From glenryan at me.com Thu Sep 1 18:38:12 2011 From: glenryan at me.com (Glen Ryan) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:38:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] password changing In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF5450F357225@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> Message-ID: Give access to every teacher and then show them how. When students are sent to you send them back with a note saying your teacher can do this. Cheers Glen On 31/08/11 10:03 PM, "Southwell, Glenn" wrote: >Is there schools out there where each teacher is given EMU clearance so >as to change their own class passwords ? >or >am i better off doing it all (all 420 of them) > > Glenn Southwell > at > The Rail > >Albion Park Rail Public School >________________________________________ >From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On >Behalf Of Norris, Greg [Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au] >Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:12 PM >To: 'maced at zeus.as.edu.au' >Subject: Re: [Maced] password changing > >********************************************************************** >WARNING > >This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the >content of the >email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal >information >like your username, password, email address or other information. > >Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or >content. > >Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking >for >your DET User ID or password. > >For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see >the Department's Intranet site at: >https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm > >********************************************************************** >Any staff member can be allocated the ability to change a student's >Portal password. This is done by the principal or delegate through AMU in >Portal. > >Greg > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] >On Behalf Of Southwell, Glenn >Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2011 3:00 PM >To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au >Subject: [Maced] password changing > >Can standard staff change children's passwords? >If so how? > > > > Glenn Southwell > at > The Rail > >Albion Park Rail Public School >********************************************************************** >This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >********************************************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Maced mailing list >Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >********************************************************************** >This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >********************************************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Maced mailing list >Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >********************************************************************** >This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >********************************************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Maced mailing list >Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 2 18:29:24 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:29:24 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Iweb Message-ID: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> I have been updating our intranet . I resurrected images from 2000 , 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 etc I then created a user called Photos00, Photos01, Photos02, Photos03, Photos04 etc Logging onto each user I dragged the images into iPhoto and created albums. I then created a web site for Photos00 using iWeb and publishing to a local folder by browsing to the sites folder. This resulted with the address below. http://server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/~photos00/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html All went well with a number of users by following the same procedure above. However after creating the user Photos04 and doing as I had done previously I get this address file:///Network/Servers/server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/Volumes/Data/t_home/photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html when I expected to get this http://server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/~photos04/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html Trying to link from the Intranet user's webpage wouldn't happen. I noticed that when publishing to the local folder, in user Photos04, when i navigated to the sites folder it was creating this folder address Volumes/Data/t_home/photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html when it should have been something like this photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html I have deleted the local folder address and redone the browse for the sites folder but still keep getting Volumes/data/t_home etc. I am thinking of deleting the user Photos04 and starting again Any ideas Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rblit at iinet.net.au Fri Sep 2 19:45:16 2011 From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 17:45:16 +0800 Subject: [Maced] What Price for Used Macbooks? Message-ID: <1DAF8A8F-5D20-49EB-9147-4D196D0AA98F@iinet.net.au> Hi Guys My school might need to "buy back" some parent owned macbooks. One lot were new in Feb 2010 - so are now 19 months old The other lot are 7 months old. Please can anyone give me an idea as to what they are worth? I am thinking $500 for the 19 month ones? ta Blitto Rod Blitvich . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rblit at iinet.net.au http://web.me.com/blitto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ADE_Logo_gray.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32792 bytes Desc: not available URL: From corourke at mac.com Fri Sep 2 20:07:42 2011 From: corourke at mac.com (Chris O'Rourke) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:07:42 +1000 Subject: [Maced] What Price for Used Macbooks? In-Reply-To: <1DAF8A8F-5D20-49EB-9147-4D196D0AA98F@iinet.net.au> References: <1DAF8A8F-5D20-49EB-9147-4D196D0AA98F@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <175307EA-F16A-4B56-A965-39C21B171576@mac.com> Hi Blitto This might help http://www.mac2sell.net/index.au.php Chris On 02/09/2011, at 7:45 PM, Rod Blitvich wrote: > Hi Guys > My school might need to "buy back" some parent owned macbooks. > One lot were new in Feb 2010 - so are now 19 months old > The other lot are 7 months old. > > Please can anyone give me an idea as to what they are worth? > I am thinking $500 for the 19 month ones? > > ta > Blitto > > > > > Rod Blitvich > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > 0409 681 256 > rblit at iinet.net.au > http://web.me.com/blitto > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From wazmac at me.com Sat Sep 3 06:45:46 2011 From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough) Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 06:45:46 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Victorian Teacher Notebook Scandal Message-ID: Interesting post from a Victorian teacher?. http://richlambert.edublogs.org/2011/08/26/victorian-teacher-notebook-scandal/ Not unlike the situation elsewhere though, it seems. Warren From kel at edugator.net.au Sun Sep 4 22:12:15 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:12:15 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Vitualising Windows In-Reply-To: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> References: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> I know this has been done before but not recently. At my office I have only one need to use Windows and that is to access our archaic e-filing system which only works with XP. I have been using BootCamp but am tired if wasting time rebooting for this singular function. On my new computer I was planning on Parallels or VMware? Anyone have a particular preference? Any other alternatives? Thanks Kel From jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au Sun Sep 4 22:56:14 2011 From: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au (James Humberstone, MLC School) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:56:14 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Vitualising Windows In-Reply-To: <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <563731E3-85F8-43EB-8090-6A4A1964CE0A@mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au> Hey Kel, I find them both OK (I have current versions of both), but also both pretty slow when you run a bootcamp partition from within them. If you have the extra HD space, install the OS within the app a second time rather than running from your bootcamp partition. If it's just a simple task it probably won't matter, but it won't be much faster than rebooting anyway, and nothing comes close to Bootcamp for speed in my experience. But you only need that if you're planning to go gaming or video editing, and we all know education is not about games nor any such kind of enjoyment ;) Cheers, James On 04/09/2011, at 10:12 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > I know this has been done before but not recently. > > At my office I have only one need to use Windows and that is to access our archaic e-filing system which only works with XP. > > I have been using BootCamp but am tired if wasting time rebooting for this singular function. > > On my new computer I was planning on Parallels or VMware? > > Anyone have a particular preference? > > Any other alternatives? > > Thanks > > Kel > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > James Humberstone | Composer In Residence | Music MLC School | Rowley Street | BURWOOD | NSW | 2134 | Australia p: +61 2 8741 3136 | f: +61 2 9745 3254 | | e: jhumberstone at mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au | www.mlcsyd.nsw.edu.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email (including any attachments) is confidential. 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URL: From ashbyjj at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 08:04:53 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:04:53 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Vitualising Windows In-Reply-To: <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <5F6661DC-F718-4AE6-90DF-FA473C859F6E@gmail.com> We use virtual box. Cheers from Jenny Sent from my iPad On 04/09/2011, at 10:12 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > I know this has been done before but not recently. > > At my office I have only one need to use Windows and that is to access our archaic e-filing system which only works with XP. > > I have been using BootCamp but am tired if wasting time rebooting for this singular function. > > On my new computer I was planning on Parallels or VMware? > > Anyone have a particular preference? > > Any other alternatives? > > Thanks > > Kel > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From martin at levins.net Mon Sep 5 08:12:25 2011 From: martin at levins.net (Martin Levins) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:12:25 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Vitualising Windows In-Reply-To: <5F6661DC-F718-4AE6-90DF-FA473C859F6E@gmail.com> References: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> <5F6661DC-F718-4AE6-90DF-FA473C859F6E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <543DB7CF-CA5C-4455-B5CF-8BF8202A4F6B@levins.net> Ditto re Virtual box here Get from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads Very easy to use, fast and effectively the same as the others, (but can't use a bootcamp partition) Always worthwhile to put a bit more RAM in if using these sorts of things. Recommend 4GB min Cheers Martin On 05/09/2011, at 8:04 AM, Ashby Jenny wrote: > We use virtual box. > > Cheers from Jenny > > Sent from my iPad > > On 04/09/2011, at 10:12 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > >> I know this has been done before but not recently. >> >> At my office I have only one need to use Windows and that is to access our archaic e-filing system which only works with XP. >> >> I have been using BootCamp but am tired if wasting time rebooting for this singular function. >> >> On my new computer I was planning on Parallels or VMware? >> >> Anyone have a particular preference? >> >> Any other alternatives? >> >> Thanks >> >> Kel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sun Sep 4 18:15:42 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 18:15:42 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Iweb In-Reply-To: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> References: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: We use iphoto to create webpages of our pics and then save to a shared folder where I move them to admin access web folder on server and link to an index page. This is then seen by the school in any user on a browser with the IP number for server. Works easy and the webpages look great, Cheers from Jenny Ashby Leading Teacher ICT Specialist and Administrator ICT Peer Coach Epsom Primary School Victoria Australia ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 Slide2learn founding and team member twitter jjash fring jjash skype jenashby My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au On 02/09/2011, at 6:29 PM, Jim Carney wrote: > I have been updating our intranet . > > I resurrected images from 2000 , 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 etc > > I then created a user called Photos00, Photos01, Photos02, Photos03, Photos04 etc > > Logging onto each user I dragged the images into iPhoto and created albums. > > I then created a web site for Photos00 using iWeb and publishing to a local folder by browsing to the sites folder. > This resulted with the address below. > > http://server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/~photos00/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html > > All went well with a number of users by following the same procedure above. > > However after creating the user Photos04 and doing as I had done previously I get this address > > file:///Network/Servers/server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/Volumes/Data/t_home/photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html > > when I expected to get this > > http://server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/~photos04/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html > > Trying to link from the Intranet user's webpage wouldn't happen. > > I noticed that when publishing to the local folder, in user Photos04, when i navigated to the sites folder it was creating this folder address > Volumes/Data/t_home/photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html > > when it should have been something like this > photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html > > I have deleted the local folder address and redone the browse for the sites folder but still keep getting Volumes/data/t_home etc. > > I am thinking of deleting the user Photos04 and starting again > > Any ideas > > > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Jenny Ashby Leading Teacher ICT Specialist and Administrator ICT Peer Coach Epsom Primary School Victoria Australia ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 Slide2learn founding and team member twitter jjash fring jjash skype jenashby My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Works easy and the webpages look great, > > Cheers from > > Jenny Ashby > Leading Teacher > ICT Specialist and Administrator > ICT Peer Coach > Epsom Primary School > Victoria > Australia > > ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 > Slide2learn founding and team member > > twitter jjash > fring jjash > skype jenashby > My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 > > http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au > > On 02/09/2011, at 6:29 PM, Jim Carney wrote: > >> I have been updating our intranet . >> >> I resurrected images from 2000 , 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 etc >> >> I then created a user called Photos00, Photos01, Photos02, Photos03, >> Photos04 etc >> >> Logging onto each user I dragged the images into iPhoto and created >> albums. >> >> I then created a web site for Photos00 using iWeb and publishing to a >> local folder by browsing to the sites folder. >> This resulted with the address below. >> >> http://server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/~photos00/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html >> >> All went well with a number of users by following the same procedure >> above. >> >> However after creating the user Photos04 and doing as I had done >> previously I get this address >> >> file:///Network/Servers/server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/Volumes/Data/t_home/photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html >> >> when I expected to get this >> >> http://server.kiama-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/~photos04/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html >> >> Trying to link from the Intranet user's webpage wouldn't happen. >> >> I noticed that when publishing to the local folder, in user Photos04, >> when i navigated to the sites folder it was creating this folder address >> Volumes/Data/t_home/photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html >> >> when it should have been something like this >> photos04/Sites/Site/2004/2004.html >> >> I have deleted the local folder address and redone the browse for the >> sites folder but still keep getting Volumes/data/t_home etc. >> >> I am thinking of deleting the user Photos04 and starting again >> >> Any ideas >> >> >> Thanks Jim >> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > > Jenny Ashby > Leading Teacher > ICT Specialist and Administrator > ICT Peer Coach > Epsom Primary School > Victoria > Australia > > ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 > Slide2learn founding and team member > > twitter jjash > fring jjash > skype jenashby > My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 > > http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au Mon Sep 5 20:45:19 2011 From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 20:45:19 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Vitualising Windows In-Reply-To: <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <521BAAF7-1B1D-4AC6-872D-2E8BC0899A77@exemail.com.au> <20110904221215.8876299bdzfdexq8@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: Ditto Virtual Box, and it's free. _________________________ Sam Osborne IT Technician MacKillop College t : 02 6338 2200 www.mkc.nsw.edu.au From ian.mclaughlin at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Sep 6 22:27:01 2011 From: ian.mclaughlin at det.nsw.edu.au (McLaughlin, Ian) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 22:27:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Does anyone know what's going on here? Message-ID: <28BF3CAA-A6BF-43D2-8F57-2F84641D1081@det.nsw.edu.au> This happened out of the blue and comes every time I need to enter my user password... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Weird Characters.png Type: image/png Size: 37424 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wazmac at me.com Wed Sep 7 06:18:12 2011 From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 06:18:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Does anyone know what's going on here? In-Reply-To: <28BF3CAA-A6BF-43D2-8F57-2F84641D1081@det.nsw.edu.au> References: <28BF3CAA-A6BF-43D2-8F57-2F84641D1081@det.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <5CA59989-283C-45EB-9E93-7FAD895384B9@me.com> On 06/09/2011, at 10:27 PM, McLaughlin, Ian wrote: > This happened out of the blue and comes every time I need to enter my user password... > Hi Ian, You will need to ?????????????????????????? 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On 07/09/2011, at 6:18 AM, Warren McCullough wrote: > ********************************************************************** > WARNING > > This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information like your username, password, email address or other information. > > Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content. > > Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for your DET User ID or password. > > For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see the Department's Intranet site at: > > https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm > > ********************************************************************** > > > On 06/09/2011, at 10:27 PM, McLaughlin, Ian wrote: > >> This happened out of the blue and comes every time I need to enter my user password... >> > > Hi Ian, > > You will need to ?????????????????????????? > > Warren > > > ********************************************************************** > WARNING > > This warning has been inserted by the DET email system because the content of the > email below appears to be attempting to entice you to provide personal information > like your username, password, email address or other information. > > Do not reply to this email if you are suspicious about its origin or content. > > Please note: The Department will never send you an email message asking for > your DET User ID or password. > > For further information regarding spam and phishing email please see > the Department's Intranet site at: > https://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/it/infosecurity/spam_phish/index.htm > > ********************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We use it for our blogs: http://www.broulee-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/Class_Blogs.html Cheers Dave ________________________________ From: Rod Blitvich To: maced mailing list Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2011 8:30 AM Subject: [Maced] iWeb to Wordpress Received this email ad this morning cheers blitto "Do you have an iWeb blog? As you may already know, Apple will be discontinuing MobileMe very soon which means many features of your blog, including comments, will stop functioning and may be lost forever. Fortunately, we have created an iWeb Blog to WordPress Blog conversion tool for you. This new tool automatically converts your iWeb blog posts and comments to a WordPress blog. If you're not familiar with WordPress, it is one of the most popular and powerful blogging systems available today. Plus, you can get it free with our web hosting options. Watch the step-by-step video tutorial on?Converting your iWeb Blog to a WordPress Blog?(click the 'Video Tutorials' tab to watch)." Rod Blitvich? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .? ?0409 681 256 ? ?rblit at iinet.net.au? ?http://web.me.com/blitto _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ADE_Logo_gray.