48:56 2011
From: cxyz at tpg.com.au (Chris Skrzeczynski)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:48:56 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching
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Hi Michael

Which 3G dongle do you have?

Cheers
Chris


On Mon, Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:27 AM, "Simshauser, Michael" <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au> 
wrote:

> Chris,
>     I don't use any cables. The iPad wifi connects to the 3G dongle and
> then it transmits over the 3g network. Being prepaid as well makes it
> pretty cheap and easy. :)
> 
> Michael
> 
> ________________________________
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au]
> On Behalf Of Chris Skrzeczynski
> Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011 11:53 AM
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject: Re: [Maced] Beyond Geocaching
> 
> Hi Michael
> 
> Not  Geocaching!
> 
> What sort of cable do you use to connect your iPad to a 3G dongle? Can you
> get double ended 'big' USB plugs like on the USB extension cables? Once
> connected, can you use the mobile 3G as a 3G connection for a non 3G
> iPad?
> 
> Regards
> Chris XYZ
> 
> =================================================
> Chris Skrzeczynski, Teacher librarian
> Our Lady of Dolours Primary School
> 2 Willcocks St., Mitchelton, Qld. 4053
> Ph: (07) 3355 7763 | Fax (07) 3855 2641
> www.ourladyofdolours.qld.edu.au
> Email: cxyz at bne.catholic.edu.au
> =================================================
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/11/11 10:25 AM, "Simshauser, Michael"
> <Michael.Simshauser at det.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
>    On a recent holiday to Adelaide we used my Wifi only iPad for
> navigation after connecting it to a 3g dongle. Using it for geocaching
> would (I think) depend on what GPS app you are using on your iPad through
> that sort of connection. I would assume that a locally developed app with
> local maps would be more helpful than Google Maps :P Also be aware that
> the iPads and similar devices until recently used Skyhook
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless#cite_note-5 so results may
> vary....
> Regards,
>    Michael
> 
> ________________________________
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au]
> On Behalf Of Mark Stone
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 5:57 AM
> To: Macs in Education
> Subject: [Maced] Geocaching
> 
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Is anyone into Geocaching ...?
> I have a teacher here who explained some of it to me and what he wants to
> do with his Y5's. It sounds great as well as being a heap of fun there are
> many cross curricular applications.  However we have hit a wall so to
> speak. We want to geocache with an iPad or iPod Touch. Our iPads are wifi
> only and we are finding it difficult to find anything the doesn't require
> 3G. Is it possible? or am I dreaming that at least the iPad might work
> without 3G and WIFI.??  Can it work with the GPS in an iPad?
> 
> If its not possible and some of you are doing geocaching, what devices do
> you use?
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
> 
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1
> -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> 
> 
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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Mon Nov 21 20:26:51 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:26:51 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
In-Reply-To: <B185A7B7-849C-41CD-81E8-B0508EBBFBAC@gmail.com>
References: <BD90B58D-EFF8-4D65-9383-DE375D2A8A19@gmail.com>
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Good evening Mark,

They are school owned iPads.  We wanted to retain ownership of the licenses we purchased and therefore needed an Apple ID for each iPad.  So far this was our first year of iPads, we purchased a $30 iTunes Card for each iPad and got a discount for buying in bulk.

We are purchasing iPads now for the 2012 Year 11 cohort which will require a further 105 accounts and 105 iTunes Gift Cards.  After this, the Year 12's will finish and return their 1 1/2 year old iPads which will then go to the new Year 11s of 2013.  Because we own the Apple IDs - and therefore the licenses to the bought Apps - we don't need to buy them again.  Luckily the way the iTunes Ecosystem works is most updates to Apps are free - and you can transfer Apple IDs to other devices.  So whilst it may seem expensive at the moment (approx $6000) the licenses as far as we can foresee will never need to be purchased again. Reusable for each fleet of iPads.  This is yet to be seen though as Apple could very easily release Pages 2.0 as a separate App or an in-app purchase, but we are taking the risk as the students need the Apps one way or another!

Compare this cost to that of the same number of licenses for Office for a PC/Mac and you can see iPads TCO is quite low, especially if you include the cost of upgrading software.

Granted when (not if) the VPP comes to Australia our system will be kicked out the door.  But seems the best way at the moment for us.  From all my research I've got some good contacts who work for iTunes America and hopefully one day they will allow the transfer of purchases to other accounts, but at the moment this isn't allowed.

Another option I would recommend is linking a school Credit Card to a single account and gift the Apps to the students.  They keep the licenses but there isn't any wasted residual credit - some students have a couple of dollars or cents on their accounts that can't really be used so therefore is wasted, but we think that the discount we got on the cards offsets this.

One thing to note, it is illegal to only purchase an App once on one account and use this account on all devices for education, commercial or government institutions.  This is only permitted for personally owned devices.

Sorry for such a long response,
Sam.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 18/11/2011, at 8:24 AM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Sam are these school owned iPads or on the BYOD scheme??  Re reading the email made me think they might be the latter.
> How much do you spend each year on apps?
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 18 Nov 2011, at 01:14, Sam Osborne wrote:
> 
>> Good morning Mark,
>> 
>> We also have setup individual Apple IDs for each iPad (not each student) registered in my name on behalf of the school.
>> 
>> We then redeem $30 iTunes cards onto the account for each student and provide the student with the email/password.
>> 
>> The student then is in charge of purchasing the Apps they require, but I have the iTunes Store Invoices emailed to me so I keep tabs of who spends what.
>> 
>> Granted the VPP would be beneficial for us on not wasting money repurchasing Apps and creating accounts, but this was the best we could come up with so the school retains the licenses however abides iTunes Store Terms.
>> _________________________
>> Sam Osborne
>> IT Technician
>> MacKillop College
>> t : 02 6338 2200
>> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
>> 
>> On 18/11/2011, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
>> 
>>> I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> Mark Stone
>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>> 
>>> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>>>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>>>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>>>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>>>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark Stone
>>>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Tue Nov 22 01:37:36 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:37:36 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
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Hi Sam

Thank you so much for the help you have given me. The time you have put into this has laid a very good basis for any work I do here. You can get away with anything just about in the Middle East and Africa! However we need to be different and set a benchmark of other schools to 'get it right'.

I wasn't aware that you can put personally owned apps on as many devices as you like. That leaves a huge grey area. 

If I have 25 iMacs and I download Lion OSX or Comiclife from the Mac AppStore, is it the same as the iTunes store? That is I have to download it 25 times?

I will be in Australia - hopefully - in August next year. I would very much like to catch up with you and see what you are doing? Would that be possible. Where in Australia is your school?

Ok I had better get back to the school work.

Again, thank you so much for your help with this.
Mark

From my iPad

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach
GEMS Royal Dubai School

  
 


On 21 Nov 2011, at 01:26 PM, Sam Osborne <ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Good evening Mark,
> 
> They are school owned iPads.  We wanted to retain ownership of the licenses we purchased and therefore needed an Apple ID for each iPad.  So far this was our first year of iPads, we purchased a $30 iTunes Card for each iPad and got a discount for buying in bulk.
> 
> We are purchasing iPads now for the 2012 Year 11 cohort which will require a further 105 accounts and 105 iTunes Gift Cards.  After this, the Year 12's will finish and return their 1 1/2 year old iPads which will then go to the new Year 11s of 2013.  Because we own the Apple IDs - and therefore the licenses to the bought Apps - we don't need to buy them again.  Luckily the way the iTunes Ecosystem works is most updates to Apps are free - and you can transfer Apple IDs to other devices.  So whilst it may seem expensive at the moment (approx $6000) the licenses as far as we can foresee will never need to be purchased again. Reusable for each fleet of iPads.  This is yet to be seen though as Apple could very easily release Pages 2.0 as a separate App or an in-app purchase, but we are taking the risk as the students need the Apps one way or another!
> 
> Compare this cost to that of the same number of licenses for Office for a PC/Mac and you can see iPads TCO is quite low, especially if you include the cost of upgrading software.
> 
> Granted when (not if) the VPP comes to Australia our system will be kicked out the door.  But seems the best way at the moment for us.  From all my research I've got some good contacts who work for iTunes America and hopefully one day they will allow the transfer of purchases to other accounts, but at the moment this isn't allowed.
> 
> Another option I would recommend is linking a school Credit Card to a single account and gift the Apps to the students.  They keep the licenses but there isn't any wasted residual credit - some students have a couple of dollars or cents on their accounts that can't really be used so therefore is wasted, but we think that the discount we got on the cards offsets this.
> 
> One thing to note, it is illegal to only purchase an App once on one account and use this account on all devices for education, commercial or government institutions.  This is only permitted for personally owned devices.
> 
> Sorry for such a long response,
> Sam.
> _________________________
> Sam Osborne
> IT Technician
> MacKillop College
> t : 02 6338 2200
> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
> 
> On 18/11/2011, at 8:24 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> Sam are these school owned iPads or on the BYOD scheme??  Re reading the email made me think they might be the latter.
>> How much do you spend each year on apps?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 01:14, Sam Osborne wrote:
>> 
>>> Good morning Mark,
>>> 
>>> We also have setup individual Apple IDs for each iPad (not each student) registered in my name on behalf of the school.
>>> 
>>> We then redeem $30 iTunes cards onto the account for each student and provide the student with the email/password.
>>> 
>>> The student then is in charge of purchasing the Apps they require, but I have the iTunes Store Invoices emailed to me so I keep tabs of who spends what.
>>> 
>>> Granted the VPP would be beneficial for us on not wasting money repurchasing Apps and creating accounts, but this was the best we could come up with so the school retains the licenses however abides iTunes Store Terms.
>>> _________________________
>>> Sam Osborne
>>> IT Technician
>>> MacKillop College
>>> t : 02 6338 2200
>>> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
>>> 
>>> On 18/11/2011, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> Mark Stone
>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>> 
>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>>> 
>>>> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>>>>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>>>>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>>>>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>>>>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark Stone
>>>>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Tue Nov 22 07:47:47 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 07:47:47 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
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Good morning Mark,

For schools that is correct, you should repurchase the App for each computer.  But lets say at home you can purchase an App from the Mac App store and use it on your iMac, MacBook and Mac Mini for example but only have to purchase it once.  Same for iTunes App Store, you can purchase an App on your iPhone and use it on your iPad and iPod Touch.

A visit sounds great, we are in Bathurst, which is about 2 hours west of Sydney through the Blue Mountains.

I plan on taking leave in August also to visit New Zealand so we might have to see how the timing is like closer to the date?

Not a problem, we all need to aid each other.  IT is just too much and moves too quickly to do it alone.

Have a good day,
Sam.
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 22/11/2011, at 1:37 AM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Hi Sam
> 
> Thank you so much for the help you have given me. The time you have put into this has laid a very good basis for any work I do here. You can get away with anything just about in the Middle East and Africa! However we need to be different and set a benchmark of other schools to 'get it right'.
> 
> I wasn't aware that you can put personally owned apps on as many devices as you like. That leaves a huge grey area. 
> 
> If I have 25 iMacs and I download Lion OSX or Comiclife from the Mac AppStore, is it the same as the iTunes store? That is I have to download it 25 times?
> 
> I will be in Australia - hopefully - in August next year. I would very much like to catch up with you and see what you are doing? Would that be possible. Where in Australia is your school?
> 
> Ok I had better get back to the school work.
> 
> Again, thank you so much for your help with this.
> Mark
> 
> From my iPad
> 
> Mark Stone
> ICT Learning Coach
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2011, at 01:26 PM, Sam Osborne <ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
>> Good evening Mark,
>> 
>> They are school owned iPads.  We wanted to retain ownership of the licenses we purchased and therefore needed an Apple ID for each iPad.  So far this was our first year of iPads, we purchased a $30 iTunes Card for each iPad and got a discount for buying in bulk.
>> 
>> We are purchasing iPads now for the 2012 Year 11 cohort which will require a further 105 accounts and 105 iTunes Gift Cards.  After this, the Year 12's will finish and return their 1 1/2 year old iPads which will then go to the new Year 11s of 2013.  Because we own the Apple IDs - and therefore the licenses to the bought Apps - we don't need to buy them again.  Luckily the way the iTunes Ecosystem works is most updates to Apps are free - and you can transfer Apple IDs to other devices.  So whilst it may seem expensive at the moment (approx $6000) the licenses as far as we can foresee will never need to be purchased again. Reusable for each fleet of iPads.  This is yet to be seen though as Apple could very easily release Pages 2.0 as a separate App or an in-app purchase, but we are taking the risk as the students need the Apps one way or another!
>> 
>> Compare this cost to that of the same number of licenses for Office for a PC/Mac and you can see iPads TCO is quite low, especially if you include the cost of upgrading software.
>> 
>> Granted when (not if) the VPP comes to Australia our system will be kicked out the door.  But seems the best way at the moment for us.  From all my research I've got some good contacts who work for iTunes America and hopefully one day they will allow the transfer of purchases to other accounts, but at the moment this isn't allowed.
>> 
>> Another option I would recommend is linking a school Credit Card to a single account and gift the Apps to the students.  They keep the licenses but there isn't any wasted residual credit - some students have a couple of dollars or cents on their accounts that can't really be used so therefore is wasted, but we think that the discount we got on the cards offsets this.
>> 
>> One thing to note, it is illegal to only purchase an App once on one account and use this account on all devices for education, commercial or government institutions.  This is only permitted for personally owned devices.
>> 
>> Sorry for such a long response,
>> Sam.
>> _________________________
>> Sam Osborne
>> IT Technician
>> MacKillop College
>> t : 02 6338 2200
>> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
>> 
>> On 18/11/2011, at 8:24 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
>> 
>>> Sam are these school owned iPads or on the BYOD scheme??  Re reading the email made me think they might be the latter.
>>> How much do you spend each year on apps?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2011, at 01:14, Sam Osborne wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Good morning Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> We also have setup individual Apple IDs for each iPad (not each student) registered in my name on behalf of the school.
>>>> 
>>>> We then redeem $30 iTunes cards onto the account for each student and provide the student with the email/password.
>>>> 
>>>> The student then is in charge of purchasing the Apps they require, but I have the iTunes Store Invoices emailed to me so I keep tabs of who spends what.
>>>> 
>>>> Granted the VPP would be beneficial for us on not wasting money repurchasing Apps and creating accounts, but this was the best we could come up with so the school retains the licenses however abides iTunes Store Terms.
>>>> _________________________
>>>> Sam Osborne
>>>> IT Technician
>>>> MacKillop College
>>>> t : 02 6338 2200
>>>> www.mkc.nsw.edu.au
>>>> 
>>>> On 18/11/2011, at 7:03 AM, Mark Stone wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I appreciate very much Dave's response on how they determine what apps to use and buy and how the accounts are set up, yearly budget for apps etc. Would anyone else like to contribute. I am putting together some evidence of what schools are doing with regards to apps and mobile devices. in this part of the world anything goes and we need to get it right. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> Mark Stone
>>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>>> 
>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> 
>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.pdf><PastedGraphic-2.pdf>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Ashby Jenny wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another rumour? I've been hearing rumors now for over 12 mths. I wonder when?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 1:26 PM, Rod Hysted <rhysted at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I heard a rumour about the end of the month for VLM. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 11:42 AM, Dave Hounsell <hounselltech at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We run 25 iPads - all OS5 - and each has it's own Google email identity and iTunes account loaded with $60 redeem.
>>>>>>>> Only the teachers know the account password. App loading is a couple of presses and password per iPad.
>>>>>>>> I think it's quicker than VLM numbers and Lion server deployment of config files is a bit beyond me!
>>>>>>>> So each iPad is self contained and simply managed.
>>>>>>>> Instead of VLM (not available in Oz) we buy the iTunes cards on special at Dept Store sales - usually 25% off.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Macs in Education <maced at zeus.as.edu.au>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2011 6:03 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Maced] Apps for mobile devices
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well two emails in a moment ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to know how schools are dealing with buying apps for their iPads and iPods etc. I am waiting for Apple to come up with the same sort of licence they have for schools in the US. Until then, whenever that maybe, do we buy one app for one machine and if you have 50 you pay for it 50 times??  I can see why BYOD is a good idea! Bring you own app as well. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to know how other schools deal with this and what sort of budget they have for it as well? 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark Stone
>>>>>>>> ICT Learning Coach
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>>>>>>>> PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E
>>>>>>>> Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411
>>>>>>>> Email:         m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com
>>>>>>>> Website:    http://www.royaldubaischool.com
>>>>>>>> Twitter:      http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>>>>>>> Blog:           http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Tue Nov 22 08:50:25 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:50:25 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Collect Back 1:1 Laptops?
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Thanks to those who replied.
I sent the question to 2 lists.
The replies are: Students to keep over holidays: 37%, Collect back 63%, total replies = 8.