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32792 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Sep 7 12:07:07 2011 From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:07:07 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Does anyone know what's going on here? In-Reply-To: References: <28BF3CAA-A6BF-43D2-8F57-2F84641D1081@det.nsw.edu.au> <5CA59989-283C-45EB-9E93-7FAD895384B9@me.com> Message-ID: <22AB90BD-42EC-4CE8-93D3-44D986FDBDE8@det.nsw.edu.au> Google Translate thinks the original message was "Learning another language, or to reinstall the system." Call me curious - what caused the original problem? Greg ********************************************************************** On 06/09/2011, at 10:27 PM, McLaughlin, Ian wrote: This happened out of the blue and comes every time I need to enter my user password... ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From ian.mclaughlin at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Sep 7 18:55:28 2011 From: ian.mclaughlin at det.nsw.edu.au (Ian Mclaughlin) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 18:55:28 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Does anyone know what's going on here? In-Reply-To: <22AB90BD-42EC-4CE8-93D3-44D986FDBDE8@det.nsw.edu.au> References: <28BF3CAA-A6BF-43D2-8F57-2F84641D1081@det.nsw.edu.au> <5CA59989-283C-45EB-9E93-7FAD895384B9@me.com> <22AB90BD-42EC-4CE8-93D3-44D986FDBDE8@det.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: Greg, I don't know what caused it - but a couple of days ago I had a bit of a Finder freeze/freakout and it's been running a bit slow and weird since then. A restart didn't fix the strange authentication box but I resolved it when I realised my preferred languages had been populated with many a dialect! All went back to normal when I cleared everything but Australian English from the list. Ian From fscully3 at bigpond.com Thu Sep 8 14:56:01 2011 From: fscully3 at bigpond.com (Ian Greig) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 14:56:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Staffroom printer Message-ID: Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could recommend the best printer to be used in a staffroom. We need one that is laser and has some form of wireless element that would allow MacBooks and laptop pcs to access it. We also need one that you can print from an iPad. Having a scanner/photocopy is an option but not necessary. I can't figure out from the list at Apple which ones are applicable. Ian Greig Monaro High School From fscully3 at bigpond.com Thu Sep 8 15:00:27 2011 From: fscully3 at bigpond.com (Ian Greig) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:00:27 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing Message-ID: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Hi We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. Ian Greig Monaro High School From daveburke82 at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 15:11:40 2011 From: daveburke82 at gmail.com (David Burke) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:11:40 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing In-Reply-To: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: On the app store, look for Apple Remote Desktop. Last time I saw it was $99, before the app store it used to retail for 600 bucks. Dave Burke Sent from my iPhone On 08/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Ian Greig wrote: > Hi > We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. > > Ian Greig > Monaro High School > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From rhysted at mac.com Thu Sep 8 15:25:23 2011 From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:25:23 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Staffroom printer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2851BDBE-7C97-44FD-BF53-FEB1B036D523@mac.com> Ian, If you have a Mac on your network, install Printopia, it acts as a sort of print server for the iPad. That way any printer installed on the Mac will work with the iPad. Regards Rod Rod Hysted Assistant Principal Healesville Primary School View St, Healesville 3777 PO Box 222, Healesville 3777 Phone: 613 5962 4053 Fax: 613 5962 6201 On 08/09/2011, at 2:56 PM, Ian Greig wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could recommend the best printer to be used in a staffroom. We need one that is laser and has some form of wireless element that would allow MacBooks and laptop pcs to access it. We also need one that you can print from an iPad. Having a scanner/photocopy is an option but not necessary. I can't figure out from the list at Apple which ones are applicable. Ian Greig Monaro High School _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From zac.nethery at ntschools.net Thu Sep 8 15:24:38 2011 From: zac.nethery at ntschools.net (Zac Nethery) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 14:54:38 +0930 Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing In-Reply-To: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian Another thing to check if you haven't already, in the sharing options in the system pref's there is a remote management option; you should be able to change access per user and what access users have to other machines and prompt for control etc. I'm not sure if it is the same on Loin though, we still have Snow Leopard. Cheers Zac Nethery Centralian Middle School -----Original Message----- From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ian Greig Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 2:30 PM To: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing Hi We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. Ian Greig Monaro High School _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ashby at epsomps.vic.edu.au Thu Sep 8 15:42:41 2011 From: ashby at epsomps.vic.edu.au (Jenny Ashby) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:42:41 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Staffroom printer In-Reply-To: <2851BDBE-7C97-44FD-BF53-FEB1B036D523@mac.com> References: <2851BDBE-7C97-44FD-BF53-FEB1B036D523@mac.com> Message-ID: We are all printing to the photo copier, a konica minolta laptops, desktops ipads iphones and ipods. Jenny Ashby Leading Teacher ICT Specialist and Administrator ICT Peer Coach Epsom Primary School Victoria Australia ICTEV teacher of the year 2011 Slide2learn founding and team member twitter jjash fring jjash skype jenashby My vRoom http://www.learncentral.org/vroom/enter/14604 http://www.epsomps.vic.edu.au On 08/09/2011, at 3:25 PM, Rod Hysted wrote: > Ian, > > If you have a Mac on your network, install Printopia, it acts as a sort of print server for the iPad. That way any printer installed on the Mac will work with the iPad. > > Regards > > Rod > > Rod Hysted > Assistant Principal > Healesville Primary School > > View St, Healesville 3777 > > PO Box 222, Healesville 3777 > > Phone: 613 5962 4053 > Fax: 613 5962 6201 > > > > On 08/09/2011, at 2:56 PM, Ian Greig wrote: > > Hello all, > > I was wondering if anyone could recommend the best printer to be used in a staffroom. We need one that is laser and has some form of wireless element that would allow MacBooks and laptop pcs to access it. We also need one that you can print from an iPad. Having a scanner/photocopy is an option but not necessary. I can't figure out from the list at Apple which ones are applicable. > > > Ian Greig > Monaro High School > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Zac Nethery Centralian Middle School -----Original Message----- From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ian Greig Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 2:30 PM To: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing Hi We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. Ian Greig Monaro High School _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Mr Chris Stevens St Mary's Catholic School PO Box 363 WELLINGTON NSW 2820 Ph: 68451822 web: http://www.stmaryswell.org.au PLEASE help stop email address harvesting and subsequent spamming and protect your family, friends and yourself. Use BCC when sending to multiple email addresses and also delete old email addresses BEFORE forwarding on emails. Thank you. ________________________________ The contents of this email are confidential. Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please advise immediately by telephone (reverse charges) and then delete/destroy the email and any printed copies. 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I can't figure out from the list at Apple which ones are applicable. > > > Ian Greig > Monaro High School > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at skoss.org Fri Sep 9 04:33:46 2011 From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 04:03:46 +0930 Subject: [Maced] Pages question...Tables that have formula spreadsheets embedded in a Pages document Message-ID: <970B91F9-F793-4AFE-96F2-D0DA2F4A102A@skoss.org> Using Microsoft Excel, spreadsheet formulae can be shown via Control-tilde (~), toggling between the cell values and the formulae. Is it possible to switch between these views, when a Table is inserted into Pages, with spreadsheet formulae used? Otherwise, I have to drop in Excel (yes I know I could use Numbers...) screen shots. Hoping someone can help. Regards, Matt. From martin at levins.net Fri Sep 9 12:32:00 2011 From: martin at levins.net (Martin Levins) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 12:32:00 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing In-Reply-To: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian Check sharing permissions in Syst Prefs I gotta ask though: why the hell is a teacher out the front watching screens like a gaoler? Why isn't he/she working with the kids? Sorry - my b?te noir! Cheers Martin On 08/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Ian Greig wrote: > Hi > We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. > > Ian Greig > Monaro High School > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From hmkachline at acsalaska.net Fri Sep 9 12:43:53 2011 From: hmkachline at acsalaska.net (Harry Kachline) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:43:53 -0800 Subject: [Maced] leasing your computer? Message-ID: Very interesting: Can a teacher choose to lease no computer at all? What is 'viable' in Victoria? Harry M Kachline The pedigree of honey Does not concern the bee; A clover, any time, to him Is aristocracy. ?Emily Dickinson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhysted at mac.com Fri Sep 9 14:45:23 2011 From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:45:23 +1000 Subject: [Maced] leasing your computer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I chose to purchase my own MacBook Pro a number of years ago and salary sacrifice. It has been quite good, but some difficulties due to purchasing the software that was supplied with the DEECD lease. Overall, I would not go back to the lease. The machines are too frustratingly slow, especially towards the end of the lease. In Victoria, DEECD has increased the lease time to 4 years. An age article seemed to suggest that is because that is how long teachers choose to keep them. No, it is because the DEECD can't seem to organise new leases early enough. Regards Rod Rod Hysted Assistant Principal Healesville Primary School Ph: 613 5962 4053 Sent from Rod's iPad 2 On 09/09/2011, at 12:43 PM, Harry Kachline wrote: > Very interesting: > > Can a teacher choose to lease no computer at all? What is 'viable' in Victoria? > > Harry M Kachline > > > > The pedigree of honey > Does not concern the bee; > A clover, any time, to him > Is aristocracy. > ?Emily Dickinson > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kel at edugator.net.au Fri Sep 9 16:21:03 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:21:03 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Music from iPhone In-Reply-To: References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> A colleague has an iPhone 4 which he registered by thru iTunes. That was the last time he synched it. He has collected 140 songs - all legally purchased thru the iTunes Store but directly to his iPhone. He now wants to synch them and copy them back to iTunes. Because he has never synched songs with his iTunes Library, when we check the synch option in iTunes it states that all songs on the iPhone will be deleted and replaced with the iTunes library - which is empty. Obviously he doesn't want to lose all these songs. I'm thinking . . . 1. Like Apps he could probably download them again for free to his library??? but that would take a considerable amount of time. 2. Since the songs have all been purchased from the iTunes Store would they not copy back to iTunes before the synch?? Not game to try this without knowing if this is right. Any suggestions? Thanks Kel From kel at edugator.net.au Fri Sep 9 16:26:57 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:26:57 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Outlook for Mac In-Reply-To: References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20110909162657.19895d8ugpjmhtgc@webmail.netregistry.net> Anyone successfully using Outlook 2011 on Lion 10.7.1 with an Exchange 2010 server? All our PCs have hooked up easily but none of our Macs will connect? Have done everything the manual says to do but to no avail. The desktop version keeps stating that "This certificate is not valid (host name mismatch). Yet the web version of Outlook works fine with the same login details. Is there some secret button press we are missing to make Macs work? Thanks Kel From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au Fri Sep 9 16:38:06 2011 From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:38:06 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Music from iPhone In-Reply-To: <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: There are other programs that do the same thing but I use Senuti (write it backwards...) If there is DRM protected music, burn to audio CD then rip it back Greg On 09/09/2011, at 4:21 PM, wrote: > A colleague has an iPhone 4 which he registered by thru iTunes. That > was the last time he synched it. > > He has collected 140 songs - all legally purchased thru the iTunes > Store but directly to his iPhone. > > He now wants to synch them and copy them back to iTunes. > > Because he has never synched songs with his iTunes Library, when we > check the synch option in iTunes it states that all songs on the > iPhone will be deleted and replaced with the iTunes library - which is > empty. > > Obviously he doesn't want to lose all these songs. > > I'm thinking . . . > > 1. Like Apps he could probably download them again for free to his > library??? but that would take a considerable amount of time. > > 2. Since the songs have all been purchased from the iTunes Store would > they not copy back to iTunes before the synch?? Not game to try this > without knowing if this is right. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Kel > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From esheerin at gmail.com Fri Sep 9 16:40:21 2011 From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:40:21 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Music from iPhone In-Reply-To: <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <007601cc6ebb$5b94cd40$12be67c0$@gmail.com> there is a button/menu command in iTunes to transfer purchases from iPhone - click that before synching Ellen -----Original Message----- From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of kel at edugator.net.au Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 4:21 PM To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Subject: [Maced] Music from iPhone A colleague has an iPhone 4 which he registered by thru iTunes. That was the last time he synched it. He has collected 140 songs - all legally purchased thru the iTunes Store but directly to his iPhone. He now wants to synch them and copy them back to iTunes. Because he has never synched songs with his iTunes Library, when we check the synch option in iTunes it states that all songs on the iPhone will be deleted and replaced with the iTunes library - which is empty. Obviously he doesn't want to lose all these songs. I'm thinking . . . 1. Like Apps he could probably download them again for free to his library??? but that would take a considerable amount of time. 2. Since the songs have all been purchased from the iTunes Store would they not copy back to iTunes before the synch?? Not game to try this without knowing if this is right. Any suggestions? Thanks Kel _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From wazmac at me.com Fri Sep 9 16:41:35 2011 From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough) Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:41:35 +1000 Subject: [Maced] leasing your computer? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2632D652-9264-4FAC-871B-FAD466D89079@me.com> I think I may have posted this earlier in the week - relates to the discussion below?from a Victorian teacher?. http://richlambert.edublogs.org/2011/08/26/victorian-teacher-notebook-scandal/ Warren On 09/09/2011, at 2:45 PM, Rod Hysted wrote: > I chose to purchase my own MacBook Pro a number of years ago and salary sacrifice. It has been quite good, but some difficulties due to purchasing the software that was supplied with the DEECD lease. > > Overall, I would not go back to the lease. The machines are too frustratingly slow, especially towards the end of the lease. In Victoria, DEECD has increased the lease time to 4 years. An age article seemed to suggest that is because that is how long teachers choose to keep them. No, it is because the DEECD can't seem to organise new leases early enough. > > Regards > > Rod > > Rod Hysted > Assistant Principal > Healesville Primary School > Ph: 613 5962 4053 > > Sent from Rod's iPad 2 > > On 09/09/2011, at 12:43 PM, Harry Kachline wrote: > >> Very interesting: >> >> Can a teacher choose to lease no computer at all? What is 'viable' in Victoria? >> >> Harry M Kachline >> >> >> >> The pedigree of honey >> Does not concern the bee; >> A clover, any time, to him >> Is aristocracy. >> ?Emily Dickinson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jocknjo1 at bigpond.com Fri Sep 9 21:55:09 2011 From: jocknjo1 at bigpond.com (Jock Webb) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:55:09 +1000 Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary Message-ID: Quick straw poll. Those of you who work in primary or early secondary (yr 7). Can you please suggest what you think are the five most important bits of gear and/or software that you use in class. Trying to influence people. No office type stuff please, I'm after something different, especially stage 2 and 3. Cheers Jock From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 9 22:14:12 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1315570452.41902.YahooMailNeo@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mac laptop ; broadband ; digital projector or large LCD ?; iWork ; SAM animation.? ________________________________ From: Jock Webb To: Macs in Education Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:55 PM Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary Quick straw poll. Those of you who work in primary or early secondary (yr 7). Can you please suggest what you think are the five most important bits of gear and/or software that you use in class. Trying to influence people. No office type stuff please, I'm after something different, especially stage 2 and 3. Cheers Jock _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glenncw at westnet.com.au Fri Sep 9 22:32:53 2011 From: glenncw at westnet.com.au (Glenn Wilson) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 20:32:53 +0800 Subject: [Maced] Screen sharing In-Reply-To: References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <4EF3FDF9-79CC-448A-9C10-CF31DC30EF8A@westnet.com.au> Hi Martin, There are times when being in the class and working with the students is exactly the way to go. However, there are also times when the teacher needs the ability to share screens to help the student while displaying it on the large screen, IWB or whatever. Using screen sharing as a means of classroom control also has its place. It is worth seeing what the students in your class are doing before they change screens or move to a different application while you come close to them. Glenn Wilson glenncw at westnet.com.au ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup On 09/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, Martin Levins wrote: > Hi Ian > > Check sharing permissions in Syst Prefs > > I gotta ask though: why the hell is a teacher out the front watching screens like a gaoler? Why isn't he/she working with the kids? > > Sorry - my b?te noir! > > Cheers > Martin > > On 08/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Ian Greig wrote: > >> Hi >> We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. >> >> Ian Greig >> Monaro High School >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From rwhitely at internode.on.net Fri Sep 9 22:43:55 2011 From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 20:43:55 +0800 Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Probably bluetooth trackpad but haven't got one yet. Pass around class for pilot and copilot to edit and add to big screen display. ietherpad for collaborative docs, including great homework incentive http://ietherpad.com/ Also mywebspiration, similarly but now not free: http://www.mywebspiration.com/ Just a few, quickly put! Have fun Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net On 09/09/2011, at 7:55 pm, Jock Webb wrote: > Quick straw poll. Those of you who work in primary or early secondary (yr 7). Can you please suggest what you think are the five most important bits of gear and/or software that you use in class. Trying to influence people. > No office type stuff please, I'm after something different, especially stage 2 and 3. > Cheers > Jock > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cant seem to find a version that will work with 10.4 mailing list is very unfriendly ... completely ignore me From P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au Fri Sep 9 23:56:40 2011 From: P.Coutas at murdoch.edu.au (Penelope Coutas) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:56:40 +0800 Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary References: Message-ID: <477A8450F426E34DBD5B2E7C6FA82D540B9E1CD7@PLUTO.ad.murdoch.edu.au> >From a Languages perspective (limited access to tech; no fixed classroom) - Top 5 as a Teacher - Data projector/speakers/dongles - Bluetooth keyboard & mouse - iPad 2 (attendance; apps; anecdotal notes; video; photos; pass around at point of need for stds) - Vimeo Pro subscription (allows to post videos and password protect them) - WiFi 3G