Now the honeymoon's over with NSSCF $ there are a lot of issues that need addressing.
It seems we each individually stumble along re-inventing wheels as we go.
It's good to have this online collaboration.
ta
blitto


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On 18/11/2011, at 6:22 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> We (Centralian Senior College, Alice Sprigns) are collecting them up in Week 6 (this week), then re-allocating them to kids that have good attendance to take home over the holidays.
> 
> We're also giving them out to kids from the Year 7-9 school who have 90% attendance and have completed the enrolment process.
> 
> They are coming from a mixed environment, and we figure they could get some air time with a Mac.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/11/2011, at 7:28 AM, Phil Pound wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Yes, Rod is correct. We collect them back at JWC.
>> We do have secure storage for them and they are put through usual processes of deep clean, check, re-image as required, ready for the new year over that break.
>> Unless we are sending the fleet back as at present due to lease ending.
>> I would imagine you would do similar so that all is ready for the new year and less risk in terms of machines going for an extended, non-return holiday as families move on...
>> Does raise the questions Rod mentions if there is no secure storage area with ways to speedily identify allocation in the new year.
>> Our process revolves around the secure storage lockers and asset identification at several levels.
>> Most schools would not have these and find other secure locations and tagging processes from what I have heard.
>> 
>> regards
>> Phil
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Rod Blitvich <rblit at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> Hi MACEDers
>> Those of you who have rolled out 1:1 to students.
>> Do you intend to collect the laptops back before xmas or leave them with the kids?
>> 
>> Massive operation collecting, labelling, storing securely!!, then re-distributing next year.
>> versus
>> Are they going to get looked after at home? Kids that suddenly shift schools without telling you, etc
>> 
>> Phil at JW collects them back.
>> 
>> ta
>> blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich 
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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Wed Nov 23 16:07:39 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:07:39 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
Message-ID: <C54FEBA7-864C-4DC6-929C-9006608AA732@mac.com>

Hello all,
Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
Thanks,
Mike


From mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au  Wed Nov 23 16:17:15 2011
From: mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au (Parker mike)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:17:15 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
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Hi Mike,

We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.

Mike

On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:

> Hello all,
> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
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From corourke at mac.com  Wed Nov 23 16:28:31 2011
From: corourke at mac.com (Chris O'Rourke)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:28:31 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
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It might also be worth having a look at iWork.com
You can share work in a number of formats with others.
I've done it a few times with others who use PCs and it seems to work OK.

hth

Chris

On 23/11/2011, at 4:17 PM, Parker mike wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
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From tyrrell.bradley at me.com  Wed Nov 23 17:15:42 2011
From: tyrrell.bradley at me.com (Bradley Tyrrell)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:15:42 +0800
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <AD8E545E-137F-4429-8D48-E59D126127D0@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
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	<AD8E545E-137F-4429-8D48-E59D126127D0@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
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Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have it natively

Cheers
Brad

Sent from my iPad

On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Wed Nov 23 17:25:23 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:25:23 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <156E3440-35EF-434D-9496-04EF51AA2A02@me.com>
References: <C54FEBA7-864C-4DC6-929C-9006608AA732@mac.com>
	<AD8E545E-137F-4429-8D48-E59D126127D0@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
	<156E3440-35EF-434D-9496-04EF51AA2A02@me.com>
Message-ID: <6BEEDB8B-B61D-48D3-958A-F82A31CA4B1D@mac.com>

Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful, depending on the app.
Mike

On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com> wrote:

> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have it natively
> 
> Cheers
> Brad
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rwhitely at internode.on.net  Thu Nov 24 00:09:05 2011
From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:09:05 +0800
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <6BEEDB8B-B61D-48D3-958A-F82A31CA4B1D@mac.com>
References: <C54FEBA7-864C-4DC6-929C-9006608AA732@mac.com>
	<AD8E545E-137F-4429-8D48-E59D126127D0@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
	<156E3440-35EF-434D-9496-04EF51AA2A02@me.com>
	<6BEEDB8B-B61D-48D3-958A-F82A31CA4B1D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5AB95452-208A-491A-AEFD-036AAAA8A7CE@internode.on.net>

Set up a public, or shared Dropbox. Not sure of free limits though but you can set password security, so long as you don't mind using Web 2 tools and having these copies sitting on a server in the 'cloud'.

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net



On 23/11/2011, at 2:25 pm, Mike Wheadon wrote:

> Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
> Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful, depending on the app.
> Mike
> 
> On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have it natively
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brad
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
>>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au  Thu Nov 24 11:41:00 2011
From: GLENN.SOUTHWELL at det.nsw.edu.au (Southwell, Glenn)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:41:00 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Interwrite on laptop
Message-ID: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5596E0C0F5C@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win>

Brainstrust,
We have an macbook running 10.6.8 and we have some Interwrite boards. When i try to install the Interwrite software the following message comes up,
"JVM not found"
and then it stops...
any ideas or advice out there...


    Glenn Southwell
            at
        The Rail 

Albion Park Rail Public School
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From P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au  Thu Nov 24 11:59:37 2011
From: P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au (Penelope Coutas)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:59:37 +0800
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
References: <C54FEBA7-864C-4DC6-929C-9006608AA732@mac.com><AD8E545E-137F-4429-8D48-E59D126127D0@kambala.nsw.edu.au><156E3440-35EF-434D-9496-04EF51AA2A02@me.com>
	<6BEEDB8B-B61D-48D3-958A-F82A31CA4B1D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <477A8450F426E34DBD5B2E7C6FA82D540B9E1D07@PLUTO.ad.murdoch.edu.au>

Also useful to teach students how to do screen shots for apps that don't have an export feature of some kind :)


-----Original Message-----
From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Mike Wheadon
Sent: Wed 11/23/2011 2:25 PM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
 
Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful, depending on the app.
Mike

On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com> wrote:

> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have it natively
> 
> Cheers
> Brad
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Thu Nov 24 12:02:43 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:02:43 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <477A8450F426E34DBD5B2E7C6FA82D540B9E1D07@PLUTO.ad.murdoch.edu.au>
References: <C54FEBA7-864C-4DC6-929C-9006608AA732@mac.com>
	<AD8E545E-137F-4429-8D48-E59D126127D0@kambala.nsw.edu.au>
	<156E3440-35EF-434D-9496-04EF51AA2A02@me.com>
	<6BEEDB8B-B61D-48D3-958A-F82A31CA4B1D@mac.com>
	<477A8450F426E34DBD5B2E7C6FA82D540B9E1D07@PLUTO.ad.murdoch.edu.au>
Message-ID: <7C97BCE3-463A-433C-B5FF-7CF3592731C4@mac.com>

Thanks Penelope,
Good idea, I'll add that to the mix.
Mike

On 24/11/2011, at 11:59 AM, Penelope Coutas <P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au> wrote:

> Also useful to teach students how to do screen shots for apps that don't have an export feature of some kind :)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Mike Wheadon
> Sent: Wed 11/23/2011 2:25 PM
> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> Subject: Re: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
> 
> Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
> Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful, depending on the app.
> Mike
> 
> On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have it natively
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brad
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to school.
>>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> <winmail.dat>
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au  Thu Nov 24 12:17:33 2011
From: MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au (Maurice Cummins)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:17:33 +0000
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <7C97BCE3-463A-433C-B5FF-7CF3592731C4@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAF3E5A5.1C805%mcummins@monte.nsw.edu.au>

Hi Mike et al,

Webdav def a good way to go. Dropbox is pretty solid too.

Here are two useful sites re iPad implementation. You may have seen them
already.. 

http://www.ipadsforeducation.vic.edu.au/

http://edudemic.com/2011/11/ipad-high-school/

Maurice
Monte

On 24/11/11 12:02 PM, "Mike Wheadon" <mrwheadon at mac.com> wrote:

>Thanks Penelope,
>Good idea, I'll add that to the mix.
>Mike
>
>On 24/11/2011, at 11:59 AM, Penelope Coutas <P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au>
>wrote:
>
>> Also useful to teach students how to do screen shots for apps that
>>don't have an export feature of some kind :)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Mike Wheadon
>> Sent: Wed 11/23/2011 2:25 PM
>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> Subject: Re: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
>> 
>> Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
>> Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful,
>>depending on the app.
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we
>>>use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have
>>>it natively
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Brad
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and
>>>>email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so
>>>>we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students
>>>>years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to
>>>>share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as
>>>>well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is
>>>>called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local
>>>>files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to
>>>>>school.
>>>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get
>>>>>the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how
>>>>>to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> <winmail.dat>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>_______________________________________________
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From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Thu Nov 24 16:05:46 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:05:46 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Scanner
Message-ID: <CAFW-vb4Ta8Po-9mo_qLp8h6MVpgK5Q67=Y=CL5x_ovYjxcL4xQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone

Does anyone use an old Mustek ScanExpress A3 scanner with a Mac. They are
not very good scanners but its all we have until the next budget round. we
don't even have a networkable colour printer!!

What I'm after are drivers for this thing that work with a mac running OSX
10.6.8.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Mark
-- 
Mark Stone
GEMS Royal Dubai School
PO Box 121310
Dubai
United Arab Emirates
Tel:  +971 4 288 6499
Fax: +971 4 288 6490

*www.royaldubaischool.com*
*www.twitter.com/gemsrds*

*GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1
-Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.*
*
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From larrytay97 at bigpond.com  Thu Nov 24 16:13:19 2011
From: larrytay97 at bigpond.com (Larry Taylor)
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:13:19 +1000
Subject: [Maced] Scanner
In-Reply-To: <CAFW-vb4Ta8Po-9mo_qLp8h6MVpgK5Q67=Y=CL5x_ovYjxcL4xQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFW-vb4Ta8Po-9mo_qLp8h6MVpgK5Q67=Y=CL5x_ovYjxcL4xQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <561A62D2-45EE-4AA9-9442-1BE664778C0B@bigpond.com>

Hi Mark

Try VueScan: http://www.hamrick.com/

http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#mustek

Larry

On 24/11/2011, at 3:05 PM, Mark Stone wrote:

> Hi Everyone
> 
> Does anyone use an old Mustek ScanExpress A3 scanner with a Mac. They are not very good scanners but its all we have until the next budget round. we don't even have a networkable colour printer!!
> 
> What I'm after are drivers for this thing that work with a mac running OSX 10.6.8.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Mark
> -- 
> Mark Stone
> GEMS Royal Dubai School
> PO Box 121310
> Dubai
> United Arab Emirates
> Tel:  +971 4 288 6499
> Fax: +971 4 288 6490
>  
> www.royaldubaischool.com
> www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>  
> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Fri Nov 25 13:29:48 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:29:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <CAF3E5A5.1C805%mcummins@monte.nsw.edu.au>
References: <CAF3E5A5.1C805%mcummins@monte.nsw.edu.au>
Message-ID: <A0869163-E090-4A7D-A01E-DA08E7937DA1@mac.com>

Thanks Maurice and Reg,
I guess too there needs to be some flexibility - eg can't see a way to send Pages files on iPad to Dropbox - so students can email them instead.
Which is good, because there's an option when emailing to export as PDF or Word. Handy when the teacher may not have Pages.

I'd seen the Vic iPad trial site but not the Edudemic one - thanks. Looks like iPad app sites are morphing into mega app collection sites.

Mike

On 24/11/2011, at 12:17 PM, Maurice Cummins <MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Mike et al,
> 
> Webdav def a good way to go. Dropbox is pretty solid too.
> 
> Here are two useful sites re iPad implementation. You may have seen them
> already.. 
> 
> http://www.ipadsforeducation.vic.edu.au/
> 
> http://edudemic.com/2011/11/ipad-high-school/
> 
> Maurice
> Monte
> 
> On 24/11/11 12:02 PM, "Mike Wheadon" <mrwheadon at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Penelope,
>> Good idea, I'll add that to the mix.
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 24/11/2011, at 11:59 AM, Penelope Coutas <P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also useful to teach students how to do screen shots for apps that
>>> don't have an export feature of some kind :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Mike Wheadon
>>> Sent: Wed 11/23/2011 2:25 PM
>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
>>> 
>>> Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
>>> Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful,
>>> depending on the app.
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we
>>>> use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have
>>>> it natively
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Brad
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and
>>>>> email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so
>>>>> we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students
>>>>> years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to
>>>>> share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as
>>>>> well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is
>>>>> called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local
>>>>> files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to
>>>>>> school.
>>>>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get
>>>>>> the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>>>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how
>>>>>> to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> <winmail.dat>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com  Fri Nov 25 15:16:19 2011
From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:16:19 +0400
Subject: [Maced] Scanner
In-Reply-To: <561A62D2-45EE-4AA9-9442-1BE664778C0B@bigpond.com>
References: <CAFW-vb4Ta8Po-9mo_qLp8h6MVpgK5Q67=Y=CL5x_ovYjxcL4xQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<561A62D2-45EE-4AA9-9442-1BE664778C0B@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <34C227E1-5BAD-4DA5-B2C4-09788458EA43@gmail.com>

Thanks Larry. I'll give it a try!
Mark

From my iPad

Mark Stone
ICT Learning Coach
GEMS Royal Dubai School

  
 


On 24 Nov 2011, at 09:13 AM, Larry Taylor <larrytay97 at bigpond.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark
> 
> Try VueScan: http://www.hamrick.com/
> 
> http://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/vuescan.htm#mustek
> 
> Larry
> 
> On 24/11/2011, at 3:05 PM, Mark Stone wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone
>> 
>> Does anyone use an old Mustek ScanExpress A3 scanner with a Mac. They are not very good scanners but its all we have until the next budget round. we don't even have a networkable colour printer!!
>> 
>> What I'm after are drivers for this thing that work with a mac running OSX 10.6.8.
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Mark
>> -- 
>> Mark Stone
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School
>> PO Box 121310
>> Dubai
>> United Arab Emirates
>> Tel:  +971 4 288 6499
>> Fax: +971 4 288 6490
>>  
>> www.royaldubaischool.com
>> www.twitter.com/gemsrds
>>  
>> GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From rblit at iinet.net.au  Sat Nov 26 20:46:50 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:46:50 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Connecetd Classroom video - New Version???
Message-ID: <BF058065-3348-4AA0-9A2B-250F8F09176A@iinet.net.au>

Hi Guys
thsi is the 2007 version
http://theconnectedclassroom.wikispaces.com/

is there a more recent one?
ta
blitto





Rod Blitvich 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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From gaturnbull at me.com  Sun Nov 27 18:05:00 2011
From: gaturnbull at me.com (Greg Turnbull)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:05:00 +1100
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
Message-ID: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>

Dear All

I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to 2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly appreciated.

I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go for the 2TB if the above true.