dongle (when no WiFi access / for Skype) Top 5 used by Students in class - Xtranormal (http://www.xtranormal.com) subscription/XP - Comic Life - iPads (each teacher in our hub has a 'kit' of 5 atm but hoping to get more next year. 5 not quite enough). Mostly used for video/audio recording and viewing atm. - jogtheweb.com / wiki sites (to keep everything together. We don't have an LMS) - headsets!! Outside of class - Language Perfect (http://www.languageperfect.com) subscription (homework only) - Downloads of target language music (iTunes gift vouchers) Salam, Penny :) -----Original Message----- From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au on behalf of Reg Whitely Sent: Fri 9/9/2011 8:43 PM To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Subject: Re: [Maced] 5 best primary Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Probably bluetooth trackpad but haven't got one yet. Pass around class for pilot and copilot to edit and add to big screen display. ietherpad for collaborative docs, including great homework incentive http://ietherpad.com/ Also mywebspiration, similarly but now not free: http://www.mywebspiration.com/ Just a few, quickly put! Have fun Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net On 09/09/2011, at 7:55 pm, Jock Webb wrote: > Quick straw poll. Those of you who work in primary or early secondary (yr 7). Can you please suggest what you think are the five most important bits of gear and/or software that you use in class. Trying to influence people. > No office type stuff please, I'm after something different, especially stage 2 and 3. > Cheers > Jock > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3803 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 08:36:56 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:36:56 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen In-Reply-To: References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <02B4BD6B-5E3B-435F-893F-F46359D4CBD2@gmail.com> Had the same thought Martin. Must be nice to have all Macs on the same system. We still have some pre intel emacs. On their last legs but still can be used quite successfully. It's hard to let go of old Macs. Sent from my iPad On 09/09/2011, at 12:32 PM, Martin Levins wrote: > Hi Ian > > Check sharing permissions in Syst Prefs > > I gotta ask though: why the hell is a teacher out the front watching screens like a gaoler? Why isn't he/she working with the kids? > > Sorry - my b?te noir! > > Cheers > Martin > > On 08/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Ian Greig wrote: > >> Hi >> We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. >> >> Ian Greig >> Monaro High School >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 08:41:47 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:41:47 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Music from iPhone In-Reply-To: <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> <20110909162103.27635gee7t7j2tgk@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <46C088A2-AE55-417E-955C-880347D82D0F@gmail.com> Hi everyone, Can't you hold down the option or control key and click the device and it says transfer items bought on this device. To this computer. Then you have to authorize the computer for that iTunes account. Go to store menu to authorize, cheers from Jenny Sent from my iPad On 09/09/2011, at 4:21 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > A colleague has an iPhone 4 which he registered by thru iTunes. That was the last time he synched it. > > He has collected 140 songs - all legally purchased thru the iTunes Store but directly to his iPhone. > > He now wants to synch them and copy them back to iTunes. > > Because he has never synched songs with his iTunes Library, when we check the synch option in iTunes it states that all songs on the iPhone will be deleted and replaced with the iTunes library - which is empty. > > Obviously he doesn't want to lose all these songs. > > I'm thinking . . . > > 1. Like Apps he could probably download them again for free to his library??? but that would take a considerable amount of time. > > 2. Since the songs have all been purchased from the iTunes Store would they not copy back to iTunes before the synch?? Not game to try this without knowing if this is right. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > Kel > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From matt at skoss.org Sat Sep 10 09:58:04 2011 From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:28:04 +0930 Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary In-Reply-To: <1315570452.41902.YahooMailNeo@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1315570452.41902.YahooMailNeo@web112608.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Scratch GeoGebra Bluetooth mouse, keyboard, trackpad used with projector...I sometimes add a 2nd mouse Laser pointer iPod Touch/iPhone, with tripod & microphone I removed the IWB in my room. Would push to do the same in a setting involving younger kids. Worth exploring...Apple TV Wish list...class set of iPads Regards Matt Skoss. ---------------------------------- Centralian Senior College PO Box 4856 Alice Springs NT 0871 Phone: 08 8959 5500 Fax: 08 8959 5510 Mobile: 0418 624 631 Email: matt.skoss at ntschools.net Wiki: http://maths-no-fear.wikispaces.com Ning: http://remoteteachers.ning.com Twitter: @matt_skoss ---------------------------------- Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Dave Hounsell wrote: > Mac laptop ; broadband ; digital projector or large LCD ; iWork ; SAM animation. > > From: Jock Webb > To: Macs in Education > Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:55 PM > Subject: [Maced] 5 best primary > > Quick straw poll. Those of you who work in primary or early secondary (yr 7). Can you please suggest what you think are the five most important bits of gear and/or software that you use in class. Trying to influence people. > No office type stuff please, I'm after something different, especially stage 2 and 3. > Cheers > Jock > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicolaclarke at mac.com Sat Sep 10 17:59:29 2011 From: nicolaclarke at mac.com (Nicola Clarke) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 08:59:29 +0100 Subject: [Maced] Screen In-Reply-To: <02B4BD6B-5E3B-435F-893F-F46359D4CBD2@gmail.com> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> <02B4BD6B-5E3B-435F-893F-F46359D4CBD2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8023AACF-72F1-4779-9DA4-4E10B0057035@mac.com> What u need is apple remote desktop, is isn't massively expensive, and can be used with old and new macs, kids like to see there work on the iwb. Know what you mean, it is hard to get rid of older macs.. We are only just getting rid of the emacs in school.. But they have been rolled around about 8 departments! I know macs are more expensive, but considering how long they last, these have been worth the money. From Nicola On 9 Sep 2011, at 23:36, Ashby Jenny wrote: > Had the same thought Martin. Must be nice to have all Macs on the same system. We still have some pre intel emacs. On their last legs but still can be used quite successfully. It's hard to let go of old Macs. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 09/09/2011, at 12:32 PM, Martin Levins wrote: > >> Hi Ian >> >> Check sharing permissions in Syst Prefs >> >> I gotta ask though: why the hell is a teacher out the front watching screens like a gaoler? Why isn't he/she working with the kids? >> >> Sorry - my b?te noir! >> >> Cheers >> Martin >> >> On 08/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Ian Greig wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. >>> >>> Ian Greig >>> Monaro High School >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From martin at levins.net Mon Sep 12 06:32:48 2011 From: martin at levins.net (Martin Levins) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:32:48 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen In-Reply-To: <8023AACF-72F1-4779-9DA4-4E10B0057035@mac.com> References: <59E786FD-7901-4701-A798-25BC886F9D3D@bigpond.com> <02B4BD6B-5E3B-435F-893F-F46359D4CBD2@gmail.com> <8023AACF-72F1-4779-9DA4-4E10B0057035@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi all ARD is a viable solution for management, but if all you want to do is view and/or control another's screen, the Screen Sharing will do the trick (and it's already on your Mac) You can get it by clicking on a device in the "Shared" list in the left hand sidebar, but remember the actual program is in /System/LibraryCoreServices. Make an alias of it in the dock and you're done. In Lion, it creates a "recents" list which makes connectivity easier as you would normally need to enter a fully qualified domain name or an IP address. Of course, you need to set permissions in System Prefs as you would for ARD, but you can leave it with the permissions set so that the user has to give the OK for connection. Nice teaching opportunity there: what if you had control/view set for everyone and your machine could be reached over the internet (the coming of IPv6 will give everyone a specify IP, not a generic NAT one) Secondly, it encourages notions of "I will respect your privacy and ask you for your permission" rather than playing big brother. Lastly, if all you've got as a teacher is that invasion to see if the kids are on task, then you've got a lot to learn about body language (and kids!) Cheers Martin On 10/09/2011, at 5:59 PM, Nicola Clarke wrote: > What u need is apple remote desktop, is isn't massively expensive, and can be used with old and new macs, kids like to see there work on the iwb. Know what you mean, it is hard to get rid of older macs.. We are only just getting rid of the emacs in school.. But they have been rolled around about 8 departments! I know macs are more expensive, but considering how long they last, these have been worth the money. > > From Nicola > > > On 9 Sep 2011, at 23:36, Ashby Jenny wrote: > >> Had the same thought Martin. Must be nice to have all Macs on the same system. We still have some pre intel emacs. On their last legs but still can be used quite successfully. It's hard to let go of old Macs. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 09/09/2011, at 12:32 PM, Martin Levins wrote: >> >>> Hi Ian >>> >>> Check sharing permissions in Syst Prefs >>> >>> I gotta ask though: why the hell is a teacher out the front watching screens like a gaoler? Why isn't he/she working with the kids? >>> >>> Sorry - my b?te noir! >>> >>> Cheers >>> Martin >>> >>> On 08/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Ian Greig wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> We have a room of iMacs with Lion installed. One selling point of our room on previous versions of OSX was that the teacher could sit at their computer and look at other computers with screen sharing. It was an effective way of keeping students on task as well as sharing their work through the IWB. It would appear that on Lion the teacher has to ask permission from the student to hare the screen. Am I missing something really obvious here or is there a better option other than the native screen sharing. >>>> >>>> Ian Greig >>>> Monaro High School >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maced mailing list >>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au Mon Sep 12 23:48:41 2011 From: bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au (Brett Moller) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:41 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad 1 to 1 Message-ID: Hi there, I am looking for some feedback and or formal research or documentation of 1 to 1 iPad programs in the upper elementary/primary school area (10 and 11 year olds). Does anyone have anything they could perhaps share? Thanks, Brett Director of Technology and Curriculum King's Christian College Gold Coast, Australia bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au Phone: 07 5587 7600 (EXT: 4500) Mobile: 0414899849 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From meganaiemma at me.com Tue Sep 13 09:06:30 2011 From: meganaiemma at me.com (Megan) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:06:30 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad 1 to 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try Ade list-serv as well....what about the Vic iPad trial here. Contact jenny ashby or Adam Brice Megs Megan A Iemma meganaiemma at me.com 0403 919 384 http:// web.me.com/meganaiemma Twitter: megsamanda Blogs: http:// meganaiemma.edublogs.org http://mlearncorporate.edublogs.org Sent from my iPad On 12/09/2011, at 11:48 PM, Brett Moller wrote: > Hi there, > > I am looking for some feedback and or formal research or documentation of 1 to 1 iPad programs in the upper elementary/primary school area (10 and 11 year olds). > > Does anyone have anything they could perhaps share? > > Thanks, > > Brett > > Director of Technology and Curriculum > King's Christian College > Gold Coast, Australia > bmoller at kingscollege.qld.edu.au > Phone: 07 5587 7600 (EXT: 4500) > Mobile: 0414899849 > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esheerin at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 09:35:32 2011 From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:35:32 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad 1 to 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002901cc71a4$acb46320$061d2960$@gmail.com> Not sure if they all fit your criteria but was led to these through an ISTE connection: http://innovativescholar.com/2011/03/26/implementing-a-11-ipad-scheme/ http://ipadeducators.ning.com/ has quite a number of articles including http://ipadeducators.ning.com/profiles/blogs/preparing-your-school-for-an https://wcpssios.pbworks.com/w/page/38338024/iPads%20and%20iPods%20in%20the% 20classroom http://appsineducation.blogspot.com/2011/05/implementing-11-ipad-scheme-insi ghts.html http://ipadacademy.com/2010/11/going-one-to-one-with-ipads-learning-on-the-l eading-edge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnaWFRfxD5o and Fraser's blog - http://speirs.org/ Ellen http://www.netbooks.eun.org/web/acer/documents pilots of varying kinds in Europe From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Brett Moller Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011 11:49 PM To: ade at lists.apple.com Cc: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] iPad 1 to 1 Hi there, I am looking for some feedback and or formal research or documentation of 1 to 1 iPad programs in the upper elementary/primary school area (10 and 11 year olds). 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URL: From mallee at mac.com Tue Sep 13 13:03:04 2011 From: mallee at mac.com (Mal Lee) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:03:04 +1000 Subject: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT Message-ID: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> Dear colleagues For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators Cheers Mal Lee Author/educational consultant PO Box 5010 Broulee NSW 2537 Australia http://malleehome.com Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Sep 13 16:10:22 2011 From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:10:22 +1000 Subject: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT In-Reply-To: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> References: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> Message-ID: <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> Very interesting Mal. I've always supported the need for teachers to bring their own ICT to school. Nice to see the realisation in the corporate world. Of course, some IT people will throw up their hands and say that the end of the world is nigh! Greg On 13/09/2011, at 1:03 PM, Mal Lee wrote: > Dear colleagues > > For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 > > Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators > > Cheers > > Mal Lee > > Author/educational consultant > PO Box 5010 Broulee > NSW 2537 Australia > http://malleehome.com > Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From ashbyjj at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 17:12:38 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:12:38 +1000 Subject: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT In-Reply-To: <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> References: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <15331047-F0F1-4621-9260-9EDD3567257E@gmail.com> Hi everyone, I think will will happen everywhere for cost cutting and so we have our own personal devices. Ed also. In VIC its going to happen now with the laptop debacle. Cheers from Jenny Sent from my iPad On 13/09/2011, at 4:10 PM, "Norris, Greg" wrote: > Very interesting Mal. > > I've always supported the need for teachers to bring their own ICT to school. Nice to see the realisation in the corporate world. > > Of course, some IT people will throw up their hands and say that the end of the world is nigh! > > Greg > > > > > On 13/09/2011, at 1:03 PM, Mal Lee wrote: > >> Dear colleagues >> >> For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 >> >> Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators >> >> Cheers >> >> Mal Lee >> >> Author/educational consultant >> PO Box 5010 Broulee >> NSW 2537 Australia >> http://malleehome.com >> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From mrwheadon at mac.com Tue Sep 13 17:54:49 2011 From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:54:49 +1000 Subject: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT In-Reply-To: <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> References: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> Message-ID: <712D0632-C468-42C9-968E-C1E5C6CEF577@mac.com> Yes, some 'empires' will be bypassed with BYOT. Yay to that - it's what so many chn go home to every day anyway. Mike On 13/09/2011, at 4:10 PM, "Norris, Greg" wrote: > Very interesting Mal. > > I've always supported the need for teachers to bring their own ICT to school. Nice to see the realisation in the corporate world. > > Of course, some IT people will throw up their hands and say that the end of the world is nigh! > > Greg > > > > > On 13/09/2011, at 1:03 PM, Mal Lee wrote: > >> Dear colleagues >> >> For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 >> >> Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators >> >> Cheers >> >> Mal Lee >> >> Author/educational consultant >> PO Box 5010 Broulee >> NSW 2537 Australia >> http://malleehome.com >> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From martin at levins.net Tue Sep 13 18:25:13 2011 From: martin at levins.net (Martin Levins) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:25:13 +1000 Subject: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT In-Reply-To: <712D0632-C468-42C9-968E-C1E5C6CEF577@mac.com> References: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> <712D0632-C468-42C9-968E-C1E5C6CEF577@mac.com> Message-ID: Is it more significant that one of qfs core systems was 24 years old and was written in fortran? 24 years is about the same age as the nsw Maths curriculum isn't it? Sent from my shoephone On 13/09/2011, at 17:54, Mike Wheadon wrote: > Yes, some 'empires' will be bypassed with BYOT. Yay to that - it's what so many chn go home to every day anyway. > Mike > > On 13/09/2011, at 4:10 PM, "Norris, Greg" wrote: > >> Very interesting Mal. >> >> I've always supported the need for teachers to bring their own ICT to school. Nice to see the realisation in the corporate world. >> >> Of course, some IT people will throw up their hands and say that the end of the world is nigh! >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> >> On 13/09/2011, at 1:03 PM, Mal Lee wrote: >> >>> Dear colleagues >>> >>> For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 >>> >>> Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mal Lee >>> >>> Author/educational consultant >>> PO Box 5010 Broulee >>> NSW 2537 Australia >>> http://malleehome.com >>> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Wed Sep 14 10:03:21 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT In-Reply-To: References: <909D927A-5E9F-4CDA-BB84-13263F5E753C@mac.com> <103A89B5-EC75-47CB-8206-99CDC6F91148@det.nsw.edu.au> <712D0632-C468-42C9-968E-C1E5C6CEF577@mac.com> Message-ID: <1315958601.45752.YahooMailNeo@web112611.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I think teachers should be provided all the tools they need to teach - especially laptops and digital display devices. (All teachers in any school must use technology, BYOT for teachers allows teachers to opt out, or have outdated tools, thus disadvantaging kids) But I also think that BYOT is a great concept for students! Unleash the power in the student's pockets! Utilise the laptop that lies idle at home while the student is at school. ________________________________ From: Martin Levins To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT Is it more significant that one of qfs core systems was 24 years old and was written in fortran? 24 years is about the same age as the nsw Maths curriculum isn't it? Sent from my shoephone On 13/09/2011, at 17:54, Mike Wheadon wrote: > Yes, some 'empires' will be bypassed with BYOT. Yay to that - it's what so many chn go home to every day anyway. > Mike > > On 13/09/2011, at 4:10 PM, "Norris, Greg" wrote: > >> Very interesting Mal. >> >> I've always supported the need for teachers to bring their own ICT to school. Nice to see the realisation in the corporate world. >> >> Of course, some IT people will throw up their hands and say that the end of the world is nigh! >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> >> On 13/09/2011, at 1:03 PM, Mal Lee wrote: >> >>> Dear colleagues >>> >>> For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 >>> >>> Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mal Lee >>> >>> Author/educational consultant >>> PO Box 5010 Broulee >>> NSW? 2537 Australia >>> http://malleehome.com >>> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. 