Many Thanks in advance

Cheers
Greg

Greg Turnbull
Principal
Blairmount Public School
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From garry at gstokes.org  Sun Nov 27 18:12:18 2011
From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:12:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
In-Reply-To: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
References: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
Message-ID: <CANpmFVv0wm3e-op=snufPTVh_2XsYBbqGhJbZY5BoRFxKXPLtA@mail.gmail.com>

even if this were true, could you not partition the drive?
dont have lion or a 3T drive to test sorry

On 27 November 2011 18:05, Greg Turnbull <gaturnbull at me.com> wrote:
> Dear All
>
> I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to 2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly appreciated.
>
> I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go for the 2TB if the above true.
>
> Many Thanks in advance
>
> Cheers
> Greg
>
> Greg Turnbull
> Principal
> Blairmount Public School
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>
>


From larrytay97 at bigpond.com  Sun Nov 27 18:36:17 2011
From: larrytay97 at bigpond.com (Larry Taylor)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:36:17 +1000
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
In-Reply-To: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
References: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
Message-ID: <A163873B-E836-4BE0-8C42-79CC4DA214A8@bigpond.com>

Hi greg

I found the easiest way was to visit various hard drives manufacturers and see what they offer for Mac.

The all have drives of 3TB and some larger.

Larry

Western Digital
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/external/desktopformac/

LaCie
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10341

Seagate
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-au/products/external/mac-hard-drive/


On 27/11/2011, at 5:05 PM, Greg Turnbull wrote:

> Dear All
> 
> I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to 2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly appreciated.
> 
> I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go for the 2TB if the above true.
> 
> Many Thanks in advance
> 
> Cheers
> Greg
> 
> Greg Turnbull
> Principal
> Blairmount Public School_______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From steweyau at gmail.com  Sun Nov 27 18:54:48 2011
From: steweyau at gmail.com (Greg Stewart)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:54:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
In-Reply-To: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
References: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAMXmOdYtc4bqeTnm5tsA5b_5nJMKJ6aExoEdZM0bSyQsm5YbHg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure how they work but there's a 3 TB time capsule now

Greg
Buronga

On Sunday, 27 November 2011, Greg Turnbull <gaturnbull at me.com> wrote:
> Dear All
>
> I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to
2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly
appreciated.
>
> I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go
for the 2TB if the above true.
>
> Many Thanks in advance
>
> Cheers
> Greg
>
> Greg Turnbull
> Principal
> Blairmount Public School
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From rhysted at mac.com  Sun Nov 27 19:05:04 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:05:04 +1100
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
In-Reply-To: <CAMXmOdYtc4bqeTnm5tsA5b_5nJMKJ6aExoEdZM0bSyQsm5YbHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
	<CAMXmOdYtc4bqeTnm5tsA5b_5nJMKJ6aExoEdZM0bSyQsm5YbHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2149CF38-C7F9-4E46-8DB2-29B5FE0E2E70@mac.com>

A quick search shows mixed results. Certainly my 2TB drives work. If it doesn't work, just partition it. RAID type externals such as the Drobo would total well in excess of 3TB. 

Rod

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School
Ph: 613 5962 4053

Sent from Rod's iPad 2

On 27/11/2011, at 6:54 PM, Greg Stewart <steweyau at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure how they work but there's a 3 TB time capsule now
> 
> Greg
> Buronga
> 
> On Sunday, 27 November 2011, Greg Turnbull <gaturnbull at me.com> wrote:
> > Dear All
> >
> > I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to 2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go for the 2TB if the above true.
> >
> > Many Thanks in advance
> >
> > Cheers
> > Greg
> >
> > Greg Turnbull
> > Principal
> > Blairmount Public School
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au  Sun Nov 27 19:39:00 2011
From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:39:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Maced] Wikipedia
In-Reply-To: <9DD373DB-70AF-4884-90A4-27714470F40C@gmail.com>
References: <CANsaPWZ1Yq45SH5WHJnKJiTBORE79v1u0ffvQbt96b5-h0AuPg@mail.gmail.com>
	<9DD373DB-70AF-4884-90A4-27714470F40C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1322383140.99971.YahooMailNeo@web112616.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Apologies for cross posting.
Most of us use, and treasure, Wikipedia.
If you can afford it, it's well worth clicking on the donate button.
If every user gave them a few dollars via PayPal, it would help ensure the whole thing stays ad free.

Cheers
Dave
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From jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au  Sun Nov 27 20:05:48 2011
From: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au (James Humberstone, MLC School)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:05:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
In-Reply-To: <A163873B-E836-4BE0-8C42-79CC4DA214A8@bigpond.com>
References: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
	<A163873B-E836-4BE0-8C42-79CC4DA214A8@bigpond.com>
Message-ID: <96F40679-1953-4ED3-87DC-76F78D5BE5BB@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au>

I'm sure I remember using a >2TB drive with Snow Leopard, so I would have thought that Lion would definitely have no problem. Unfortunately, all my drives at home are 2GB so I can't actually confirm.

JH

On 27/11/2011, at 6:36 PM, Larry Taylor wrote:

> Hi greg
> 
> I found the easiest way was to visit various hard drives manufacturers and see what they offer for Mac.
> 
> The all have drives of 3TB and some larger.
> 
> Larry
> 
> Western Digital
> http://www.wdc.com/en/products/external/desktopformac/
> 
> LaCie
> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10341
> 
> Seagate
> http://www.seagate.com/www/en-au/products/external/mac-hard-drive/
> 
> 
> On 27/11/2011, at 5:05 PM, Greg Turnbull wrote:
> 
>> Dear All
>> 
>> I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to 2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go for the 2TB if the above true.
>> 
>> Many Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Greg
>> 
>> Greg Turnbull
>> Principal
>> Blairmount Public School_______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 





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From rhysted at mac.com  Sun Nov 27 20:32:54 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:32:54 +1100
Subject: [Maced] OS X Lion and External HDD Question
In-Reply-To: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
References: <334540A4-98D5-425E-9F98-EEFB9BD75ADC@me.com>
Message-ID: <4C45E586-7506-4F2E-A3AD-D868EF90DDA7@mac.com>

Oh yeah, I forgot it appears that using the GUID partition map is better.

Rod

Rod Hysted
Assistant Principal
Healesville Primary School

View St, Healesville 3777

PO Box 222, Healesville 3777

Phone: 613 5962 4053
Fax: 613 5962 6201



On 27/11/2011, at 6:05 PM, Greg Turnbull wrote:

Dear All

I have heard a rumour that OS X Lion can only handle external HDDs up to 2TB. Can anyone please confirm or deny this - your advice is greatly appreciated.

I am interested in a WD 3TB with FireWire and USB connection, but will go for the 2TB if the above true.

Many Thanks in advance

Cheers
Greg

Greg Turnbull
Principal
Blairmount Public School_______________________________________________
Maced mailing list
Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From kooper.trooper at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 15:12:41 2011
From: kooper.trooper at gmail.com (Joel Cooper)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:12:41 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <A0869163-E090-4A7D-A01E-DA08E7937DA1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CAF95569.1D397%kooper.trooper@gmail.com>

Mike - when evaluating iOS apps, keep an eye out for "Open In..." support.
This means that the app has the capability of sharing files with other apps.
In contrast, many apps will only give you the option for the online services
they want to support.

Also, an app we use in-house to have our staff iPads access our Active
Directory shares is mobilEcho by GroupLogic.
http://www.grouplogic.com/enterprise-file-sharing/ipad-file-system/

If for instance I wrote a report on my iPad using Docs to Go, I could then
select "Open In..." and select mobileEcho from the pop-up menu. If I were to
then later work from my laptop or iPhone, I could access the file and keep
working - the file being stored on a server here in our office.

Cheers,

Joel Cooper
CompNow
 

> Thanks Maurice and Reg,
> I guess too there needs to be some flexibility - eg can't see a way to send
> Pages files on iPad to Dropbox - so students can email them instead.
> Which is good, because there's an option when emailing to export as PDF or
> Word. Handy when the teacher may not have Pages.
> 
> I'd seen the Vic iPad trial site but not the Edudemic one - thanks. Looks like
> iPad app sites are morphing into mega app collection sites.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 24/11/2011, at 12:17 PM, Maurice Cummins <MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike et al,
>> 
>> Webdav def a good way to go. Dropbox is pretty solid too.
>> 
>> Here are two useful sites re iPad implementation. You may have seen them
>> already.. 
>> 
>> http://www.ipadsforeducation.vic.edu.au/
>> 
>> http://edudemic.com/2011/11/ipad-high-school/
>> 
>> Maurice
>> Monte
>> 
>> On 24/11/11 12:02 PM, "Mike Wheadon" <mrwheadon at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Penelope,
>>> Good idea, I'll add that to the mix.
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 24/11/2011, at 11:59 AM, Penelope Coutas <P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Also useful to teach students how to do screen shots for apps that
>>>> don't have an export feature of some kind :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Mike Wheadon
>>>> Sent: Wed 11/23/2011 2:25 PM
>>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
>>>> Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful,
>>>> depending on the app.
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we
>>>>> use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have
>>>>> it natively
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Brad
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and
>>>>>> email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so
>>>>>> we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students
>>>>>> years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to
>>>>>> share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as
>>>>>> well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is
>>>>>> called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local
>>>>>> files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to
>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get
>>>>>>> the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>>>>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how
>>>>>>> to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Maced mailing list
>>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>>> 
>>>> <winmail.dat>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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> 
> _______________________________________________
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From troberts at acr.net.au  Mon Nov 28 18:29:18 2011
From: troberts at acr.net.au (Tony Roberts)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:29:18 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
Message-ID: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>

Hello All

What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best  
product used

rgds
Tony.
.



From rhysted at mac.com  Mon Nov 28 18:32:04 2011
From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:32:04 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
References: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
Message-ID: <D5167E26-434F-4408-A5F0-CC6A98789E05@mac.com>

I use a barely damp window cloth. 

Regards

Rod

Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S

On 28/11/2011, at 6:29 PM, Tony Roberts <troberts at acr.net.au> wrote:

> Hello All
> 
> What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best product used
> 
> rgds
> Tony.
> .
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Mon Nov 28 19:06:18 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:06:18 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <D5167E26-434F-4408-A5F0-CC6A98789E05@mac.com>
References: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
	<D5167E26-434F-4408-A5F0-CC6A98789E05@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A340F966-BD0C-4072-B555-332418927603@helena.wa.edu.au>

All Mac Laptops come with a black screen cloth. I use that. 

It appears water repellant but I get it to absorb just enough to help clean the screen.

                      Regards,
                      Eugene
                  
On 28/11/2011, at 3:32 PM, Rod Hysted wrote:

> I use a barely damp window cloth. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rod
> 
> Sent from Rod's iPhone 4S
> 
> On 28/11/2011, at 6:29 PM, Tony Roberts <troberts at acr.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hello All
>> 
>> What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best product used
>> 
>> rgds
>> Tony.
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
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From jem at wimmera.com.au  Mon Nov 28 19:41:38 2011
From: jem at wimmera.com.au (John Embury)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:41:38 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
References: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
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On 28/11/2011, at 6:29 PM, Tony Roberts wrote:

> What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best product used

A useful webpage is from Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3226#ipads

Essentially, it's what other people have said - a very slightly damp lint-free cloth.

John
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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Mon Nov 28 19:50:58 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:50:58 +1100
Subject: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
In-Reply-To: <CAF95569.1D397%kooper.trooper@gmail.com>
References: <CAF95569.1D397%kooper.trooper@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5140745B-9194-48FA-A79E-120C3F03C2F3@mac.com>

Thanks Joel,
Will investigate. 
Mike

On 28/11/2011, at 3:12 PM, Joel Cooper <kooper.trooper at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike - when evaluating iOS apps, keep an eye out for "Open In..." support.
> This means that the app has the capability of sharing files with other apps.
> In contrast, many apps will only give you the option for the online services
> they want to support.
> 
> Also, an app we use in-house to have our staff iPads access our Active
> Directory shares is mobilEcho by GroupLogic.
> http://www.grouplogic.com/enterprise-file-sharing/ipad-file-system/
> 
> If for instance I wrote a report on my iPad using Docs to Go, I could then
> select "Open In..." and select mobileEcho from the pop-up menu. If I were to
> then later work from my laptop or iPhone, I could access the file and keep
> working - the file being stored on a server here in our office.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Joel Cooper
> CompNow
> 
> 
>> Thanks Maurice and Reg,
>> I guess too there needs to be some flexibility - eg can't see a way to send
>> Pages files on iPad to Dropbox - so students can email them instead.
>> Which is good, because there's an option when emailing to export as PDF or
>> Word. Handy when the teacher may not have Pages.
>> 
>> I'd seen the Vic iPad trial site but not the Edudemic one - thanks. Looks like
>> iPad app sites are morphing into mega app collection sites.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 24/11/2011, at 12:17 PM, Maurice Cummins <MCummins at monte.nsw.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike et al,
>>> 
>>> Webdav def a good way to go. Dropbox is pretty solid too.
>>> 
>>> Here are two useful sites re iPad implementation. You may have seen them
>>> already.. 
>>> 
>>> http://www.ipadsforeducation.vic.edu.au/
>>> 
>>> http://edudemic.com/2011/11/ipad-high-school/
>>> 
>>> Maurice
>>> Monte
>>> 
>>> On 24/11/11 12:02 PM, "Mike Wheadon" <mrwheadon at mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Penelope,
>>>> Good idea, I'll add that to the mix.
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On 24/11/2011, at 11:59 AM, Penelope Coutas <P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Also useful to teach students how to do screen shots for apps that
>>>>> don't have an export feature of some kind :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Mike Wheadon
>>>>> Sent: Wed 11/23/2011 2:25 PM
>>>>> To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> Cc: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Maced] 'From iPad to Teacher'
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Mike, Chris and Brad,
>>>>> Will investigate WebDAV further. The email option could also be useful,
>>>>> depending on the app.
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 5:15 PM, Bradley Tyrrell <tyrrell.bradley at me.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Totally agree with mike - WebDAV all the way and works perfectly - we
>>>>>> use good reader for our app as a platform if the other apps don't have
>>>>>> it natively
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 1:17 PM, Parker mike <mparker at kambala.nsw.edu.au>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are tackling this more so next year with the use of webdav and
>>>>>>> email.  Some of the programs such as pages have webdav support, so
>>>>>>> we've setup a webdav server (mac osx 10.6 server), all of our students
>>>>>>> years 5 and up and email so the combination may work to allow them to
>>>>>>> share the files they need.  I think some people are using dropbox as
>>>>>>> well and google apps.  The webdav app that we will be using I think is
>>>>>>> called navdav+ which helps with sharing via webdav for some local
>>>>>>> files that ordinarily wouldn't support webdav.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/11/2011, at 4:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> Next year we will have Year 7 students bringing their own iPads to
>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>> Some teachers are asking how the students will be able to easily get
>>>>>>>> the work they do on the iPad to their teacher.
>>>>>>>> If you have students who bring their own or you supply them 1:1, how
>>>>>>>> to you arrange that, or is it a non-issue for you?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Mon Nov 28 19:53:39 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:53:39 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <61D6E26A-9FA6-4A60-81D1-6C8D364118CF@wimmera.com.au>
References: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
	<61D6E26A-9FA6-4A60-81D1-6C8D364118CF@wimmera.com.au>
Message-ID: <5361D4B8-301E-4C67-A365-DA807C81F82E@gmail.com>

Damp clean cloth is good.  I have used those window cleaning clothes vilida I think in a pack one blue and one white to dry. No chems and does a super job.

Sent from my iPad

On 28/11/2011, at 7:41 PM, John Embury <jem at wimmera.com.au> wrote:

> On 28/11/2011, at 6:29 PM, Tony Roberts wrote:
> 
>> What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best product used
> 
> A useful webpage is from Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3226#ipads
> 
> Essentially, it's what other people have said - a very slightly damp lint-free cloth.
> 
> John
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From matt at skoss.org  Tue Nov 29 06:09:59 2011
From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:09:59 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
Message-ID: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>

I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...

Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?

I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.

I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.

Regards, Matt.

From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Tue Nov 29 07:16:34 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:16:34 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
References: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <6D6C64FF-9455-48C3-8852-0666EC30E556@gmail.com>

Hi Matt,
Yes you can do this in keynote on your laptop or desktop.. easy has been a feature from the start.

Cheers from Jenny

Sent from my iPad

On 29/11/2011, at 6:09 AM, Matt Skoss <matt at skoss.org> wrote:

> I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
> 
> Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?
> 
> I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.
> 
> I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced


From djones at scotch.sa.edu.au  Tue Nov 29 08:25:39 2011
From: djones at scotch.sa.edu.au (David Jones)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:55:39 +1030
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <CAFA3FB2.8CF3%djones@scotch.sa.edu.au>

Matt
Why not just use Quick Look, although I don't know if it can be controlled
with a clicker.
David
Scotch Adelaide

On 29/11/11 5:39 AM, "Matt Skoss" <matt at skoss.org> wrote:

>I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
>
>Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card,
>without involving iPhoto?
>
>I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control
>available via a remote clicker.
>
>I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where
>every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is
>possible in Keynote.
>
>Regards, Matt.
>_______________________________________________
>Maced mailing list
>Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced




From mrwheadon at mac.com  Tue Nov 29 08:46:44 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:46:44 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
References: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <2BB587FE-DBBF-4BDA-AEBA-32C4DF744E42@mac.com>

Here's a link to a pdf with a lot of Keynote tips, including the one you're after (on the second page):
http://www.jumsoft.com/pdf/Tips%20&%20Tricks%20Keynote.pdf

'Have a folder of photos and want to make a Keynote presentation with one photo per slide? Simply open the folder in the Finder, select them all, and drag the whole pack onto the slide list on the left hand side of the Keynote window. All your photos will be automatically imported and split into separate slides.'

Mike
On 29/11/2011, at 6:09 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
> 
> Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?
> 
> I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.
> 
> I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au  Tue Nov 29 08:56:48 2011
From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:56:48 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
References: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <AD76846F-506E-4646-9ADB-61739306191F@mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au>

Good morning Matt,

I have an Eye-Fi card which is an SD card that has Wi-fi capabilities.  Basically you setup the card to the Wireless network and pair it with your computer.  Then whenever you take a photo it is instantly transferred over the wireless to the computer - and can be saved directly to a folder or imported to iPhoto or even uploaded and shared on Flickr or Facebook etc.

Has pretty good Mac compatibility and works well.  Not sure if this is something you may be interested in.

http://www.eye.fi/ 

This way the photos are automatically in a folder on the computer and you can drag them into Keynote etc
_________________________
Sam Osborne
IT Technician
MacKillop College
t : 02 6338 2200
www.mkc.nsw.edu.au

On 29/11/2011, at 6:09 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
> 
> Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?
> 
> I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.
> 
> I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced



From rblit at iinet.net.au  Tue Nov 29 09:26:53 2011
From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:26:53 +0800
Subject: [Maced] iDrive, iArm
Message-ID: <5B073EAC-A35D-4F38-AE1E-8083572181D8@iinet.net.au>


The iDrive is a mobile device mount that can hold an iPad, Kindle, or other tech device on the steering wheel of your car, while the innovative iArm makes it simple to hold an iPad, a steaming mug of coffee, and your iPhone all at the same time.

put the car on crusie control and fire up your iPad entertainment

wink

http://t.co/XjiriEXF 

blitto


Rod Blitvich 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
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From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Tue Nov 29 09:46:30 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:46:30 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
References: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
Message-ID: <32DACAB6-7EC3-407C-A0E3-FDDCBD0CC66F@helena.wa.edu.au>

The easiest way is to simply open in Preview which has a built in slight show. (Under view/slideshow or command+shift_f)


Yours sincerely,

Eugene de Gouw
Helena College Senior School


PO Box 52
Glen Forrest 
Western Australia 6071

www.helenacollege.wa.edu.au

PH: : +618 9298 9100
FAX: : +618 9298 8616

You have received this e-mail as your child is a member of this class and I wish to keep you informed of important information or events. 
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On 29/11/2011, at 3:09 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:

> I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
> 
> Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?
> 
> I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.
> 
> I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.
> 
> Regards, Matt.
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced

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From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au  Tue Nov 29 09:50:33 2011
From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:50:33 +0800
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <32DACAB6-7EC3-407C-A0E3-FDDCBD0CC66F@helena.wa.edu.au>
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	<32DACAB6-7EC3-407C-A0E3-FDDCBD0CC66F@helena.wa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <C56D3656-3898-4734-BF80-CA97F54AD155@helena.wa.edu.au>

Ooops 

.........built in slideshow...........



Yours sincerely,

Eugene de Gouw
Helena College Senior School


PO Box 52
Glen Forrest 
Western Australia 6071

www.helenacollege.wa.edu.au

PH: : +618 9298 9100
FAX: : +618 9298 8616

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On 29/11/2011, at 6:46 AM, Eugene wrote:

> The easiest way is to simply open in Preview which has a built in slight show. (Under view/slideshow or command+shift_f)

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From mrwheadon at mac.com  Tue Nov 29 11:40:52 2011
From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:40:52 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Keynote - Making an instant slideshow from photos
In-Reply-To: <32DACAB6-7EC3-407C-A0E3-FDDCBD0CC66F@helena.wa.edu.au>
References: <7C3E05D8-287A-44B8-83A3-90E660EB728E@skoss.org>
	<32DACAB6-7EC3-407C-A0E3-FDDCBD0CC66F@helena.wa.edu.au>
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Great tip, Eugene, I'd missed that one.
Thanks,
Mike
On 29/11/2011, at 9:46 AM, Eugene wrote:

> The easiest way is to simply open in Preview which has a built in slight show. (Under view/slideshow or command+shift_f)
> 
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
> Eugene de Gouw
> Helena College Senior School
> 
> <image.jpg>
> PO Box 52
> Glen Forrest 
> Western Australia 6071
> 
> www.helenacollege.wa.edu.au
> 
> PH: : +618 9298 9100
> FAX: : +618 9298 8616
> 
> You have received this e-mail as your child is a member of this class and I wish to keep you informed of important information or events. 
> If there is a preferred e-mail address or contact person could you respond with these details and I will append my database?
> 
> On 29/11/2011, at 3:09 AM, Matt Skoss wrote:
> 
>> I know it is easy to make an instant slideshow via iPhoto...but...
>> 
>> Can it be done easily with a bunch of photos straight from an SD card, without involving iPhoto?
>> 
>> I would like to have an 'instant' slideshow of  photos, with control available via a remote clicker.
>> 
>> I've seen PC users drag and drop a folder of photos onto PowerPoint where every photo is a single slide occupying the full frame...hoping it is possible in Keynote.
>> 
>> Regards, Matt.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From kel at edugator.net.au  Tue Nov 29 15:14:36 2011
From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:14:36 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
References: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
Message-ID: <20111129151436.17323wfnwchjswu8@webmail.netregistry.net>

A colleague purchased a pack of facewasher sized multi coloured cloths  
from one of those cheap dollar shops - a pack of 6 for about $2 or  
something like that.

They feel a bit like micro fibre - 80% Polyester and 20% Polyamide the  
label says.

They are absolutely brilliant for cleaning computer, iPad, iPhone etc  
screens. The best I have ever used.

No need to dampen, just a quick wipe over and the screen transforms  
from filthy to spotless.

Regards

Kel

sent from my ultra clean screen

---------------------------------------------------


Quoting Tony Roberts <troberts at acr.net.au>:

> Hello All
>
> What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best  
> product used
>
> rgds
> Tony.
> .
>
>
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From Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au  Tue Nov 29 20:13:53 2011
From: Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au (LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College])
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:13:53 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [Maced] Test
Message-ID: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>

Fingers crossed this works and I'll be able to 'post' at last. Been having trouble with the zeus part of the address and our DET guys here say to get rid of it.