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With the cloud that will ever more be required But I think Victoria's recent experience with the laptops shows systems could soon rid themselves of many unnecessary hassles - and actually save money Bear in mind with the teacher buying both you - and indirectly the systems - can benefit from the tax allowance Cheers Mal Lee On 14/09/2011, at 10:03 AM, Dave Hounsell wrote: > I think teachers should be provided all the tools they need to teach - especially laptops and digital display devices. > (All teachers in any school must use technology, BYOT for teachers allows teachers to opt out, or have outdated tools, thus disadvantaging kids) > But I also think that BYOT is a great concept for students! > Unleash the power in the student's pockets! > Utilise the laptop that lies idle at home while the student is at school. > > From: Martin Levins > To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" > Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 6:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Maced] QANTAS goes BYOT > > > Is it more significant that one of qfs core systems was 24 years old and was written in fortran? > > 24 years is about the same age as the nsw Maths curriculum isn't it? > > > Sent from my shoephone > > On 13/09/2011, at 17:54, Mike Wheadon wrote: > > > Yes, some 'empires' will be bypassed with BYOT. Yay to that - it's what so many chn go home to every day anyway. > > Mike > > > > On 13/09/2011, at 4:10 PM, "Norris, Greg" wrote: > > > >> Very interesting Mal. > >> > >> I've always supported the need for teachers to bring their own ICT to school. Nice to see the realisation in the corporate world. > >> > >> Of course, some IT people will throw up their hands and say that the end of the world is nigh! > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 13/09/2011, at 1:03 PM, Mal Lee wrote: > >> > >>> Dear colleagues > >>> > >>> For those interested today's article in The Australian on QANTAS going BYOT makes for an interesting read - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/byo-device-qantas-staff-take-off-from-desk/story-e6frgakx-1226135217144 > >>> > >>> Would be a challenge for some of the departmental IR coordinators > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Mal Lee > >>> > >>> Author/educational consultant > >>> PO Box 5010 Broulee > >>> NSW 2537 Australia > >>> http://malleehome.com > >>> Ph - + 61 2 44717 947 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Maced mailing list > >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > >> > >> ********************************************************************** > >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > >> privileged information or confidential information or both. 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Or both. Any thoughts or experiences appreciated. Thanks Warren From maestroec at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 14:29:35 2011 From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:29:35 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Shared logons In-Reply-To: <2726B1C4-E3B6-4A72-8B9D-C7493BF8ABBC@me.com> References: <2726B1C4-E3B6-4A72-8B9D-C7493BF8ABBC@me.com> Message-ID: Warren What isn't working? Are they using local accounts on the computer and connecting to the server in the Finder or are these all Workgroup Manager yr1, yr2 logons? I can see potential for problems with the latter... How many machines and/or logins are being used at the one time? How many access points? 802.11n? What type of machines are the clients? More info needed I think! On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Warren McCullough wrote: > Hi all, > > I was talking to a primary school today in Hong Kong. > > They have setup a Mac 10.6 server with 'shared' logins (i.e. - Yr1, Yr2, > etc) where multiple students use the same class login. I haven't tried this > since back in the days of OS9 server, when it worked pretty well. > > Plus they are trying to do this over wireless! > > Anyone had success with shared logins over an ethernet network? > > I am not sure if their issues are related to the sharing of the logons, or > the wireless. Or both. > > Any thoughts or experiences appreciated. > > Thanks > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > -- Kind Regards, Elliott Chapman elliott dot chapman at mac dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wicked_wes at mac.com Thu Sep 15 14:53:06 2011 From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:53:06 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions Message-ID: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> Hi all I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. I'm asking two things: A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? Thanks Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone From wazmac at me.com Thu Sep 15 15:00:29 2011 From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:00:29 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Shared logons In-Reply-To: References: <2726B1C4-E3B6-4A72-8B9D-C7493BF8ABBC@me.com> Message-ID: <9A420503-E351-4C67-9893-6FCF0485FFA1@me.com> Sorry - I should have said that they are network accounts. 15 students logging in with the same account at the same time. Which I can see has the potential for creating lots of problems, regardless of the network infrastructure. My suggestion would be to do as you suggest - local logins with a shared network folder. Warren On 15/09/2011, at 2:29 PM, Elliott Chapman wrote: > Warren > > What isn't working? > > Are they using local accounts on the computer and connecting to the server in the Finder or are these all Workgroup Manager yr1, yr2 logons? I can see potential for problems with the latter... > > How many machines and/or logins are being used at the one time? How many access points? 802.11n? What type of machines are the clients? More info needed I think! > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Warren McCullough wrote: > Hi all, > > I was talking to a primary school today in Hong Kong. > > They have setup a Mac 10.6 server with 'shared' logins (i.e. - Yr1, Yr2, etc) where multiple students use the same class login. I haven't tried this since back in the days of OS9 server, when it worked pretty well. > > Plus they are trying to do this over wireless! > > Anyone had success with shared logins over an ethernet network? > > I am not sure if their issues are related to the sharing of the logons, or the wireless. Or both. > > Any thoughts or experiences appreciated. > > Thanks > Warren > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > > -- > Kind Regards, > Elliott Chapman > elliott dot chapman at mac dot com > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markw at preshil.vic.edu.au Thu Sep 15 15:42:49 2011 From: markw at preshil.vic.edu.au (Mark Walsh) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:42:49 +0000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> Message-ID: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AA198@mailserver2010> It depends on how closely they are integrated into the network. Its almost impossible to comment without knowing the specifics of setups and what level of permissions are required. Giving users high level permissions may seem trivial but all it takes is one click, one poorly written piece of software to create havoc across a network. It has been standard industry practice since the dawn of computing to keep end user access limited to prevent disasters and maintain the security of data. Who owns the equipment? Who maintains the equipment? To what level of support has the school committed resources too? Im also interested in seeing what other schools are doing and what level of support is being offered Mark Walsh IT Manager Preshil School ________________________________________ From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] on behalf of Wes Warner [wicked_wes at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:53 PM To: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions Hi all I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. I'm asking two things: A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? Thanks Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From wicked_wes at mac.com Thu Sep 15 16:02:57 2011 From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:02:57 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AA198@mailserver2010> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AA198@mailserver2010> Message-ID: Hi Mark thanks for this. Permissions such as clearing out the printer que are unable to done by staff as they do not have the permission to do so. adding software so they can acces their own home network is very difficult as they do not have the rights to add this software either. I see your point , but I have a staff who are unwilling to ask as they have been denied so often if the past they appear to have given up. I am really interested to hear others POV especially techs On 15/09/2011, at 3:42 PM, Mark Walsh wrote: > It depends on how closely they are integrated into the network. Its almost impossible to comment without knowing the specifics of setups and what level of permissions are required. > Giving users high level permissions may seem trivial but all it takes is one click, one poorly written piece of software to create havoc across a network. > It has been standard industry practice since the dawn of computing to keep end user access limited to prevent disasters and maintain the security of data. > Who owns the equipment? Who maintains the equipment? To what level of support has the school committed resources too? > Im also interested in seeing what other schools are doing and what level of support is being offered > > Mark Walsh > IT Manager > Preshil School > > ________________________________________ > From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] on behalf of Wes Warner [wicked_wes at mac.com] > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 2:53 PM > To: Macs in Education > Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions > > Hi all > > I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. > > As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. > > Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. > > I'm asking two things: > A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? > > B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? > > Thanks > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From daveburke82 at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 16:41:22 2011 From: daveburke82 at gmail.com (David Burke) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:41:22 +1000 Subject: [Maced] headphones In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF545109C52C7@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF545109C52C7@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> Message-ID: <4D38A6A8-AF69-4551-84B7-948FFBFBB79A@gmail.com> Glenn, i'd suggest sourcing some really cheap iPod-esque headphones on eBay (incredibly cheap from china) and let the kids buy them off you for a couple if dollars. Kids might also opt to bring in their own. This way they can use them in class too, with laptops, iPads etc. Dave Burke Sent from my iPhone On 15/09/2011, at 12:45 PM, "Southwell, Glenn" wrote: > > I know it is often on here but is never relevant until it is needed. > Suggestions for headphones for our lab please?? > > Glenn Southwell > at > The Rail > > Albion Park Rail Public School > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From glenryan at me.com Thu Sep 15 18:41:11 2011 From: glenryan at me.com (Glen Ryan) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:41:11 +1000 Subject: [Maced] imac not starting up In-Reply-To: <007201cc7352$b95ca1f0$2c15e5d0$@eq.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi This is a hard one. The shut down is not software or the hard drive. Could be bad RAM or worst it could be a motherboard. Have you tried to start in target mode from another Mac e.g. A laptop? Connect a laptop with a firewire cable, start iMac and hold down the T key and see if it mounts on the desktop of the laptop. If it still shuts down then off to the local repair shop. Cheers Glen From: HAMS Carol Reply-To: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:53:59 +1000 To: Subject: [Maced] imac not starting up Hi I hope someone can give me advice about my imac not powering up properly. When I start it - it goes to the grey screen and starts to power up for about 1 minute then shuts down. I have tried resetting the pram but the machine does not restart when I hold down the keys. I tried holding the power button down for the count of 5 while disconnected then reconnecting and resarting. I put the hardware test disc in a held the C button down while it started up. Nothing has worked. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks Carol Carol Hams Robertson State School ICT/Class Teacher Ph 07 34524111 Mobile 0431 607 922 ------------------------ This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author. 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I cannot see how you can effectively evaluate software without being able to install. How much fantastic free or cheap software is out there for teachers to use and support creative learning. Cheer Glen On 15/09/11 2:53 PM, "Wes Warner" wrote: >Hi all > >I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership >permissions on their laptops. > >As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless >there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having >permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how >they can best use the laptop in class. > >Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there >would be more problems with software conflicts. > >I'm asking two things: >A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, >are staff committed to embedding ict's? > >B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in >IT tech support? > >Thanks > >Wes Warner >? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >Head of Technology >Genesis Christian College >@I_Teach_ICT >Sent from my iPhone >_______________________________________________ >Maced mailing list >Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au Thu Sep 15 20:30:55 2011 From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:30:55 +0800 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> Message-ID: <48942DF2-D7AD-4AA3-B333-1AA55EA34C5E@helena.wa.edu.au> We are in a slightly different situation. Our staff all own their own laptops and so have full admin rights over their computers. However, if our school decided to supply laptops for the staff I would be pushing for the same level of self management. It would seem ludicrous to have to run to the techies each and every time you would want to install some software, driver, or admin based preference. This would significantly increase tech workload as well as frustrate the teachers. Why would the school want to shackle the teacher? Can't they be trusted with a $1000 machine? We trust them with the lives of one of our most precious commodities. In a nutshell we don't have any significant problem with teachers having full admin rights on their computers and smart-phones at school and I feel if anything this reduces IT staff burden. Regards, Eugene -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Sep 15 20:47:03 2011 From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:47:03 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <48942DF2-D7AD-4AA3-B333-1AA55EA34C5E@helena.wa.edu.au> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <48942DF2-D7AD-4AA3-B333-1AA55EA34C5E@helena.wa.edu.au> Message-ID: <495E0725-BDD8-4BB0-9AE0-B0B8E813A908@det.nsw.edu.au> I agree I'm happy for staff (and students) to bring in their own devices. I'm excited about the prospect of being able to provide content and access over a range of interfaces, I think it gives people ownership. What I try and do is provide secure interfaces to school information. We have web2 facilities like Moodle and Sharepoint and I have a terminal server for staff access. Unfortunately the cost is prohibitive, otherwise I would have a TS for student access as well. The TS is locked down but it means that I can provide a consistent interface to school apps. It therefore doesn't matter if the user is accessing it on a Mac or their own flavour of Windows computer, its all the same. I would love to provide such an interface to OSX programs but it doesn't seem to be a prospect at the moment. Greg On 15/09/2011, at 8:30 PM, Eugene wrote: We are in a slightly different situation. Our staff all own their own laptops and so have full admin rights over their computers. However, if our school decided to supply laptops for the staff I would be pushing for the same level of self management. It would seem ludicrous to have to run to the techies each and every time you would want to install some software, driver, or admin based preference. This would significantly increase tech workload as well as frustrate the teachers. Why would the school want to shackle the teacher? Can't they be trusted with a $1000 machine? We trust them with the lives of one of our most precious commodities. In a nutshell we don't have any significant problem with teachers having full admin rights on their computers and smart-phones at school and I feel if anything this reduces IT staff burden. Regards, Eugene On 15/09/2011, at 12:53 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > Hi all > > I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. > > As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. > > Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. > > I'm asking two things: > A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? > > B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? > > Thanks > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced <(null) 4.tiff> ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au Thu Sep 15 21:25:17 2011 From: dgillesp at friends.tas.edu.au (Duncan Gillespie) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:25:17 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Wes We have teachers as administrators of their laptops and have done so since the late 90's, so can't comment on any "increase" in IT tech support. My feeling is it decreases tech support from a troubleshooting point of view as staff (over time) become familiar with the basic setup - we encourage our technicians to show staff how they fix a problem when possible. It may increase tech support from the point of view that our staff use a broader range of tools, particularly those fit for purpose depending on their teaching context. This can mean more of a two-way relationship as teachers share the specialist software capabilities with the technical staff. We have a process of developing a software build (around this time each year) which we use to provide a tested OS and applications, but expect that over a 12 month period there will be a need for just in time access to applications. Over time this has lead to our emphasis being able to shift to reliable network access and relevant information services, rather than an emphasis on managing devices. Cheers Duncan Duncan Gillespie Director of ICT The Friends' School On 15/09/2011, at 2:53 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > Hi all > > I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. > > As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. > > Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. > > I'm asking two things: > A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? > > B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? > > Thanks > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Please consider the environment before printing. Notice: The information contained in this email and any attached files may be confidential information, and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is unauthorised. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. This notice has been automatically added. From kel at edugator.net.au Thu Sep 15 22:24:28 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:24:28 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> Message-ID: <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments Cheers Kel ---------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting Wes Warner : > Hi all > > I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having > ownership permissions on their laptops. > > As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so > unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument > for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and > experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. > > Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as > there would be more problems with software conflicts. > > I'm asking two things: > A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued > laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? > > B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase > in IT tech support? > > Thanks > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From wicked_wes at mac.com Thu Sep 15 22:27:12 2011 From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:27:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: Hi Kel Thanks for your opinion. Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone On 15/09/2011, at 10:24 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. > > A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: > > 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted > > 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. > > 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. > > 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. > > 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. > > 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. > > Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. > > The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. > > A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. > > IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. > > Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments > > Cheers > > Kel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quoting Wes Warner : > >> Hi all >> >> I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. >> >> As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. >> >> Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. >> >> I'm asking two things: >> A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? >> >> B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From wicked_wes at mac.com Thu Sep 15 22:27:35 2011 From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:27:35 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks Duncan Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone On 15/09/2011, at 9:25 PM, Duncan Gillespie wrote: > Hi Wes > > We have teachers as administrators of their laptops and have done so since the late 90's, so can't comment on any "increase" in IT tech support. > > My feeling is it decreases tech support from a troubleshooting point of view as staff (over time) become familiar with the basic setup - we encourage our technicians to show staff how they fix a problem when possible. > > It may increase tech support from the point of view that our staff use a broader range of tools, particularly those fit for purpose depending on their teaching context. This can mean more of a two-way relationship as teachers share the specialist software capabilities with the technical staff. > > We have a process of developing a software build (around this time each year) which we use to provide a tested OS and applications, but expect that over a 12 month period there will be a need for just in time access to applications. > > Over time this has lead to our emphasis being able to shift to reliable network access and relevant information services, rather than an emphasis on managing devices. > > Cheers > > Duncan > > Duncan Gillespie > Director of ICT > The Friends' School > > On 15/09/2011, at 2:53 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. >> >> As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. >> >> Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. >> >> I'm asking two things: >> A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? >> >> B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > > Please consider the environment before printing. > > Notice: The information contained in this email and any attached files > may be confidential information, and may also be subject to legal privilege. > If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this > email is unauthorised. If you have received this email in error, please > notify the sender immediately by reply email and delete all copies of this > transmission together with any attachments. > > This notice has been automatically added. > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au Thu Sep 15 22:36:57 2011 From: edegouw at helena.wa.edu.au (Eugene) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:36:57 +0800 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <75B6FADB-81B8-43D9-B96A-74AF979F6207@helena.wa.edu.au> Well said Kel, your examples exemplify my thoughts and contrast perfectly to the experience we have when teachers have an unlocked / unblocked system. Regards, Eugene -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: (null) 4.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 1248 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- On 15/09/2011, at 8:24 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. > > A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: > > 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted > > 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. > > 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. > > 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. > > 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. > > 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. > > Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. > > The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. > > A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. > > IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. > > Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments > > Cheers > > Kel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quoting Wes Warner : > >> Hi all >> >> I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. >> >> As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. >> >> Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. >> >> I'm asking two things: >> A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? >> >> B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From chaynes at immanuelps.sa.edu.au Thu Sep 15 22:54:55 2011 From: chaynes at immanuelps.sa.edu.au (Christine Haynes) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:24:55 +0930 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <5FDA01D6-6CA3-441E-9E72-75E5C6FD35D3@immanuelps.sa.edu.au> We don't restrict staff installing software, but we do require them to provide admin login credentials (which they all know) to get them to think twice. Have seen a small increase in tech support - but valuable teachable moments. Christine Haynes On 15/09/2011, at 9:54 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. > > A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: > > 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted > > 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. > > 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. > > 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. > > 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. > > 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. > > Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. > > The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. > > A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. > > IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. > > Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments > > Cheers > > Kel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quoting Wes Warner : > >> Hi all >> >> I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. >> >> As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. >> >> Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. >> >> I'm asking two things: >> A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? >> >> B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 16 07:31:24 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] headphones In-Reply-To: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF545109C52C7@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF545109C52C7@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> Message-ID: <1316122284.7605.YahooMailNeo@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> After trying many, I use cheap Verbatims - usually $7 -$9 each. eg?http://www.ota.com.au/Audio-and-Visual/Headphones-and-Headsets/Verbatim-41645-Multimedia-Headset-with-Volume-Control-25756.html ________________________________ From: "Southwell, Glenn" To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:45 PM Subject: [Maced] headphones I know it is often on here but is never relevant until it is needed. Suggestions for headphones for our lab please?? ? ? Glenn Southwell ? ? ? ? ? ? at ? ? ? ? The Rail Albion Park Rail Public School ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 16 07:42:59 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] imac not starting up In-Reply-To: <007201cc7352$b95ca1f0$2c15e5d0$@eq.edu.au> References: <007201cc7352$b95ca1f0$2c15e5d0$@eq.edu.au> Message-ID: <1316122979.27861.YahooMailNeo@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi Carol Possibly a failed Hard drive? Try this: Borrow another iMac, connect the two with a firewire cable. Restart the borrowed Mac with holding down the "T" key to put it in target mode. Restart your Mac holding down the option key and when prompted select the borrowed Mac as the startup drive. If yours starts up using the other machines hard drive, then the problem is your related to your hard drive. You could try fixing it by starting from the original system CD and running disk utilities, or command "S" at startup and run the fsck -fy script as directed. If it doesn't start up, then you have another hardware issue. Cheers Dave ________________________________ From: HAMS Carol To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:53 PM Subject: [Maced] imac not starting up Hi I hope someone can give me advice about my imac not powering up properly. When I start it? - it goes to the grey screen and starts to power up for about 1 minute then shuts down. I have tried resetting the pram but the machine does not restart when I hold down the keys. I tried holding the power button down for the count of 5 while disconnected then reconnecting and resarting. I put the hardware test disc in a held the C button down while it started up. Nothing has worked. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks Carol ? Carol Hams Robertson State School ICT/Class Teacher ? Ph? 07 34524111 Mobile 0431 607 922 ------------------------ ? This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. 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URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 16 07:47:30 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <1316123250.52270.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Agree 100% Kel. ________________________________ From: "kel at edugator.net.au" To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Maced] Ownership permissions It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments Cheers Kel ---------------------------------------------------------------- Quoting Wes Warner : > Hi all > > I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. > > As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward.? My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. > > Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. > > I'm asking two things: > A.? If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? > > B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? > > Thanks > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hounselltech at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 16 08:08:22 2011 From: hounselltech at yahoo.com.au (Dave Hounsell) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <1316124502.3339.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Kel said it really eloquently. To add, our school has been running a Mac laptop program for teachers for over a decade. We have always given them admin access, trained them in simple fix routines. As to software conflicts,?it's a very rare event in OSX these days, and easy to fix if it occurs. (Lion puts a no go sign on anything it doesn't like) Might be worth asking tech support to provide examples of the conflicts they are worried about, and get them to detail the problem such conflict will cause? If a teacher really scrambles their machine, it's really not that hard to wipe and restore it with say, Deploy Studio, and use Migration Manager to pull back their needed bits from a backup. Techies should serve teachers needs - not the other way around. The?Head of Technology, or the Principal needs to clearly define role statements in writing ensuring the techies don't become a law unto themselves. If the techies are from a wider system, and thus not under your jurisdiction, then Principals have to lobby to change policy. And Admin access should be a key point. Cheers Dave ________________________________ From: Wes Warner To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Maced] Ownership permissions Hi Kel Thanks for your opinion. Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone On 15/09/2011, at 10:24 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. > > A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: > > 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted > > 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. > > 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. > > 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. > > 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. > > 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. > > Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. > > The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. > > A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. > > IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. > > Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments > > Cheers > > Kel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quoting Wes Warner : > >> Hi all >> >> I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. >> >> As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward.? My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. >> >> Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. >> >> I'm asking two things: >> A.? If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? >> >> B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 16 08:33:13 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:33:13 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Setting up Log in Options on Lion client Message-ID: <5D061B3C-4330-4D56-92EB-4584772DAEE0@exemail.com.au> Hi When Setting up Log in Options on Lion Client I have Network account server showing my server 10.X.X.27 but the green light is not on because "The status of your server is unknown. This server is not in your search policy." How do I rectify this? Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From markw at preshil.vic.edu.au Fri Sep 16 09:36:09 2011 From: markw at preshil.vic.edu.au (Mark Walsh) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:36:09 +0000 Subject: [Maced] Ownership permissions In-Reply-To: <1316124502.3339.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> , <1316124502.3339.YahooMailNeo@web112614.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AA31E@mailserver2010> Would be useful to get an idea of staff/student numbers and the size of IT departments? Is support inhouse or supplied by external vendors and what level of support is offered. Mark Walsh IT Manager Preshil School ________________________________ From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] on behalf of Dave Hounsell [hounselltech at yahoo.com.au] Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 8:08 AM To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Subject: Re: [Maced] Ownership permissions Kel said it really eloquently. To add, our school has been running a Mac laptop program for teachers for over a decade. We have always given them admin access, trained them in simple fix routines. As to software conflicts, it's a very rare event in OSX these days, and easy to fix if it occurs. (Lion puts a no go sign on anything it doesn't like) Might be worth asking tech support to provide examples of the conflicts they are worried about, and get them to detail the problem such conflict will cause? If a teacher really scrambles their machine, it's really not that hard to wipe and restore it with say, Deploy Studio, and use Migration Manager to pull back their needed bits from a backup. Techies should serve teachers needs - not the other way around. The Head of Technology, or the Principal needs to clearly define role statements in writing ensuring the techies don't become a law unto themselves. If the techies are from a wider system, and thus not under your jurisdiction, then Principals have to lobby to change policy. And Admin access should be a key point. Cheers Dave ________________________________ From: Wes Warner To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Maced] Ownership permissions Hi Kel Thanks for your opinion. Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone On 15/09/2011, at 10:24 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > It's bad enough when schools don't show any trust in their students, but when they won't show trust in the staff you may as well pack the technology in the cupboard and leave it there. > > A previous school of mine made the move to restrictive permissions (against my advice), some of the results were: > > 1. Staff attitude became very anti technology - mainly out of frustration from being blocked and resentment that they could not be trusted > > 2. The quality of teaching with technology deteriorated as innovation was quashed - yes you can be innovative, but in two weeks time after filling out a request form. Word and PPT became the most used programs, for some teachers the only used programs. > > 3. Social use drives teachers to use technology in new ways but restrictive permissions hinders this, so teachers stopped taking their laptops home, enthusiasm to use technology noticeably decreased. > > 4. There were many lost educational opportunities as teachers retreated to using only what was on the laptops. > > 5. IT remarked how well the system was working because requests from staff had decreased to almost zero - in reality staff had given up on technology and just couldn't be bothered requesting anything. > > 6. My worst record was receiving software on two weeks approval and because the techs were busy it took them 12 weeks to load it for me. > > Some technicians don't understand that teacher enthusiasm is a fire that needs to be fanned, not have a blanket thrown over it. > > The real reality is that fixing the occasional train wreck is far less work for technicians than policing and maintaining restrictive use. Besides, mistakes are a great learning experience. > > A more recent example, in a DET system near me staff do not even have permission to put a shortcut on their desktops. You can imagine what teachers are saying about this. > > IT techs need to go back to being the good guys not network nazis. > > Hope that little rant gives you some good arguments > > Cheers > > Kel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quoting Wes Warner >: > >> Hi all >> >> I am having polite conversations regarding our staff having ownership permissions on their laptops. >> >> As it stands they do not have any permissions and will not have so unless there is a very convincing argument put forward. My argument for having permissions, staff would be more willing to play and experiment on how they can best use the laptop in class. >> >> Tech support argument is that it would increase their work load as there would be more problems with software conflicts. >> >> I'm asking two things: >> A. If your school doesn't give permissions for school issued laptops, are staff committed to embedding ict's? >> >> B. If you have given permissions to staff, have you seen an increase in IT tech support? >> >> Thanks >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 16 10:06:54 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:06:54 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. Message-ID: Hi All, I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion machine? Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 16 10:11:30 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:11:30 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <67A63906-C530-4DD8-9E6D-67138F3265F0@exemail.com.au> Apple website suggestsI download it for $29.99! On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > Hi All, > I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. > How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion machine? > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From esheerin at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 10:33:24 2011 From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:33:24 +1000 Subject: [Maced] headphones In-Reply-To: <1316122284.7605.YahooMailNeo@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <07A38EB6C79C1F41965E52E3CD628FF545109C52C7@SLUGPEXMC21.central.det.win> <1316122284.7605.YahooMailNeo@web112604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not sure if I have found the right link but we had very good reports from these headphones from Sun???: http://www.littlesun.com.au/Products.html Ellen On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Dave Hounsell wrote: > After trying many, I use cheap Verbatims - usually $7 -$9 each. > eg?http://www.ota.com.au/Audio-and-Visual/Headphones-and-Headsets/Verbatim-41645-Multimedia-Headset-with-Volume-Control-25756.html > ________________________________ > From: "Southwell, Glenn" > To: "maced at zeus.as.edu.au" > Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:45 PM > Subject: [Maced] headphones > > > I know it is often on here but is never relevant until it is needed. > Suggestions for headphones for our lab please?? > > ? ? Glenn Southwell > ? ? ? ? ? ? at > ? ? ? ? The Rail > > Albion Park Rail Public School > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > -- Ellen Sheerin From andrea at ormiston.qld.edu.au Fri Sep 16 10:44:46 2011 From: andrea at ormiston.qld.edu.au (Andrea Lago) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:44:46 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jim I came across this website that tells you how to create a backup Lion install image. http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/07/ask-ars-do-i-have-to-use-the-mac-app-store-to-install-lion.ars Bye, Andrea Andrea Lago Technology Department Ormiston College On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > Hi All, > I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. > How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion machine? > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 16 10:49:18 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:49:18 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Andrea On 16/09/2011, at 10:44 AM, Andrea Lago wrote: > Hi Jim > > I came across this website that tells you how to create a backup Lion install image. > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/07/ask-ars-do-i-have-to-use-the-mac-app-store-to-install-lion.ars > > Bye, Andrea > > Andrea Lago > Technology Department > Ormiston College > > > On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. >> How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion machine? >> Thanks Jim >> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From larrytay at optusnet.com.au Fri Sep 16 11:00:19 2011 From: larrytay at optusnet.com.au (Larry Taylor) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:00:19 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have done and it works, but on my MacBook Pro it takes quite a bit longer to boot than has been the case with previous Mac OS X versions, certainly much slower than the download option. Having said that once booted it functions much as you would expect. Larry Sent from my iPhone On 16/09/2011, at 10:44 AM, Andrea Lago wrote: > Hi Jim > > I came across this website that tells you how to create a backup Lion install image. > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/07/ask-ars-do-i-have-to-use-the-mac-app-store-to-install-lion.ars > > Bye, Andrea > > Andrea Lago > Technology Department > Ormiston College > > > On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. >> How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion machine? >> Thanks Jim >> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 16 11:05:21 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:05:21 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <096DB598-3548-4278-9A61-5DBBAF8F7044@exemail.com.au> Hi Larry, when I look in the Applications folder as suggested there is no Lion Installer app. Any ideas? Jim On 16/09/2011, at 11:00 AM, Larry Taylor wrote: > I have done and it works, but on my MacBook Pro it takes quite a bit longer to boot than has been the case with previous Mac OS X versions, certainly much slower than the download option. Having said that once booted it functions much as you would expect. > > Larry > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16/09/2011, at 10:44 AM, Andrea Lago wrote: > >> Hi Jim >> >> I came across this website that tells you how to create a backup Lion install image. >> >> http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/07/ask-ars-do-i-have-to-use-the-mac-app-store-to-install-lion.ars >> >> Bye, Andrea >> >> Andrea Lago >> Technology Department >> Ormiston College >> >> >> On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. >>> How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion machine? >>> Thanks Jim >>> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >>> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >>> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >>> ********************************************************************** >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From troberts at acr.net.au Fri Sep 16 10:57:52 2011 From: troberts at acr.net.au (troberts at acr.net.au) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:57:52 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. Message-ID: <1316134672_223780@mail> Jim I have seen info from Apple about "Internet Recovery" a feature of "Lion" that works from the Apple servers that could help Tony. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Carney To: Macs in Education Cc: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:06:54 +1000 > Hi All, > I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with > System CDs. How do I go about formatting an external HD > that will boot up a Lion machine? Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > > ********************************************************** > ************ This message is intended for the addressee > named and may contain privileged information or > confidential information or both. If you are not the > intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************** > ************ > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From maestroec at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 11:07:54 2011 From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:07:54 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: <096DB598-3548-4278-9A61-5DBBAF8F7044@exemail.com.au> References: <096DB598-3548-4278-9A61-5DBBAF8F7044@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: Once it's installed, the application is removed from the machine as part of the install process. You'll need to have a copy of it (usually from the App store) to work with... On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > Hi Larry, > when I look in the Applications folder as suggested there is no Lion > Installer app. > Any ideas? > Jim > On 16/09/2011, at 11:00 AM, Larry Taylor wrote: > > > I have done and it works, but on my MacBook Pro it takes quite a bit > longer to boot than has been the case with previous Mac OS X versions, > certainly much slower than the download option. Having said that once booted > it functions much as you would expect. > > > > Larry > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 16/09/2011, at 10:44 AM, Andrea Lago > wrote: > > > >> Hi Jim > >> > >> I came across this website that tells you how to create a backup Lion > install image. > >> > >> > http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/07/ask-ars-do-i-have-to-use-the-mac-app-store-to-install-lion.ars > >> > >> Bye, Andrea > >> > >> Andrea Lago > >> Technology Department > >> Ormiston College > >> > >> > >> On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. > >>> How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion > machine? > >>> Thanks Jim > >>> fatalbert at exemail.com.au > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ********************************************************************** > >>> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > >>> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > >>> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > >>> ********************************************************************** > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Maced mailing list > >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Maced mailing list > >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Maced mailing list > > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > -- Kind Regards, Elliott Chapman elliott dot chapman at mac dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maestroec at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 11:08:23 2011 From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:08:23 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: <1316134672_223780@mail> References: <1316134672_223780@mail> Message-ID: Only on the latest Mac minis and MacBook Airs... On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:57 AM, troberts at acr.net.au wrote: > Jim > > I have seen info from Apple about "Internet Recovery" a > feature of "Lion" that works from the Apple servers that > could help > > Tony. > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Carney > To: Macs in Education > Cc: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX > > Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:06:54 +1000 > > > Hi All, > > I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with > > System CDs. How do I go about formatting an external HD > > that will boot up a Lion machine? Thanks Jim > > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > > > > > > ********************************************************** > > ************ This message is intended for the addressee > > named and may contain privileged information or > > confidential information or both. If you are not the > > intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > > ********************************************************** > > ************ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Maced mailing list > > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > -- Kind Regards, Elliott Chapman elliott dot chapman at mac dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maestroec at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 11:09:15 2011 From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:09:15 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: <1316134672_223780@mail> Message-ID: and the current MacBook Pro with a firmware update. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Elliott Chapman wrote: > Only on the latest Mac minis and MacBook Airs... > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:57 AM, troberts at acr.net.au > wrote: > >> Jim >> >> I have seen info from Apple about "Internet Recovery" a >> feature of "Lion" that works from the Apple servers that >> could help >> >> Tony. >> . >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jim Carney >> To: Macs in Education >> Cc: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX >> >> Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:06:54 +1000 >> >> > Hi All, >> > I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with >> > System CDs. How do I go about formatting an external HD >> > that will boot up a Lion machine? Thanks Jim >> > fatalbert at exemail.com.au >> > >> > >> > >> > ********************************************************** >> > ************ This message is intended for the addressee >> > named and may contain privileged information or >> > confidential information or both. If you are not the >> > intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> > ********************************************************** >> > ************ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Maced mailing list >> > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > -- > Kind Regards, > Elliott Chapman > elliott dot chapman at mac dot com > -- Kind Regards, Elliott Chapman elliott dot chapman at mac dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Fri Sep 16 11:15:14 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:15:14 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: <1316134672_223780@mail> References: <1316134672_223780@mail> Message-ID: <3549238F-D666-42D6-A488-8DC7D3FB09B9@exemail.com.au> Thanks Tony On 16/09/2011, at 10:57 AM, troberts at acr.net.au wrote: > Jim > > I have seen info from Apple about "Internet Recovery" a > feature of "Lion" that works from the Apple servers that > could help > > Tony. > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Carney > To: Macs in Education > Cc: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX > > Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. > Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:06:54 +1000 > >> Hi All, >> I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with >> System CDs. How do I go about formatting an external HD >> that will boot up a Lion machine? Thanks Jim >> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >> >> >> >> ********************************************************** >> ************ This message is intended for the addressee >> named and may contain privileged information or >> confidential information or both. If you are not the >> intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************** >> ************ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From maestroec at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 11:16:47 2011 From: maestroec at gmail.com (Elliott Chapman) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:16:47 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: References: <1316134672_223780@mail> Message-ID: Lion Recovery mode explained here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Elliott Chapman wrote: > and the current MacBook Pro with a firmware update. > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Elliott Chapman wrote: > >> Only on the latest Mac minis and MacBook Airs... >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:57 AM, troberts at acr.net.au < >> troberts at acr.net.au> wrote: >> >>> Jim >>> >>> I have seen info from Apple about "Internet Recovery" a >>> feature of "Lion" that works from the Apple servers that >>> could help >>> >>> Tony. >>> . >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Jim Carney >>> To: Macs in Education >>> Cc: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX >>> >>> Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. >>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:06:54 +1000 >>> >>> > Hi All, >>> > I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with >>> > System CDs. How do I go about formatting an external HD >>> > that will boot up a Lion machine? Thanks Jim >>> > fatalbert at exemail.com.au >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ********************************************************** >>> > ************ This message is intended for the addressee >>> > named and may contain privileged information or >>> > confidential information or both. If you are not the >>> > intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >>> > ********************************************************** >>> > ************ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Maced mailing list >>> > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kind Regards, >> Elliott Chapman >> elliott dot chapman at mac dot com >> > > > > -- > Kind Regards, > Elliott Chapman > elliott dot chapman at mac dot com > -- Kind Regards, Elliott Chapman elliott dot chapman at mac dot com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larrytay at optusnet.com.au Fri Sep 16 12:01:41 2011 From: larrytay at optusnet.com.au (Larry Taylor) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:01:41 +1000 Subject: [Maced] IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. In-Reply-To: <096DB598-3548-4278-9A61-5DBBAF8F7044@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Jim I had to re-download it from the app store. This web site says what to do. From memory that's more or less what I did but it's not working for me now, however I think that's because it is already sitting in the Applications folder, although I have read some suggestions that it doesn't always work, I just know it did when I tried it. You could also check the trash which is where the app gets put after installation is complete. http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/02/re-download-mac-os-x-lion-from-app-store/ Larry On 16/09/11 11:05 AM, "Jim Carney" wrote: > Hi Larry, > when I look in the Applications folder as suggested there is no Lion Installer > app. > Any ideas? > Jim > On 16/09/2011, at 11:00 AM, Larry Taylor wrote: > >> I have done and it works, but on my MacBook Pro it takes quite a bit longer >> to boot than has been the case with previous Mac OS X versions, certainly >> much slower than the download option. Having said that once booted it >> functions much as you would expect. >> >> Larry >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 16/09/2011, at 10:44 AM, Andrea Lago wrote: >> >>> Hi Jim >>> >>> I came across this website that tells you how to create a backup Lion >>> install image. >>> >>> http://arstechnica.com/apple/guides/2011/07/ask-ars-do-i-have-to-use-the-mac >>> -app-store-to-install-lion.ars >>> >>> Bye, Andrea >>> >>> Andrea Lago >>> Technology Department >>> Ormiston College >>> >>> >>> On 16/09/2011, at 10:06 AM, Jim Carney wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> I have just been told that IMacs no longer ship with System CDs. >>>> How do I go about formatting an external HD that will boot up a Lion >>>> machine? >>>> Thanks Jim >>>> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >>>> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >>>> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maced mailing list >>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au Sat Sep 17 07:52:24 2011 From: johnakhurst at optusnet.com.au (John Akhurst) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:52:24 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Setting up Log in Options on Lion client In-Reply-To: <5D061B3C-4330-4D56-92EB-4584772DAEE0@exemail.com.au> References: <5D061B3C-4330-4D56-92EB-4584772DAEE0@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: Not absolutely sure Jim but in the past I have deleted the server and re added it. This seems to fix it for me but I'm not running Lion. John On 16/09/2011, at 8:33 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > Hi > When Setting up Log in Options on Lion Client I have Network account server showing my server 10.X.X.27 but the green light is not on because "The status of your server is unknown. This server is not in your search policy." > > How do I rectify this? > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Sat Sep 17 07:58:46 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:58:46 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Setting up Log in Options on Lion client In-Reply-To: References: <5D061B3C-4330-4D56-92EB-4584772DAEE0@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: <09CF23AC-2469-409D-83E2-BC4D7FB0DF8F@exemail.com.au> Thanks John I hadn't added the server to the search policy! Jim On 17/09/2011, at 7:52 AM, John Akhurst wrote: > Not absolutely sure Jim but in the past I have deleted the server and re added it. This seems to fix it for me but I'm not running Lion. > > John > > On 16/09/2011, at 8:33 AM, Jim Carney wrote: > >> Hi >> When Setting up Log in Options on Lion Client I have Network account server showing my server 10.X.X.27 but the green light is not on because "The status of your server is unknown. This server is not in your search policy." >> >> How do I rectify this? >> Thanks Jim >> fatalbert at exemail.com.au >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain >> privileged information or confidential information or both. If you >> are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au From daveburke82 at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 10:32:12 2011 From: daveburke82 at gmail.com (David Burke) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:32:12 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader Message-ID: Hi all, I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. Dave Burke. From samelf at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 10:39:52 2011 From: samelf at gmail.com (Sam Elphick) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:39:52 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <845D102F-3EF8-4326-A42F-99B084C8CDEE@gmail.com> Hi Dave, That Safari extension hasn't worked for me for quite a while - have been using saveyoutube.com for all my youtube downloading needs... To use it, navigate to your desired youtube URL eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KMM387HNQk and put save after the www. eg. http://www.saveyoutube.com/watch?v=7KMM387HNQk This will let you choose the format and download from there - very handy - not as easy as the Safari extension, though :( Cheers, Sam Elphick 0422945382 On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > Hi all, > > I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? > > Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. > > Dave Burke. > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daveburke82 at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 10:49:29 2011 From: daveburke82 at gmail.com (David Burke) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:49:29 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: <845D102F-3EF8-4326-A42F-99B084C8CDEE@gmail.com> References: <845D102F-3EF8-4326-A42F-99B084C8CDEE@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Sam. I've just remembered that David Emery showed how to download YouTube videos in the highest available format at ASTD last Tuesday - he had a button in the bookmark bar, clicked it and then the youtube video would begin to download, in mp4 or HD etc. Does anyone know what this was? (David?) Dave. On 17/09/2011, at 10:39 AM, Sam Elphick wrote: > Hi Dave, > > That Safari extension hasn't worked for me for quite a while - have been using saveyoutube.com for all my youtube downloading needs... > > To use it, navigate to your desired youtube URL eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KMM387HNQk and put save after the www. eg. http://www.saveyoutube.com/watch?v=7KMM387HNQk > > This will let you choose the format and download from there - very handy - not as easy as the Safari extension, though :( > > Cheers, > Sam Elphick > 0422945382 > > On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > > > >> Hi all, >> >> I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? >> >> Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. >> >> Dave Burke. >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wazmac at me.com Sat Sep 17 11:08:34 2011 From: wazmac at me.com (Warren McCullough) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:08:34 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> My favourite is mp4downloader?. http://mp4downloader.mozdev.org/ I think this was the one David demoed at ASTD. Warren On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > Hi all, > > I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? > > Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. > > Dave Burke. > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From samelf at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 11:16:15 2011 From: samelf at gmail.com (Sam Elphick) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:16:15 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> References: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> Message-ID: <0D280DAA-7567-4F10-A825-BB893DC0763B@gmail.com> The thing i like most about saveyoutube is the variety of formats you can download in - very handy when using the files for notebook etc... Cheers, Sam. On 17/09/2011, at 11:08 AM, Warren McCullough wrote: > My favourite is mp4downloader?. > > http://mp4downloader.mozdev.org/ > > I think this was the one David demoed at ASTD. > > Warren > > > > On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? >> >> Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. >> >> Dave Burke. >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From pjhay at pacific.net.au Sat Sep 17 11:17:09 2011 From: pjhay at pacific.net.au (Pauline Hunt) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:17:09 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A331A22-6120-4432-876B-78769F7D7092@pacific.net.au> Hi Dave, I have always used Cosmopod but it doesn't work either in Safari 5 - waiting for an update. ATM I'm using Evom http://thelittleappfactory.com/evom/ which was mentioned in Macformat. It doesn't have the convenience of a plug in but is a standalone app and does the job. Regards Pauline On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > Hi all, > > I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? > > Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. > > Dave Burke. > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From daveburke82 at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 11:53:51 2011 From: daveburke82 at gmail.com (David Burke) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:53:51 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> References: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> Message-ID: That's perfect. Thanks Warren. Dave. On 17/09/2011, at 11:08 AM, Warren McCullough wrote: > My favourite is mp4downloader?. > > http://mp4downloader.mozdev.org/ > > I think this was the one David demoed at ASTD. > > Warren > > > > On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? >> >> Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. >> >> Dave Burke. >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au Sat Sep 17 16:00:01 2011 From: Greg.Norris at det.nsw.edu.au (Norris, Greg) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:00:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> References: <01F7FB1E-A6B3-401E-8454-6FA62AB9886A@me.com> Message-ID: <47ABA62B-86B4-4000-9FAA-E49296304A29@det.nsw.edu.au> I like Downloader the Firefox extension Greg On 17/09/2011, at 11:09 AM, "Warren McCullough" wrote: > My favourite is mp4downloader?. > > http://mp4downloader.mozdev.org/ > > I think this was the one David demoed at ASTD. > > Warren > > > > On 17/09/2011, at 10:32 AM, David Burke wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? >> >> Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. >> >> Dave Burke. >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From wright at 1earth.net Sat Sep 17 20:38:15 2011 From: wright at 1earth.net (Anne-Maree Wright) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:38:15 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box Message-ID: Hi All A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? Thanks Anne-Maree From wicked_wes at mac.com Sat Sep 17 21:12:54 2011 From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:12:54 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Anne-Marie I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow leopard it works a treat. Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: > Hi All > A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? > Thanks > Anne-Maree > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From wright at 1earth.net Sun Sep 18 14:52:10 2011 From: wright at 1earth.net (Anne-Maree Wright) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:52:10 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60363A35-EFD1-4137-A2EB-100FD722A7A7@1earth.net> Thanks Wes. We have sorted the problem. Anne-Maree On 17/09/2011, at 9:12 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > Hi Anne-Marie > > I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow leopard it works a treat. > > Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: > >> Hi All >> A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? >> Thanks >> Anne-Maree >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From rwhitely at internode.on.net Sun Sep 18 16:27:38 2011 From: rwhitely at internode.on.net (Reg Whitely) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:27:38 +0800 Subject: [Maced] GMUG Group and Mailing List Invitation Message-ID: <91AA8811-F815-4D62-8F05-D5139B684672@internode.on.net> Hi MacEdders You might be interested in joining GMUG, the Geraldton Macintosh User Group. Membership is not restricted to the Mid West Region, or to Macs. We have members around Australia and offshore. See here: Visit http://www.gmug.org.au/ I put the site together using Sandvox 2.1.8 on my MacBook Pro and Daniel Kerr is generously hosting it on HostingServicesWA, along with our Mailman mailing list: Subscription: http://www.gmug.org.au/subscribe Archives: http://www.gmug.org.au/archives "GMUG, the Geraldton Macintosh User Group, is a volunteer non-profit organisation located in Geraldton, Western Australia. It brings together people from the Mid West and beyond who have an interest in Apple products, technology and software through meetings and online discussions. GMUG has been a forum to for all things Apple since its inception in 2001. Our main purpose is to share our unique perspectives of how Apple technology has been integrated in each of our lives; whether for business, professional, personal or education purposes. (We have been through a shaky period over the past 12 months and have subsequently reformed, with changed leadership, a new mailing list and a new website - still in its infancy!) GMUG members freely exchange knowledge, ideas, help, news and even some laughs. Our membership includes a wide range of home users, business and professional people, educators and students alike. GMUG is the most northerly Apple User Group in Western Australia. Information is shared through our mailing lists but we also hold a variety of meetings throughout the year." Regards Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhitely at internode.on.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kel at edugator.net.au Sun Sep 18 20:24:59 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:24:59 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: <60363A35-EFD1-4137-A2EB-100FD722A7A7@1earth.net> References: <60363A35-EFD1-4137-A2EB-100FD722A7A7@1earth.net> Message-ID: <20110918202459.901252ntit5twc8w@webmail.netregistry.net> Hi Anne MAree Can you just confirm that Virtual Box works in Lion. What version of Windows have you used? After the recent recommendation by Martin and Jenny I downloaded Virtual Box and it appeared to open fine fine in Lion but It wont load my work version of XP - just keep getting error messages and can't get past 3% loaded - hey maybe Windows is working after all? Thanks Kel Quoting Anne-Maree Wright : > Thanks Wes. > We have sorted the problem. > Anne-Maree > > On 17/09/2011, at 9:12 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > >> Hi Anne-Marie >> >> I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - >> some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow >> leopard it works a treat. >> >> Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: >> >>> Hi All >>> A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. >>> Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? >>> Thanks >>> Anne-Maree >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From kel at edugator.net.au Sun Sep 18 20:28:01 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:28:01 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Youtube Video Downloader In-Reply-To: <845D102F-3EF8-4326-A42F-99B084C8CDEE@gmail.com> References: <845D102F-3EF8-4326-A42F-99B084C8CDEE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110918202801.13325i0g6a7tca8s@webmail.netregistry.net> I've used KeepVid - www.keepvid.com It gives the option to download an an mp4 and will also extract the audio as an mp3 which has been useful. > >> Hi all, >> >> I notice Safari extension YouTube Video Downloader no longer works >> (Lion, Safari 5.1). This used to add a button with several download >> format options at the top of Youtube videos. Now, it's as though it >> doesn't exist. Can anyone offer any other suggestions? >> >> Downloading in flash is easy, just through the activity window, but >> I'd like to download in iTunes friendly formats. >> >> Dave Burke. >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > From martin at levins.net Mon Sep 19 08:29:15 2011 From: martin at levins.net (Martin Levins) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:29:15 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CBC8923-F30E-4D29-945E-54686633B483@levins.net> Works fine in Lion on mine, running Win 7 As per usual, get the latest update. Cheers Martin On 17/09/2011, at 9:12 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > Hi Anne-Marie > > I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow leopard it works a treat. > > Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? > > Wes Warner > ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 > Head of Technology > Genesis Christian College > @I_Teach_ICT > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: > >> Hi All >> A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? >> Thanks >> Anne-Maree >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From wright at 1earth.net Mon Sep 19 19:19:51 2011 From: wright at 1earth.net (Anne-Maree Wright) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:19:51 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: <20110918202459.901252ntit5twc8w@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <60363A35-EFD1-4137-A2EB-100FD722A7A7@1earth.net> <20110918202459.901252ntit5twc8w@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <59B3631E-2FE7-42BC-8C4B-987D5E4A54DF@1earth.net> Hi Kel I didn't end up using Virtual Box. It was for my sister and she eventually used Bootcamp with Windows 7. She had a computer tech. install it for her and the only version of Windows he could load on was Windows 7. He hadn't had trouble loading Windows XP previously so he thought it was because of Lion. Hope it helps. Anne-Maree On 18/09/2011, at 8:24 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > Hi Anne MAree > > Can you just confirm that Virtual Box works in Lion. > > What version of Windows have you used? > > After the recent recommendation by Martin and Jenny I downloaded Virtual Box and it appeared to open fine fine in Lion but It wont load my work version of XP - just keep getting error messages and can't get past 3% loaded - hey maybe Windows is working after all? > > Thanks > > Kel > > > > Quoting Anne-Maree Wright : > >> Thanks Wes. >> We have sorted the problem. >> Anne-Maree >> >> On 17/09/2011, at 9:12 PM, Wes Warner wrote: >> >>> Hi Anne-Marie >>> >>> I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow leopard it works a treat. >>> >>> Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? >>> >>> Wes Warner >>> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >>> Head of Technology >>> Genesis Christian College >>> @I_Teach_ICT >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? >>>> Thanks >>>> Anne-Maree >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maced mailing list >>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > From rhysted at mac.com Mon Sep 19 19:39:00 2011 From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:39:00 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: <59B3631E-2FE7-42BC-8C4B-987D5E4A54DF@1earth.net> References: <60363A35-EFD1-4137-A2EB-100FD722A7A7@1earth.net> <20110918202459.901252ntit5twc8w@webmail.netregistry.net> <59B3631E-2FE7-42BC-8C4B-987D5E4A54DF@1earth.net> Message-ID: <3013BE76-E3CF-47A6-B8C8-52F771C6C4DC@mac.com> I believe Lion's Bootcamp only supports Windows 7, that's one reason why I use Parallels. Regards Rod Rod Hysted Assistant Principal Healesville Primary School View St, Healesville 3777 PO Box 222, Healesville 3777 Phone: 613 5962 4053 Fax: 613 5962 6201 On 19/09/2011, at 7:19 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: Hi Kel I didn't end up using Virtual Box. It was for my sister and she eventually used Bootcamp with Windows 7. She had a computer tech. install it for her and the only version of Windows he could load on was Windows 7. He hadn't had trouble loading Windows XP previously so he thought it was because of Lion. Hope it helps. Anne-Maree On 18/09/2011, at 8:24 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > Hi Anne MAree > > Can you just confirm that Virtual Box works in Lion. > > What version of Windows have you used? > > After the recent recommendation by Martin and Jenny I downloaded Virtual Box and it appeared to open fine fine in Lion but It wont load my work version of XP - just keep getting error messages and can't get past 3% loaded - hey maybe Windows is working after all? > > Thanks > > Kel > > > > Quoting Anne-Maree Wright : > >> Thanks Wes. >> We have sorted the problem. >> Anne-Maree >> >> On 17/09/2011, at 9:12 PM, Wes Warner wrote: >> >>> Hi Anne-Marie >>> >>> I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow leopard it works a treat. >>> >>> Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? >>> >>> Wes Warner >>> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >>> Head of Technology >>> Genesis Christian College >>> @I_Teach_ICT >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All >>>> A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? >>>> Thanks >>>> Anne-Maree >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maced mailing list >>>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au Tue Sep 20 13:24:32 2011 From: ittech at mackillop-bathurst.nsw.edu.au (Sam Osborne) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:24:32 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Virtual Box In-Reply-To: <2CBC8923-F30E-4D29-945E-54686633B483@levins.net> References: <2CBC8923-F30E-4D29-945E-54686633B483@levins.net> Message-ID: Bootcamp System requirements for Microsoft Windows http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1899 In short: 10.7 minimum Win 7 10.6 minimum XP SP2 _________________________ Sam Osborne IT Technician MacKillop College t : 02 6338 2200 www.mkc.nsw.edu.au On 19/09/2011, at 8:29 AM, Martin Levins wrote: > Works fine in Lion on mine, running Win 7 > > As per usual, get the latest update. > > Cheers > Martin > > On 17/09/2011, at 9:12 PM, Wes Warner wrote: > >> Hi Anne-Marie >> >> I haven't upgraded to Lion but the forums state it is possible - some problems with Visual Basic but nothing too major - under snow leopard it works a treat. >> >> Do you have a PC machine that you could use RDP? >> >> Wes Warner >> ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 >> Head of Technology >> Genesis Christian College >> @I_Teach_ICT >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 17/09/2011, at 8:38 PM, Anne-Maree Wright wrote: >> >>> Hi All >>> A while back a few people said that they had used Virtual Box. Just wondering if it had been tried it on Lion?? >>> Thanks >>> Anne-Maree >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maced mailing list >>> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >>> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Tue Sep 20 13:48:31 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:48:31 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Installing Remote desktop Client Message-ID: Hi Everybody When I am making an image from scratch what is the procedure for installing the client software? It appears that all I have done is installed Remote Desktop. Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From markw at preshil.vic.edu.au Tue Sep 20 15:00:51 2011 From: markw at preshil.vic.edu.au (Mark Walsh) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:00:51 +0000 Subject: [Maced] Installing Remote desktop Client In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AABBC@mailserver2010> Dont install the management software just enable System Preferences/Sharing/Remote management option Mark Walsh IT Manager Preshil School ________________________________________ From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] on behalf of Jim Carney [fatalbert at exemail.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 1:48 PM To: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX Cc: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] Installing Remote desktop Client Hi Everybody When I am making an image from scratch what is the procedure for installing the client software? It appears that all I have done is installed Remote Desktop. Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From fatalbert at exemail.com.au Tue Sep 20 15:21:28 2011 From: fatalbert at exemail.com.au (Jim Carney) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:21:28 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Installing Remote desktop Client In-Reply-To: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AABBC@mailserver2010> References: <1177F3B9EFE4374D8292DF0BBA9440CB061AABBC@mailserver2010> Message-ID: Thanks Mark On 20/09/2011, at 3:00 PM, Mark Walsh wrote: > Dont install the management software just enable System Preferences/Sharing/Remote management option > > Mark Walsh > IT Manager > Preshil School > > ________________________________________ > From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] on behalf of Jim Carney [fatalbert at exemail.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 20 September 2011 1:48 PM > To: Developing Educational Technologies - OSX > Cc: Macs in Education > Subject: [Maced] Installing Remote desktop Client > > Hi Everybody > When I am making an image from scratch what is the procedure for installing the client software? > It appears that all I have done is installed Remote Desktop. > > > Thanks Jim > fatalbert at exemail.com.au > > > ********************************************************************** > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > privileged information or confidential information or both. If you > are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Thanks Jim fatalbert at exemail.com.au ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From matt at skoss.org Tue Sep 20 22:13:34 2011 From: matt at skoss.org (Matt Skoss) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:43:34 +0930 Subject: [Maced] Screen capture app on iPads (vis-a-vis Screen Recording via QuickTime or Jing) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm on the hunt for an app to capture what is happening on an iPad screen as well as a learner's voice, regardless of the app being used. Screen Chomp and Show Me are fine, but only work inside themselves. Hoping someone can point me towards a killer app that will do what I want. Regards, Matt. 0418-624 631 From rhysted at mac.com Tue Sep 20 22:40:37 2011 From: rhysted at mac.com (Rod Hysted) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:40:37 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen capture app on iPads (vis-a-vis Screen Recording via QuickTime or Jing) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Matt, My understanding of multitasking on the iPad would suggest that it isn't possible at the moment. Regards Rod Sent from Rod's iPhone 3GS On 20/09/2011, at 10:13 PM, Matt Skoss wrote: > I'm on the hunt for an app to capture what is happening on an iPad screen as well as a learner's voice, regardless of the app being used. > > Screen Chomp and Show Me are fine, but only work inside themselves. > > Hoping someone can point me towards a killer app that will do what I want. > > Regards, Matt. > 0418-624 631 > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From bryn.jones99 at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 22:44:25 2011 From: bryn.jones99 at gmail.com (Bryn Jones) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:44:25 +0800 Subject: [Maced] Screen capture app on iPads (vis-a-vis Screen Recording via QuickTime or Jing) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can buy an external plug in box. Not sure what it's called. Don't think there is any other way. Regards Bryn On 20/09/2011, at 8:13 PM, Matt Skoss wrote: > I'm on the hunt for an app to capture what is happening on an iPad screen as well as a learner's voice, regardless of the app being used. > > Screen Chomp and Show Me are fine, but only work inside themselves. > > Hoping someone can point me towards a killer app that will do what I want. > > Regards, Matt. > 0418-624 631 > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From martin at levins.net Wed Sep 21 09:30:56 2011 From: martin at levins.net (Martin Levins) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:30:56 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Screen capture app on iPads (vis-a-vis Screen Recording via QuickTime or Jing) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not sure what you want to use this for, but I've had success with a vid camera connected to the iPad with the HDMI connection dongle. Press record on the camera, ensuring the mike is local HTH Martin On 20/09/2011, at 10:13 PM, Matt Skoss wrote: > I'm on the hunt for an app to capture what is happening on an iPad screen as well as a learner's voice, regardless of the app being used. > > Screen Chomp and Show Me are fine, but only work inside themselves. > > Hoping someone can point me towards a killer app that will do what I want. > > Regards, Matt. > 0418-624 631 > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From mlevins at as.edu.au Wed Sep 21 11:30:13 2011 From: mlevins at as.edu.au (Martin Levins) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:30:13 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Windows 8 on Virtual box Message-ID: <4CE0BD51-05D5-458F-93B6-CD7859A9A0C2@as.edu.au> Working well Startup time (from cold) = 10 seconds. Eek! This on a Lion SSD Macbook pro with 8GB RAM, 4GB devoted to the Win OS Cheers Martin ______________________________________ Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins Do you get more than 10 emails a day? Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce ________________________________________________________________________ From wicked_wes at mac.com Wed Sep 21 11:35:51 2011 From: wicked_wes at mac.com (Wes Warner) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:35:51 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Windows 8 on Virtual box In-Reply-To: <4CE0BD51-05D5-458F-93B6-CD7859A9A0C2@as.edu.au> References: <4CE0BD51-05D5-458F-93B6-CD7859A9A0C2@as.edu.au> Message-ID: Wow - that's quick Wes Warner ? Distinguished Educator, Class of 2006 Head of Technology Genesis Christian College @I_Teach_ICT Sent from my iPhone On 21/09/2011, at 11:30 AM, Martin Levins wrote: > Working well > > Startup time (from cold) = 10 seconds. Eek! > > This on a Lion SSD Macbook pro with 8GB RAM, 4GB devoted to the Win OS > > Cheers > Martin > > ______________________________________ > Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology > The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia > > +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins > > Do you get more than 10 emails a day? > Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. > Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From mlevins at as.edu.au Sat Sep 24 14:53:03 2011 From: mlevins at as.edu.au (Martin Levins) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:53:03 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Best IWB for Japanese teaching? Message-ID: <0EBD9A75-0387-482D-A680-A81ECB0E94A3@as.edu.au> Hi all Needing some advice. We have Promethean boards in our school but our Jap teacher wants a Smartboard My feeling is that we should stay with the one brand where possible, simply to make the imaging/training easier. I also believe that Prom boards are more robust and that Smartboard learning objects/stuff made on Smartboard will run in ActiveInspire anyway. Before I get to be a nazi and say, "no, we're getting promethean" I want to know if this will genuinely affect his teaching (getting Sboard instead of prom) Any experience out there? Cheers Martin ______________________________________ Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins Do you get more than 10 emails a day? Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce ________________________________________________________________________ From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 15:19:11 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:19:11 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Best IWB for Japanese teaching? In-Reply-To: <0EBD9A75-0387-482D-A680-A81ECB0E94A3@as.edu.au> References: <0EBD9A75-0387-482D-A680-A81ECB0E94A3@as.edu.au> Message-ID: What a projector and no whiteboard? Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2011, at 2:53 PM, Martin Levins wrote: > Hi all > > Needing some advice. > > We have Promethean boards in our school but our Jap teacher wants a Smartboard > > My feeling is that we should stay with the one brand where possible, simply to make the imaging/training easier. I also believe that Prom boards are more robust and that Smartboard learning objects/stuff made on Smartboard will run in ActiveInspire anyway. > > Before I get to be a nazi and say, "no, we're getting promethean" I want to know if this will genuinely affect his teaching (getting Sboard instead of prom) > > Any experience out there? > > Cheers > Martin > > ______________________________________ > Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology > The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia > > +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins > > Do you get more than 10 emails a day? > Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. > Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From kel at edugator.net.au Sat Sep 24 18:39:20 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:39:20 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Best IWB for Japanese teaching? In-Reply-To: <0EBD9A75-0387-482D-A680-A81ECB0E94A3@as.edu.au> References: <0EBD9A75-0387-482D-A680-A81ECB0E94A3@as.edu.au> Message-ID: <20110924183920.353570a4ry9gc800@webmail.netregistry.net> I was recently showing a group of teachers how good ActivInspire on the Promethean board is at text recognition - turning handwriting into text. A Japanese teacher in the audience asked if that worked with Japanese characters? I didn't know so we tried it. It took about 30 seconds to go into ActivInspire's settings and flip the language to Japanese. The teacher then started drawing characters on the board and the character conversion was correct each time. We were all quite amazed at the level of accuracy. Not sure if a Smartboard does that. If he wants a Smartboard because that's what he used at his last school then that's not a great reason - you are correct that Smart files can be converted over. Is this the old I don't want to change my ways argument? Would it genuinely affect his teaching? Probably not affect his alone but he would be alone as it would definitely affect his ability to share with his colleagues. Another consideration is that the board is a school resource. Does it need to be used by other staff? It also locks him into always being in that space. Also what if you do cater to his wish and go to the expense of setting him up with the only Smartboard in the school, then he gets a better off and leaves the school and TAS is stuck with an expensive white elephant - this is important because a resource like this should have a long useful life. In the case of IWBs it just makes sense to have the same throughout the school. Kel Quoting Martin Levins : > Hi all > > Needing some advice. > > We have Promethean boards in our school but our Jap teacher wants a > Smartboard > > My feeling is that we should stay with the one brand where possible, > simply to make the imaging/training easier. I also believe that Prom > boards are more robust and that Smartboard learning objects/stuff > made on Smartboard will run in ActiveInspire anyway. > > Before I get to be a nazi and say, "no, we're getting promethean" I > want to know if this will genuinely affect his teaching (getting > Sboard instead of prom) > > Any experience out there? > > Cheers > Martin > > ______________________________________ > Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology > The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia > > +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins > - twitter.com/martinlevins > > Do you get more than 10 emails a day? > Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 > reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere > each year. > Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > From ashbyjj at gmail.com Sat Sep 24 19:15:39 2011 From: ashbyjj at gmail.com (Ashby Jenny) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:15:39 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Best IWB for Japanese teaching? In-Reply-To: <20110924183920.353570a4ry9gc800@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <0EBD9A75-0387-482D-A680-A81ECB0E94A3@as.edu.au> <20110924183920.353570a4ry9gc800@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <676BE9DD-43BD-4CA3-8EB3-2A0319860EFC@gmail.com> Great response Kel. All my thoughts also. Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2011, at 6:39 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > I was recently showing a group of teachers how good ActivInspire on the Promethean board is at text recognition - turning handwriting into text. > > A Japanese teacher in the audience asked if that worked with Japanese characters? > > I didn't know so we tried it. > > It took about 30 seconds to go into ActivInspire's settings and flip the language to Japanese. The teacher then started drawing characters on the board and the character conversion was correct each time. We were all quite amazed at the level of accuracy. > > Not sure if a Smartboard does that. > > If he wants a Smartboard because that's what he used at his last school then that's not a great reason - you are correct that Smart files can be converted over. Is this the old I don't want to change my ways argument? > > Would it genuinely affect his teaching? Probably not affect his alone but he would be alone as it would definitely affect his ability to share with his colleagues. > > Another consideration is that the board is a school resource. Does it need to be used by other staff? It also locks him into always being in that space. > > Also what if you do cater to his wish and go to the expense of setting him up with the only Smartboard in the school, then he gets a better off and leaves the school and TAS is stuck with an expensive white elephant - this is important because a resource like this should have a long useful life. > > In the case of IWBs it just makes sense to have the same throughout the school. > > > Kel > > > Quoting Martin Levins : > >> Hi all >> >> Needing some advice. >> >> We have Promethean boards in our school but our Jap teacher wants a Smartboard >> >> My feeling is that we should stay with the one brand where possible, simply to make the imaging/training easier. I also believe that Prom boards are more robust and that Smartboard learning objects/stuff made on Smartboard will run in ActiveInspire anyway. >> >> Before I get to be a nazi and say, "no, we're getting promethean" I want to know if this will genuinely affect his teaching (getting Sboard instead of prom) >> >> Any experience out there? >> >> Cheers >> Martin >> >> ______________________________________ >> Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology >> The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia >> >> +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins >> >> Do you get more than 10 emails a day? >> Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. >> Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 01:40:42 2011 From: 3stonesintripoli at gmail.com (Mark Stone) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:40:42 +0400 Subject: [Maced] Sync carts for iPad Message-ID: Hi Everyone I have a question about sync carts for iPad. I am told that you can't buy a sync cart that will accommodate an iPad with a cover on it. Is this true?? So if I have 60 iPads, I have to take the cover off of everyone of them before I can recharge/sync? Is there a work around? Looking forward to some response. I just don't believe this is true ?! Mark Mark Stone ICT Learning Coach GEMS Royal Dubai School PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411 Email: m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com Website: http://www.royaldubaischool.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds Blog: http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The slots are (2 x 24 x 30 cm) (W x H x D) Cheers, James Mugg | Education Account Manager - Victoria | MAC1 Melbourne E jmugg at mac1.com.au M 0411 330 573 MAC1 Melbourne | Apple Premium Reseller T 03 9882 2450 | F 03 9882 2690 W mac1.com.au A Shop 4, 555 Riversdale Rd Camberwell Vic 3124 Melbourne Hours | Open 6 days M-F 8:30am-5:30pm | Sat 9:00am-4:00pm ABN: 53 136 849 584 On 26/09/2011, at 1:40 AM, Mark Stone wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I have a question about sync carts for iPad. I am told that you can't buy a sync cart that will accommodate an iPad with a cover on it. Is this true?? So if I have 60 iPads, I have to take the cover off of everyone of them before I can recharge/sync? Is there a work around? > > Looking forward to some response. I just don't believe this is true ?! > > Mark > > Mark Stone > ICT Learning Coach > > GEMS Royal Dubai School > PO Box 121310, Dubai, U.A.E > Tel +971 4 2886499, Fax +971 4 2886490, Mob +971567595411 > Email: m.stone_rds at gemsedu.com > Website: http://www.royaldubaischool.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gemsrds > Blog: http://rdsappletech.blogspot.com > > GEMS Royal Dubai School provides the very best of British education, FS1 -Year 6, in the Mirdif area of Dubai. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Michael Simshauser Connected Classrooms (New England) Sent from my iPhone On 24/09/2011, at 2:53 PM, "Martin Levins" wrote: > Hi all > > Needing some advice. > > We have Promethean boards in our school but our Jap teacher wants a Smartboard > > My feeling is that we should stay with the one brand where possible, simply to make the imaging/training easier. I also believe that Prom boards are more robust and that Smartboard learning objects/stuff made on Smartboard will run in ActiveInspire anyway. > > Before I get to be a nazi and say, "no, we're getting promethean" I want to know if this will genuinely affect his teaching (getting Sboard instead of prom) > > Any experience out there? > > Cheers > Martin > > ______________________________________ > Martin Levins, Director of Information Technology > The Armidale School (TAS), Locked Bag 3003, Armidale 2350, Australia > > +61 4 2910 7806 - martin.levins at mac.com - facebook.com/martin.levins - twitter.com/martinlevins > > Do you get more than 10 emails a day? > Before you print them, please consider that this will require 7 reams of paper or 42% of a tree and put 38kg CO2 into the atmosphere each year. > Additionally, this amount of paper will need over 1200L of water to produce > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From matthewd at stessendon.catholic.edu.au Mon Sep 26 11:06:50 2011 From: matthewd at stessendon.catholic.edu.au (Matthew Davey) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:06:50 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Maced] Sync carts for iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61531.202.153.70.27.1316999210.squirrel@stessendon.catholic.edu.au> Hi Mark, We're considering another Bretford product, their Bretford PowerSync Tray for iPad. http://apple.bretford.com/products/powersynctrayforipad Can handle 10 iPads, lockable, and provided the iPad cover is not too thick, it should accommodate them with a cover on (slot is 2cm). Cheers! Regards, Matthew Davey Deputy Principal ICT Co-ordinator St Therese's School, Essendon http://stessendon.catholic.edu.au -- This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail and all copies. The School does not guarantee that this e-mail is virus or error free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The content and opinions in this e-mail are not necessarily those of the School. From mrwheadon at mac.com Mon Sep 26 15:25:17 2011 From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:25:17 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Sync carts for iPad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F761EDA-E4F2-4750-AA54-5BAC67711A29@mac.com> We have the Bretford cart with 30 iPads, using the STM Skinny cover (covers front and back). They fit fine, no need to remove covers. Mike On 26/09/2011, at 1:40 AM, Mark Stone <3stonesintripoli at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I have a question about sync carts for iPad. I am told that you can't buy a sync cart that will accommodate an iPad with a cover on it. Is this true?? So if I have 60 iPads, I have to take the cover off of everyone of them before I can recharge/sync? Is there a work around? > > Looking forward to some response. 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Meeting with a teacher last week when the conversation drifted to iPads. After giving a brief exaltation of their capabilities came the crunch question: T: How much are they? Me: Only around $500 each T: I can't justify spending that much. We just refitted our whole school with refurbished Dells for only $250 each. Apparently not all the dinosaurs died . . . From rblit at iinet.net.au Wed Sep 28 18:51:18 2011 From: rblit at iinet.net.au (Rod Blitvich) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:51:18 +0800 Subject: [Maced] Used Macbook prices? Message-ID: <906E906C-6388-422E-A3F3-48A64CBE4C1F@iinet.net.au> Hi Guys I have to buy back some student laptops Using this site: http://www.mac2sell.net/index.au.php i came up with $380 and $440 for macbook core 2 duo, 13inch, 2.1 and 2.4ghz, 2 gb ram, 220 hd they are around 18 months to 2 yrs old. Is that a bit cheap or fair prices? your advice appreciated please. ta Blitto Rod Blitvich - Amy & Sam?s Dad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0409 681 256 rblit at iinet.net.au http://web.me.com/blitto I haven't lost my mind...... .......it's backed up on disk somewhere! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1082 bytes Desc: not available URL: From GEOFFREY.WALES at det.nsw.edu.au Wed Sep 28 20:43:48 2011 From: GEOFFREY.WALES at det.nsw.edu.au (Wales, Geoffrey) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:43:48 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Macbook Pro RAM available In-Reply-To: <002e01cc7d96$500987b0$f01c9710$@gmail.com> References: <002e01cc7d96$500987b0$f01c9710$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I could use it Ellen. If you give me your account details I can give you my address. Thanks, Geoff Wales ________________________________________ From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ellen Sheerin [esheerin at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 2:22 PM To: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] Macbook Pro RAM available I have just updated my Macbook Pro (purchased earlier this year) by replacing the RAM. I have 2 x 2GB RAM- the original from the machine - if anyone can use it. Happy to supply for postage costs. Ellen (Central Coast NSW) ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** From esheerin at gmail.com Wed Sep 28 23:30:11 2011 From: esheerin at gmail.com (Ellen Sheerin) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:30:11 +1000 Subject: [Maced] Macbook Pro RAM available In-Reply-To: References: <002e01cc7d96$500987b0$f01c9710$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009b01cc7de2$c21f64e0$465e2ea0$@gmail.com> Sorry - gone already Forgot to put it on the list - my apologies Ellen -----Original Message----- From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [mailto:maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Wales, Geoffrey Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 8:44 PM To: maced at zeus.as.edu.au Subject: Re: [Maced] Macbook Pro RAM available I could use it Ellen. If you give me your account details I can give you my address. Thanks, Geoff Wales ________________________________________ From: maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au [maced-bounces at zeus.as.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ellen Sheerin [esheerin at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 2:22 PM To: Macs in Education Subject: [Maced] Macbook Pro RAM available I have just updated my Macbook Pro (purchased earlier this year) by replacing the RAM. I have 2 x 2GB RAM- the original from the machine - if anyone can use it. Happy to supply for postage costs. Ellen (Central Coast NSW) ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From kel at edugator.net.au Fri Sep 30 16:40:36 2011 From: kel at edugator.net.au (kel at edugator.net.au) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:40:36 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad resource collaboration In-Reply-To: <1316123250.52270.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> <1316123250.52270.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110930164036.16174400wkgiv6g4@webmail.netregistry.net> I am getting asked a lot about iPads and their suitability for schools so I thought I'd put together a resource to share what I know and find out. ipadcentral.wikispaces.com rather than try to know everything, which I don't, I did it as a wiki so that other people could become part of the process. If you have iPad knowledge/experience to share and would like to have edit rights to collaborate in this wiki, let me know and I will happily welcome you on board. It would be really great to have someone maintain a page on technical aspects, use at a particular grade level, in a particular curriculum area or anything else you wish. Would really like some high school input as well. If you don't want to go to that level but have a blog or school site with iPad info I'd love to be able to link to that. Some of our Victorian colleagues had good blogs on the trial down there but my links to your blogs no longer seem to work? Would like to update those links if possible? Looking forward to your replies Let's share the knowledge . . . Cheers Kel From mrwheadon at mac.com Fri Sep 30 21:07:53 2011 From: mrwheadon at mac.com (Mike Wheadon) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:07:53 +1000 Subject: [Maced] iPad resource collaboration In-Reply-To: <20110930164036.16174400wkgiv6g4@webmail.netregistry.net> References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> <1316123250.52270.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110930164036.16174400wkgiv6g4@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the idea Kel, happy to contribute when I get back... Mike On 30/09/2011, at 4:40 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > I am getting asked a lot about iPads and their suitability for schools so I thought I'd put together a resource to share what I know and find out. > > ipadcentral.wikispaces.com > > rather than try to know everything, which I don't, I did it as a wiki so that other people could become part of the process. If you have iPad knowledge/experience to share and would like to have edit rights to collaborate in this wiki, let me know and I will happily welcome you on board. It would be really great to have someone maintain a page on technical aspects, use at a particular grade level, in a particular curriculum area or anything else you wish. Would really like some high school input as well. > > If you don't want to go to that level but have a blog or school site with iPad info I'd love to be able to link to that. > > Some of our Victorian colleagues had good blogs on the trial down there but my links to your blogs no longer seem to work? Would like to update those links if possible? > > Looking forward to your replies > > Let's share the knowledge . . . > > Cheers > > Kel > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced Mike Wheadon mrwheadon at mac.com From bryn.jones99 at gmail.com Fri Sep 30 21:43:37 2011 From: bryn.jones99 at gmail.com (Bryn Jones) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:43:37 +0800 Subject: [Maced] iPad resource collaboration In-Reply-To: References: <473DDFCB-330F-4666-B648-C085C2D87288@mac.com> <20110915222428.15016bu8la72cn8k@webmail.netregistry.net> <1316123250.52270.YahooMailNeo@web112601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110930164036.16174400wkgiv6g4@webmail.netregistry.net> Message-ID: <3A803CDC-BCD1-405D-A342-B4C91D460C13@gmail.com> Kolbe College already have a great Wiki on this based on experience in 3 schools. Not sure if it's public. I'll find a link. Regards Bryn On 30/09/2011, at 7:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote: > Thanks for the idea Kel, happy to contribute when I get back... > Mike > On 30/09/2011, at 4:40 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > >> I am getting asked a lot about iPads and their suitability for schools so I thought I'd put together a resource to share what I know and find out. >> >> ipadcentral.wikispaces.com >> >> rather than try to know everything, which I don't, I did it as a wiki so that other people could become part of the process. If you have iPad knowledge/experience to share and would like to have edit rights to collaborate in this wiki, let me know and I will happily welcome you on board. It would be really great to have someone maintain a page on technical aspects, use at a particular grade level, in a particular curriculum area or anything else you wish. Would really like some high school input as well. >> >> If you don't want to go to that level but have a blog or school site with iPad info I'd love to be able to link to that. >> >> Some of our Victorian colleagues had good blogs on the trial down there but my links to your blogs no longer seem to work? Would like to update those links if possible? >> >> Looking forward to your replies >> >> Let's share the knowledge . . . >> >> Cheers >> >> Kel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > Mike Wheadon > mrwheadon at mac.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced From tyrrell.bradley at me.com Fri Sep 30 21:50:44 2011 From: tyrrell.bradley at me.com (Bradley Tyrrell) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:50:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Maced] iPad resource collaboration In-Reply-To: <3A803CDC-BCD1-405D-A342-B4C91D460C13@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a07833b-4465-4a44-f254-f27036b59d7f@me.com> Hey all, and the link is very much public,? I updated it today with the start of the student examples of work, many more to follow in the next few weeks as well as the updated survey results. 10 Weeks into a Trial deployment of about 200 iPads and results are looking positive to the program in the future.? Digital Citizenship information will be added after ECAWA conference this week. If you need any other info easiest way is over AIM or email http://sswiki.kolbe.wa.edu.au/groups/ipadstory/ Regards Bradley Tyrrell Head of Digital Technology Kolbe Catholic College Rockingham WA iChat: tyrrell.bradley at me.com www.tyrrell.net.au On 30 Sep, 2011,at 07:43 PM, Bryn Jones wrote: Kolbe College already have a great Wiki on this based on experience in 3 schools. Not sure if it's public. I'll find a link. Regards Bryn On 30/09/2011, at 7:07 PM, Mike Wheadon wrote: > Thanks for the idea Kel, happy to contribute when I get back... > Mike > On 30/09/2011, at 4:40 PM, kel at edugator.net.au wrote: > >> I am getting asked a lot about iPads and their suitability for schools so I thought I'd put together a resource to share what I know and find out. >> >> ipadcentral.wikispaces.com >> >> rather than try to know everything, which I don't, I did it as a wiki so that other people could become part of the process. If you have iPad knowledge/experience to share and would like to have edit rights to collaborate in this wiki, let me know and I will happily welcome you on board. It would be really great to have someone maintain a page on technical aspects, use at a particular grade level, in a particular curriculum area or anything else you wish. Would really like some high school input as well. >> >> If you don't want to go to that level but have a blog or school site with iPad info I'd love to be able to link to that. >> >> Some of our Victorian colleagues had good blogs on the trial down there but my links to your blogs no longer seem to work? Would like to update those links if possible? >> >> Looking forward to your replies >> >> Let's share the knowledge . . . >> >> Cheers >> >> Kel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maced mailing list >> Maced at zeus.as.edu.au >> http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced > > Mike Wheadon > mrwheadon at mac.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maced mailing list > Maced at zeus.as.edu.au > http://zeus.as.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced _______________________________________________ Maced mailing list Maced at zeus.as.edu.au http://zeusas.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/maced -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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