Regards, Elaine BS Lennox

ICT Co-ordinator
Canning Vale College
26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155

Tel: 08 9456 7017


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From garry at gstokes.org  Tue Nov 29 20:29:36 2011
From: garry at gstokes.org (garry stokes)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:29:36 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Test
In-Reply-To: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>
References: <6634260.1322558033848.JavaMail.oracle@mllx-ap15.det.wa.edu.au>
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it worked

On 29 November 2011 20:13, LENNOX Elaine [Canning Vale College]
<Elaine.Lennox at det.wa.edu.au> wrote:
> Fingers crossed this works and I'll be able to 'post' at last. Been having
> trouble with the zeus part of the address and our DET guys here say to get
> rid of it.
>
> Regards, Elaine BS Lennox
>
> ICT Co-ordinator
> Canning Vale College
> 26 Dumbarton Rd. Canning Vale WA 6155
>
> Tel: 08 9456 7017
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
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>


From wazmac at me.com  Wed Nov 30 06:24:30 2011
From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:24:30 +1100
Subject: [Maced] Screen Cleaner
In-Reply-To: <20111129151436.17323wfnwchjswu8@webmail.netregistry.net>
References: <6825927B-0010-473D-8FC4-D5BC566D458E@acr.net.au>
	<20111129151436.17323wfnwchjswu8@webmail.netregistry.net>
Message-ID: <F6075EDA-9247-473A-83FD-8A1713B200BC@me.com>

Maybe try this?.

It's free!

http://bit.ly/uOM3MV


Warren




On 29/11/2011, at 3:14 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote:

> A colleague purchased a pack of facewasher sized multi coloured cloths from one of those cheap dollar shops - a pack of 6 for about $2 or something like that.
> 
> They feel a bit like micro fibre - 80% Polyester and 20% Polyamide the label says.
> 
> They are absolutely brilliant for cleaning computer, iPad, iPhone etc screens. The best I have ever used.
> 
> No need to dampen, just a quick wipe over and the screen transforms from filthy to spotless.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Kel
> 
> sent from my ultra clean screen
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> Quoting Tony Roberts <troberts at acr.net.au>:
> 
>> Hello All
>> 
>> What do most people use to clean iPad screens, or what is the best product used
>> 
>> rgds
>> Tony.
>> .
>> 
>> 
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From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au  Wed Nov 30 07:21:27 2011
From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:21:27 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iDrive, iArm
In-Reply-To: <5B073EAC-A35D-4F38-AE1E-8083572181D8@iinet.net.au>
References: <5B073EAC-A35D-4F38-AE1E-8083572181D8@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <549C9D2A-9741-408C-A916-92FDFFC47AB3@optusnet.com.au>

I want one blitto

On 29/11/2011, at 9:26 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:

> 
> The iDrive is a mobile device mount that can hold an iPad, Kindle, or other tech device on the steering wheel of your car, while the innovative iArm makes it simple to hold an iPad, a steaming mug of coffee, and your iPhone all at the same time.
> 
> put the car on crusie control and fire up your iPad entertainment
> 
> wink
> 
> http://t.co/XjiriEXF 
> 
> blitto
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>  http://web.me.com/blitto
> 
> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
> 
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From ashbyjj at gmail.com  Wed Nov 30 07:26:07 2011
From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:26:07 +1100
Subject: [Maced] iDrive, iArm
In-Reply-To: <549C9D2A-9741-408C-A916-92FDFFC47AB3@optusnet.com.au>
References: <5B073EAC-A35D-4F38-AE1E-8083572181D8@iinet.net.au>
	<549C9D2A-9741-408C-A916-92FDFFC47AB3@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <2DE7329B-CCF5-4A82-A970-D40EDF9168E4@gmail.com>

Is it just me? I feel a bit nervous if people will drive around with their iPads reading while driving. Phones are also already a huge distraction to drivers. Are they legal?

Cheers from Jenny


Sent from my iPad

On 30/11/2011, at 7:21 AM, John Akhurst <johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> I want one blitto
> 
> On 29/11/2011, at 9:26 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The iDrive is a mobile device mount that can hold an iPad, Kindle, or other tech device on the steering wheel of your car, while the innovative iArm makes it simple to hold an iPad, a steaming mug of coffee, and your iPhone all at the same time.
>> 
>> put the car on crusie control and fire up your iPad entertainment
>> 
>> wink
>> 
>> http://t.co/XjiriEXF 
>> 
>> blitto
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich 
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>>  http://web.me.com/blitto
>> 
>> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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From cwhee15 at eq.edu.au  Wed Nov 30 07:58:18 2011
From: cwhee15 at eq.edu.au (WHEELER Cathy)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:58:18 +1000
Subject: [Maced] iDrive, iArm
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Message-ID: <131A058B5B6446E88E2F32197B3FD16C@mtn.eq.edu.au>

Will it also fill up the tank, wash the car and take itself for a service...
 
winking back at you. 
 

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Goodna Special School 
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From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On
Behalf Of Ashby Jenny
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011 6:26 AM
To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Maced] iDrive, iArm


Is it just me? I feel a bit nervous if people will drive around with their
iPads reading while driving. Phones are also already a huge distraction to
drivers. Are they legal?

Cheers from Jenny


Sent from my iPad

On 30/11/2011, at 7:21 AM, John Akhurst <johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au> wrote:



I want one blitto 

On 29/11/2011, at 9:26 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:



The iDrive is a mobile device mount that can hold an iPad, Kindle, or other
tech device on the steering wheel of your car, while the innovative iArm
makes it simple to hold an iPad, a steaming mug of coffee, and your iPhone
all at the same time.

put the car on crusie control and fire up your iPad entertainment

wink

http://t.co/XjiriEXF
<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FXjiriEXF&h=iAQHKQAJ0AQF
_BLo0hGh0enLHFEPbsnvgVXx8s7RPAnuoUw>   


blitto





Rod Blitvich 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 0409 681 256  
 rblit at iinet.net.au 
  <http://web.mac.com/blitto> http://web.me.com/blitto


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From rwhitely at internode.on.net  Wed Nov 30 23:01:41 2011
From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:01:41 +0800
Subject: [Maced] iDrive, iArm
In-Reply-To: <2DE7329B-CCF5-4A82-A970-D40EDF9168E4@gmail.com>
References: <5B073EAC-A35D-4F38-AE1E-8083572181D8@iinet.net.au>
	<549C9D2A-9741-408C-A916-92FDFFC47AB3@optusnet.com.au>
	<2DE7329B-CCF5-4A82-A970-D40EDF9168E4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7020603B-DADA-4C6B-AF88-8DFEBF4D554A@internode.on.net>

Read the not so fine print at the bottom of the page Jenny ;-)

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net



On 30/11/2011, at 4:26 am, Ashby Jenny wrote:

> Is it just me? I feel a bit nervous if people will drive around with their iPads reading while driving. Phones are also already a huge distraction to drivers. Are they legal?
> 
> Cheers from Jenny
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 30/11/2011, at 7:21 AM, John Akhurst <johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> I want one blitto
>> 
>> On 29/11/2011, at 9:26 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The iDrive is a mobile device mount that can hold an iPad, Kindle, or other tech device on the steering wheel of your car, while the innovative iArm makes it simple to hold an iPad, a steaming mug of coffee, and your iPhone all at the same time.
>>> 
>>> put the car on crusie control and fire up your iPad entertainment
>>> 
>>> wink
>>> 
>>> http://t.co/XjiriEXF 
>>> 
>>> blitto
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich 
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>  rblit at iinet.net.au 
>>>  http://web.me.com/blitto
>>> 
>>> <ADE_Logo_gray.jpg>
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maced mailing list
>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Maced mailing list
>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced
> _______________________________________________
> Maced mailing list
> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au
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